nothing to do with DT but wtf

https://youtu.be/dEYEn_fpv-4

@CYBER-NINJA check out the gambling police here @Calum

well hi my names terry got a dt 125r month ago not in the best shape as normal i suppose been looking around on here since then thought its about time i stopped stalking and start participating il put some pics up in about 20min or so its my second bike so im kind of new to bikes first being aprilia rs 125 looking forward to getting this one on the road now and have some more good times pease out till i taken some photos

@declan braided brake lines and paint the calipers

but the choke is not and you are putting more fuel in from the choke I don't know just saying its possible and when your at mid revs the choke might not give either fuel also and from my understanding, they lean out mid revs before getting rich again so could be a problem just what I would be thinking about if it was me I mean I would try what he has done, to be honest, but I would be like to fix it asap

@Calum chinesium snap-on then

RS 125R FP

DT 125 R

so basically I was just going out for a midnight blast as we so stupidly do from time to time got a bit too happy on the gas while on a country road with sharp bends started setting up for the corner too late so tryed to brake while leaning right into the corner which pat on the back i think I did well felt the nobbly's and realised I was not going to make it so I picked the bike back up with brake and then let go and accepted it the bike just I think has gone up on its front and fell sideways hardly any damage twisted folks broke leaver indicator shrubs in my tyre bead like how does that even happen ??? ??? not checked for buckles yet all panels are good amazingly bit or damage to clocks and a loose wire or to I think so lucky as hell I was catapulted off as the bike hit the ditch gone flying landed into a roll 2x not even a scratch on my helmet don't think I even have any bruises but all my right side is achy and all my arm and hand is swollen no broken bones been checked so considering the speed and the location I am extremely lucky and I personally as much as I should not have been in the situation I think I handled it the best way possible it could have been so much worse as I have now gear at the moment no jacket or anything jeans and hoodie is all

stumbled across

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jBnSSCwyFk

@ninja said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSYbAi-TGo

this one is a crap comparison the RS with no rave valve feels like it has no balls till its going I like the DT pinned but the RS pinned nooo way its crap

to be honest there all 125's chuck a can of beans down your throat and fart to the finish if your after speed and acceleration get a bigger bike I personally am not a fan of picking a bike based on numbers especially when there only gonna be like 2 mph difference it's not about what the bike can do its what you can do

So as titled really had the bike a few months not done anything to it not even start it apart from change levers and new battery this will be my daily ride when it passes its MOT this will be a slow project and ideally, I will get another alternative ride in the future

agree with @CYBER-NINJA and unfortunately, nothing really is safe these days be it online or off

there is a place in the market for chinesieum stuff but personally, it's not in the DT market
I'm glad it's not a 2 stroke or it would have probably been the same block and then there would be nothing but cheap sh!t in bikes sold and repaired by chavs even people that like DT's would do it just to save £££ and save time looking for genuine parts

@finnerz89 there ok just no reliable at all like you probably have your bike running sweet were as mines, not that sweet running and I restricted it which made it more oily so I mean if your all done tinkering there ok but for the extra price for the not so noticeable performance gain you might as well burn your money and set off early for everything in case you need to change a plug very slightly exaggerated

hope they don't last long

@louis-james made from chinesium so if they fit there still not going anywhere near mine

I was and maybe will return to one-day pc gaming and I agree pc is superior it's physically impossible for consoles to compete and that consoles have destroyed the scene and the games
I remember struggling with levels for like half a day + yes its frustrating but when you finish the feeling of accomplishment is better than completing every ps4 game made
games get easier so more people play and unfortunately pc games are following even counter-strike is getting noob friendly I see consoles like I see apple there both noob user-friendly, stylish and very restrictive so lock their consumers to them and make then brand bash but I will say pc creatures need to make all features from consoles available like split screen and stuff so its more friend friendly
and yes games are so cheaper and mods are awesome
I just felt the need to say all this

and I hope you don't have any problems too but I don't think the difference will be that noticeable but at the same time hell ye i can feel a difference in fuel stations not as much with this bike tho but I will say in a Stihl or chain saw you put in Tessco fuel it feels like its gonna seize same as my old rs on asda at the end of the day its cheap for a reason get what you pay for

@ukchad head is easy best done with a torque wrench thou if you're willing to buy one

hahaha i payed £££ was sweet till i got home pinned the valve and went blasting about now rings gone but tbh i don't thing compression is a thing to be bothered about its a 2 stroke so it needs a top end at some point at least you will know the condition of the engine before you start tarting it up if you know what i mean correct me if I'm wrong here guys but i think the money is really on that bottom end and how many monkeys with spanners have been at it

haha ye i think so too don't think i could or would have picked better but i suppose that's each to their own il put a pic of rs up to why not

@Calum "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again, only this time more wisely." Henry Ford

its never going to work out

wecome @Sgt-Robuck-5

Silkolene no complaints but I'm switching to Castrol

https://youtu.be/3W5774g1GTs

@declan naa it not staying original well I don't no time will tell I suppose and ye I think it is the gasket tho seems a bit too smokey as for rebuild etc as much as I should do it I need it on the road asap for a few weeks then I can start tidying it up so unfortunately I don't have a choice little things are going to be first

just showing the drops of oil looks like both 2 stroke and bottom end oil ill give it a good clean in a day or two and try locate the leak looks like its from gear shaft

needs drilling and taping although cable ties doing a great job

if i had a welder then i could of just run a bead on the back as it have nasty stretch fractures on the bend might ask a local garage

seems a bit oily to me

wet blasting is the same as dry in a sense it wet the abrasive as it leaves the hogger softens the abrasive so it don't go deep which can be a problem softer metals and (plastics) and will remove oils, grease, dust ect at the same time, to be honest, i think it's only used for parts ect because chambers are easier to clean

you deserve it i been from top to bottom of this thread i wish i could of done the same on the other forum to really see all the work you put in

awesome enough said

@calum she is becoming a beauty

45+ no chance best I saw online is 45 bhp by some crazy guy with no sense and too much money he was from Italy I think I can't find any info on it anymore shame not that anyone would do the same unless they were rich and enjoyed rebuilding it daily

but people get 28 bhp all the time 35 has been reached by many

she looks a stunner in bits beautiful bikes swing arms are a piece of art thank god you didn't follow the crowd and polished it I found that Continentals Conti Attack 2 feel better on rs duo to the bike being so light the angle helps in corners and there great in the wet to maybe give them a go on your next set

looking forward to seeing progress

@calum I would have to buy a pipe anyways mines knackered

glad to see your ok but you did say you wanted some cosmetic upgrade ideas

@darty my bad
@Calum I need to do some carriageway but can't imagine it being a comfortable bike for it il soon find out I guess

don't need spokes to test if the bikes a runner

I would just change it if it pops while on road then good luck and if it pops offroad might be looking for a new wheel

@declan

glad to see it coming on well there @declan what leavers did you get in the end look good them

@vtrn_raptor yes it can cause problems
and it is another throttle stage for more fuel ie 1/2 to 3/4 throttle and

@finnerz89 yes he is bad at describing lol but it seems that way

@vtrn_raptor I can't see the picture very well but yes that looks like a plug from too much fuel wet

@calum the bike runs sounds like he been playing with it so it not chewing itself to bits on the inside considering he been redlining on a stand so the bike should be an easy fix in my opinion 2.5k tho @vtrn_raptor I could buy a few dt125r's for that just make a new thread call it the 2.5k black hole and start from scratch give us the bike details in the description ie year, model and any mods don't focus on a symptom yet just get some pics up

@vtrn_raptor can you not take pictures and videos this all seems vague

@ricky0115 I feel for you hope its returned @oldman that sounds like a good idea I like to set traps from time to time as I look forward to catching a scambag in the wild I almost got one the other week but he got away there about 3 bikes recovered a week in just one town near me at the moment there every were I'm constantly watched followed asked to race etc

@ninja stick to your day job

I'm no expert @declan just tinkering so I wouldn't like to say but don't see why you cant get a smaller pilot jet

that's just not gonna happen though unless your a professional 2 stroke tuner or a racing team with money to waste

@Calum a guy I watch on youtube put a video up yesterday and I also been doing my jetting as you know so I thought I would come have a look what was put for re-jetting on here think you could add about plug chopping as there more reliable and simplify the procedure

my problem was jetting now rev cleaner through all gears I just lost my head as the problem started a few days before new pipe must have been the old pipe getting too bad stupid of me changed jetting now on a 250 main still not were I want her to be the needle is a bit rich just waiting on a few jets arriving

thanks bud

and anyone know where I can get the front gasket from for the carb

where is to buy main jets from don't want China specials

@Calum really your thinking about the photo's that's not what would be on my mind, to be honest don't think I would get off it long enough to take a photo lol

@calum this is going to be a very nice rs

@calum fair enough

@calum wow 210 to a 280 that's some big jump how did the performance change

@declan just see what you plug says

@calum ye me to but it's hanging a bit too much but I'm going to wait to see what the plugs like in a few days and try to solve my other problem first

any suggestions I'm still having problems with what I thought was full throttle when I'm in 5 gear it bogs seems to be any throttle now before I cleaned the carb it was funny in all gears and 3/4 plus throttle I no there very different symptoms but I'm very sure its the same problem

@calum bare in mind its a used plug pretty new though and was in a bit ricker state mainly wide open hangs I tad in the middle think I might be a tad rich on the needle or the taper's not that great

nice ride

mine was never reported to insurance and was classed as stolen recovered so I don't know

so basically it was miss placed for 3 year @Mightyman does that mean it won't be classed as stolen recovered

you could redo it and when you do put more foam in to make it higher at the front personally I think the seats fine I wouldn't change its just the DT's character

hmm that sounds like a fun bike for 125

@calum that's why I'm asking

30hp just derestricted really is there much exaggeration there @scrimsmustang if not would love to see what a tuned one would get

thanks @Calum

@calum I know you are and doing a great job too but will come in handy beforehand as when my pipe arrives hopefully not long now I most likely need to rejet perfect time to strip and clean and replace bits on the carb

@calum hmmm could you please email me it also as it may come in handy when I strip the carb again to clean and replace parts

welcome dude

@BraDT ye uphills are sketchy as f!ck

not a very smart way to have your helmet on a snowy day its all about the fun

my bad don't know why I thought that to be honest

why would you need a bigger tube for methanol doesn't it have a lower ratio

@declan should spray something down there every now and then I won't happen then bud

its never going to work out

@irongamer727 thanks, i been talking to the guy £310 ish he charging me

just looking to find some purple bars

@vtrn_raptor I'm set on getting the Romeu Henriques know got it in my listing ready with a few other bits

so guys how much Romeu Henriques gonna set me back I don't think I seen a better option

@Yegor if your Spanish don't bother reading that old notebook crap it got everything you need to know but badly rote and explain get something in your native tongue

@calum am not about a single journey if I ride to Manchester and ride to work every day for 4 weeks before returning and the chain is 1/2 2/3 through its life sh!t could happen

@calum she is becoming a beauty

@calum it's more difficult to maintain your chain miles from home ok there is shops up and down the country but its the hassle

il probably do the upgrade come rebuild

@jens-eskildsen that's what I mean they're good for daily riders

don't matter now @declan just gonna get this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-DTR125-DT125R-1990-2003-Gold-Heavy-Duty-Chain-and-Sprocket-Kit-Set/400967711406?hash=item5d5b89baae:g:zjYAAOSwmrlUrVMn

so realistically you done it once as there normally a bit of stretch not long after fitting how many mile you done since putting it on

@declan could you give me some feedback on the chain and sprocket kit you got

@declan could do but I'm a sucker for shiny pipes

@calum I would have to buy a pipe anyways mines knackered

I do agree stock is normally quality but I would like one for a bit better performance and who don't like a shiny new pipe

and I'm not wanting underslung either as this bike when I have another will be going offroad

thanks, @Calum some people do swear by the performance but I'm not looking for something that's gonna rott I ride in all weather all year round so deps no good to me the price, not an issue I want quality

wash every time you use most probably

@calum agreed follow me so I can message you it came up with an error

45+ no chance best I saw online is 45 bhp by some crazy guy with no sense and too much money he was from Italy I think I can't find any info on it anymore shame not that anyone would do the same unless they were rich and enjoyed rebuilding it daily

but people get 28 bhp all the time 35 has been reached by many

she looks a stunner in bits beautiful bikes swing arms are a piece of art thank god you didn't follow the crowd and polished it I found that Continentals Conti Attack 2 feel better on rs duo to the bike being so light the angle helps in corners and there great in the wet to maybe give them a go on your next set

looking forward to seeing progress

happy new year everyone

@yegor said in Time to change wheels and ...:

http://www.2strokeengine.net/gordonjennings/twostroketunershandbook.php

I have read this and I would say read something else after reading it to put information in a better order for understanding

I was and maybe will return to one-day pc gaming and I agree pc is superior it's physically impossible for consoles to compete and that consoles have destroyed the scene and the games
I remember struggling with levels for like half a day + yes its frustrating but when you finish the feeling of accomplishment is better than completing every ps4 game made
games get easier so more people play and unfortunately pc games are following even counter-strike is getting noob friendly I see consoles like I see apple there both noob user-friendly, stylish and very restrictive so lock their consumers to them and make then brand bash but I will say pc creatures need to make all features from consoles available like split screen and stuff so its more friend friendly
and yes games are so cheaper and mods are awesome
I just felt the need to say all this

wecome @Sgt-Robuck-5

Merry Christmas everyone

I would just change it if it pops while on road then good luck and if it pops offroad might be looking for a new wheel

Silkolene good and Castrol good personally there probably no difference between 99% of them but I would rather be safe than sorry

castrol power 1 10w-30
good for me

welcome Peter @PJT95 sounds like you had a good childhood for sure

that's the reason they had another chance

@finnerz89 not the first time I heard this lol so i got it from www.sparkplugs.co.uk

@finnerz89 there ok just no reliable at all like you probably have your bike running sweet were as mines, not that sweet running and I restricted it which made it more oily so I mean if your all done tinkering there ok but for the extra price for the not so noticeable performance gain you might as well burn your money and set off early for everything in case you need to change a plug very slightly exaggerated

@terry-tz oh ye guys remember the thread about iridium plugs well I restricted my bike for a friend never ridden before and it went around the field and the plug was foiled tried cleaning multiple times like 5 - 10, in the end, i put the br10es in iridium plugs are sh!te I tried them one last time and it let me down that's the last time I ever use one again

@declan I'm not digging mate I would probably do the same I mean I been running mine with twisted bottom yoke from were I came off, br10 plug no br9's at the time, buckled front wheel and a few things holding together with cable ties and a few other bits and bobs just pointing out the risks of not fixing

@Calum agreed but the oil might still be an issue as the choke is not driven off the throttle and is supplying some fuel without the throttle ie no oil well low oil relative to fuel and it probably won't keep enough flow in the mid-range so low oil plus low fuel I would be riding with caution unless I was confident I was getting enough might not be much difference but I suppose it depends on what you use your bike for

but the choke is not and you are putting more fuel in from the choke I don't know just saying its possible and when your at mid revs the choke might not give either fuel also and from my understanding, they lean out mid revs before getting rich again so could be a problem just what I would be thinking about if it was me I mean I would try what he has done, to be honest, but I would be like to fix it asap

but won't this mean you have less 2 stroke oil going through they seem to send a fair bit but your changing the mix at all rev ranges so it might be rich at 1-3k but very lean at higher revs

@declan playing with fire

guy's slow down you all made some good points here but its a lot of opinions and the guys, not a DTR fanatic or bike mechanic so calm down personally I wouldn't do anything till I checked the coolant level as there could have been air in the system from changing the carb
next the plug to see if that shows me its lean
but if the bike is ticking over ok like it's not fluctuating revs that much but when revved a bit it takes awhile to return
or it climbs revs when ticking over then ye its most probably lean
and like @Calum said don't be riding it as you might not have a bike for long if you do

pictures and videos make it easier for people to see and hear the problem to help you so if you can get some up bud

so won't save much and there will be no servo control and kind of not plug and play I don't know just making the assumption

@scrimsmustang can't imagine them being cheap

@declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

i have the same problem but no desire to solve it yet

welcome @Spanners

wow hahahahahahaha
@declan it probably the same one for other motors so could pick one up for £5 ish maybe measure the thread and ask sellers ect don't worry about the connection that's easy fix you probably have some old connector around

it was probably just a way to save money I mean really you could make any bike not need one or car but it's more of a safety thing really

@declan have you thought about just making it smaller and moving it

I'm not participating in this debate

@declan no this is not true if you heat something it will expand

@declan ok I wrote that wrong really but what is it exactly are you asking

@Calum sounds good for sure

how rare are these bikes the more I see them I'm really taking a liking and looks like you had fun that day

@declan the main difference is probably just what they can put on the bottle rating and quality control sh!t so it's each to their own if I had an off road pitbike or something I wouldn't care what the f!ck went in it but if I'm on a busy dual carriageway I would like to know I have done what I can to not give my self a fucked up day

and I hope you don't have any problems too but I don't think the difference will be that noticeable but at the same time hell ye i can feel a difference in fuel stations not as much with this bike tho but I will say in a Stihl or chain saw you put in Tessco fuel it feels like its gonna seize same as my old rs on asda at the end of the day its cheap for a reason get what you pay for

@zrako your probably right in fact, it's probably more important in these smaller engines to use good 2 stroke ye we use to use Stihl chain and 2 stroke oil for the good saw other stuff just got any cheap engine and 2 stroke oil that's normally in garages ie carlube and shite

@declan I personally have been told to stay away from that stuff and have only used it in chain saws Stihl saws ect so I have no comment other than stay away

Silkolene no complaints but I'm switching to Castrol

I can't find the post, sorry but they were definitely pink ones

I saw some brand new ones on Facebook a few weeks ago il try to find them pink was definitely there

@oldman I didn't expect you to be on the side for chinesieum I'm all for cheap bikes and parts but just not for older bikes or cars for that matter I think it's an insult to their design and unfortunately, I don't believe for a second they will be around longer dou to them cheap things being sold I think it will just aid in the loss of these bikes I'm not saying there is no market or that you should not buy China parts just don't agree with the chinesieum insult to the DT get use to chavs asking if you wont to sell your bike for £500 and them think its a good price for your immaculate Yamaha DT125R

@declan hahaha

@declan haha I'm not bothered about PC's anymore

@declan fare enough

@calum I didn't pay much so nothing to grumble about

@declan you got out the garden with it

@terry-tz yours should be quicker with it having one unless its not working

@declan ye

@declan tbh tho it's not used to get to like 70mph am not sure but I would say I keep the bike about 8-9k and it pulls like a train at 7k so can't see that making much difference

@declan i only get 10k

@declan just keep it in the band dec so keep the revs above say 7k so when you change your still in the band

@calum I exaggerated a bit but ye there a hummm that came from mine till I put some foam where the side panels go

@calum ye there ok cases but vibrate their knackers off

@darty my bad
@Calum I need to do some carriageway but can't imagine it being a comfortable bike for it il soon find out I guess

@darty you have a 200 in yours to don't you

@declan ok you can have that one its all about the helmet for me

just get some pics up would be good when it's finished and you can look back at how it started life again 2nd time lucky

"To be a champion, I think you have to see the big picture. It's not about winning and losing; it's about every day hard work and about thriving on a challenge. It's about embracing the pain that you'll experience at the end of a race and not being afraid. I think people think too hard and get afraid of a certain challenge." Summer Sanders

@Calum “You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going.” Morgan Wootten

I could post quotes all day

@Calum "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again, only this time more wisely." Henry Ford

but some people like the feeling of hitting the band i.e the point where the power kicks in which is more violent when its pinned open but harder to ride kind of

but if you have a servo then 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and max speed of 80 because the valve opens wider as the engine need to breath more

@declan the gases need to escape faster the higher rpm for better power so if it's pinned open the bike is slower at low revs and faster at high revs for example and before anyone says any thing this is an (example) if it's pinned closed ie smaller exhaust port its 0-60 in 4 seconds with max speed of 65 and if it's pinned open 0-60 in 5 seconds max speed of 80

@declan how fast you replyed

wow your on the ball

glad to see your ok but you did say you wanted some cosmetic upgrade ideas

@declan braided brake lines and paint the calipers

cheesy grin right now laughing you got them

thank you @declan i hadn't seen them when i was looking

glad to see it coming on well there @declan what leavers did you get in the end look good them

nice build

I have no words other than thank you @Calum

look fun to much fun