Hi All,

I've recently purchased a restored Italian TDR from ebay which I must commend the previous owners guide dog on giving it his best shot, but man its a dog itself. Note to self don't bid on ebay at midnight...

I'm posting this from work so cant upload anything from here but in all honesty I'm too embarrassed to show anything until I'm at least ready to start rebuilding it from the ground up. Main issues (lol) at present include rough body kit, rusty forks / broken calliper mount and no YPVS servo. The bike did run (now in bits) but judging on the rest of the bike I'm not sure how 'rebuilt' its actually been so am reluctant to waste any money on it. My current plan is to drop a DT200R 3ET engine in as I'm off to France next month on holiday in my van if I can figure out their free-ads in Brittany.

Anyways if anyone has any TDR stuff let me know as I probably need it!

I'm also on the look out for a WR200 or DT200WR but wont get one from here as they are too highly sought after (ie expensive) but have owned a 200WR before along with numerous DT-R's and really regret selling the light and nimble 200 even if it did come with a moped size kickstart!!

Cheers - Ben

Meant to add that my original calliper was glued on with one of the mounts, so god only knows how it 'passed' its last MOT.

This will teach me not to bid on ebay late at night with the old "I'll never win that...."

Take it to a furniture shop and get them to do it for about twenty quid whilst you sit in the cafe / pub

Yes and I'll stick my neck on the line here and say the 3XP engine is better off staying in the superior WR chassis. If you can get hold of individual 3XP parts at a reasonable cost however it's worth doing.

@Big-Col tbh I'm looking forward to using the 200 more this year as the 1200 is good but the little wr is scruffy so it don't matter if it gets dropped off road. Got to laugh the Multistrada has an enduro setting - like that's going off road lol!

Both WR's are rare. The 250Z was made for quite a number of years but it was only iirc France and maybe Australia that got the road legal ones as seen in blue / yellow. The 200 in both guises, the WR was sold here along with the USA etc. The DT-WR version seems to have been an Asia only market bike.

Both are rare but in my own personal opinion the 200 is the best blend of reliability, power, suspension and looks you can get with a road going trail bike. I'd make the 250 into a mental supermoto

@andrewj1680 said in Hello All:

My rgv250 was a animal i find hard to believe a rs125 would come anywhere close to it

I've owned TL1000S, 996, Tuono 1000 etc so I know what animal bikes are like to ride

RS125 was just a really nice small capacity sportsbike that's what I was getting at. Obviously an RGV will be quicker, but sometimes there's more fun in maxing a tiddler

Only thing that looks wrong with the TDR compared to the DTR is how low the back end sits. I think that the shock is either shorter or the dog bones are different.

Bike looks great btw

Quality looks great - can't say I agree with the colour choice as I'm more of a black with added black kinda guy

Your project is like mine - restricted by cash flow or lack of.....

Ben

I hear you dude!

This year is getting the DT200WR onto the road (its scruffy) then over the winter doing a SM rebuild. Trouble is I've also got a TDR125 Belgarda I want to make a 200R and my 900 Monster in bits ready to build with lots of carbon and full Maxton suspension.

Next project is going to be a Suzuki SJ with replica Willys Jeep body mounted on top

Plastic / metal tank
Number plate holder and tail light
Ignition switch
Speedometer and idiot lights
Oil pump and tank
Passenger footpegs
Indicators
Silencer type

I think that the cylinder and carb might be tuned differently too

I think the word waying not weighing gives it away

Honda won't make another two stroke I'm certain of it

Ebay has had its day. They only want big volume sellers not the likes of you and I shifting unwanted spares any more as its too much hassle for them. Don't get me started on the fees either = total rip off

Totally agree. There are some real dogs in the £1000-£1700 range and also some gems in the £1500-£2200 region. There are also bikes around in the £2500 range in reasonable numbers but I wonder if they are just advertised and not actually selling.

The harsh reality is that most £2000 bikes are cheaper to buy overall when compared to that bargain £800 project - trouble is for most people you can 'find' £800 where-as £2000 is always a struggle.

I've owned so many DTR's, TDR's, DT-WR's and 125lc's over the years, and sold for what now seems like pennies I could cry

Indeed

Yes one of my old DTR's had the same thing many moons ago. Being 43 makes me forget I'm talking about stuff from 20 years ago...

Crazy to think my TDR is on a G plate and approx 1989 vintage. 2 years away from being 30

Are you fitting a rack to the red one? Personally I think it fills the gap created by the raised seat / mudguard and looks better than those YZ style replacement mudguards from Portugal.

Maybe but our servers block the avatars etc anyways so hard to say from here

Yes I can tell, especially with the XT / 200R mudguard with additional spoiler.

Cant see pics as they are blocked at work but from the video looks like you've done a very good job mate

@autovictor have you checked to see if the 230 Lanza tank is the same size as the 125? If not could be an easy upgrade in size.

@Calum said in Another New Guy:

@NINJA Stock pipe. The amount of weight saved by going aftermarket is probably where 90% of the noticeable power comes from I swear!

The FMF on my DT200WR is like a feather in comparison to the stock one which weighs a tonne!

Go after market every time

@NINJA yes better made than DEP too!

Shame its a nicer shape than stock but when / if I change something I like to upgrade a possibly save some weight.

Same colour as the one I had many years back.

Sad story about the theft though dude

@calum only because I was always waiting for the Suzuki power valves to drop into the cylinders and cause the engine to go pop

I must be getting old as i now like the original indicators over the naff mini ones which no other road users can see.

Looks like DT ones are the same as early TDR so that will make my search easier.

Black with added black is mine

Plenty of 200's in France - you just have to pop over and pick one up

That shed holds the 1990's so it must be big!!

Would love a TS200R but maybe not in those RM shellsuit colours

There are always old two strokes appearing on eBay down Romford way that have come across the channel so I'd expect to see more CRM's appearing.

My friend works for Leisure Trail and says the 250 parts are getting very hard to come by these days so the 125 is possibly the one to pick up and rebuild

The original Yamaha colours were miles better than the garish shell-suit ones which followed. That blue bike is / was stunning

True - had 2 Tuono's myself before my 996 and they are great fun and an easy way to lose your license

Worth it if that shock is rebuildable otherwise get a YSS one new as it's now so old it's probably worn out by now

Looks like the 41mm bit is based on the stanchion diameter so bear this in mind when assuming that WR200 USD forks will fit, they wont as the slider part on these is considerably larger than 41mm and wont fit in your yokes. Also FZR and YZF forks will be a lot shorter than DT ones

Think you need to undo the allen bolt at the bottom without the part inside spinning round. You may be lucky and get it undone if you leave the fork leg in one piece and apply pressure to compress it whilst simultaneously turning the bolt. If this doesn't work you have to either use the factory tool (rare & expensive) or trim down the end of a broom handle to fit inside the end of the damper rod and lock it in place whilst you undo the bolt. If you have an impact gun to hand this also might shock it loose.

These are either really easy or a total pig in my experience

Sparks and flames is all I'm going to say...

Think I've wrapped it in something then rolled around the perforated tube.

Years ago I used a tea towel for baffling when I was skint. Let's just say it didn't last long....

How hot is the bike running?

Might be a daft question but is it getting hot enough to show on the gauge. I seem to remember my previous DT-R's would run just under halfway on the gauge.

I'd look around for another set of clocks.

My DT200WR came with kmh clocks which I've swapped the speedo unit for one from a DT125X which are mph for £40 used

Spent years (back in the day) riding full power 125's on CBT's and as long as you dress well, have L-plates and don't ride like an idiot (well all the time!) you should be ok.

Regarding the exhaust studs if there is still metal left where they came out you can repair them. I'd recommend using time-serts over helicoil as it's an actual new threaded insert rather than a coiled piece of wire. If the cylinder is badly damaged it will need to be welded to build up enough metal to repair.

You might be able to pick up another cylinder cheaper than the repair if very lucky

Really fancy a Super-City myself but have the TDR now and prefer the Yamaha reliability over the Cagiva's.

Built an RS 125 a good few years ago. Even standard full power with 34mm carb they make a really good sportsbike and one that you can have plenty of fun riding even with a full licence.

TBH I probably preferred the RS to my old RGV250

@tdrnoob said in TDR issue:

@nottsbiker Hi. You wrote earlier to increase the jetting by 5%. It has pilot jet and main jet so do you mean those two to change to higher ones by 5%?

I will test the bike with the original ones first

I'm not an expert on jetting just relaying what I'd read years back. If in doubt get it set up by a tuner

I was thinking a twelve gauge was bette...

DT200WR and DT200R both fit straight in.

Both will need carb, pipe and exhaust in the case of 200WR.

Neither 200 engine is bonkers like a YZ engine, however the 200 is like the 125 you always wanted and has more grunt.

The 200WR engine is slightly more powerful than the 200R and has a nikasil liner rather than a plain steel one.

I have a DT200WR and a TDR125 Belgarda and I'm probably going with a 200R lump in the Belgarda just because it will look right and need the least mods.

Ben

buy yourself a thread restoring file - they usually have x8 different thread profiles on them

@britshgigolo make sure that you get the right width bearings as the original are narrower than the typical ones for the DT's diameter

@harveymg I'd contact Mick Abbey for a quote on the tuning work and see what it would cost that way you'd get it all set up correctly

@tdrnoob

No problem mate was my rusty memory!

Be interested to hear how you are getting on as well

An example of a colour scheme I really like the look of;

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I'd look around for another set of clocks.

My DT200WR came with kmh clocks which I've swapped the speedo unit for one from a DT125X which are mph for £40 used

@mhbikesnbits sorry - think it looked local that's all

Where are you in the UK? Not near Nottingham are you?

@Minia glad to hear that you're sorted

@CalDT125 Great result - learnt something new today

@NINJA I'm not sure but I could have sworn that the X forks were shorter not longer but like anything in life I could well be wrong!

@AndyJay that would give you a 12.5 weight - I'd stick with stock unless the springs are too bouncy for you and some stiffer springs if you're larger than an average rider

You'll need that welding and then tapping as I think a 10mm hole would be too large for an 8mm helicoil to fit into securely.

If you remove the cylinder a local engineering place should be able to tig it up for you reasonably cheaply

@NINJA I thought that the R and RE had the same forks and only the X had the shorter ones to work with the SM wheels.

Bargain

True - had 2 Tuono's myself before my 996 and they are great fun and an easy way to lose your license

@mhbikesnbits not restricted in any way. Always tuneable

I hear you dude!

This year is getting the DT200WR onto the road (its scruffy) then over the winter doing a SM rebuild. Trouble is I've also got a TDR125 Belgarda I want to make a 200R and my 900 Monster in bits ready to build with lots of carbon and full Maxton suspension.

Next project is going to be a Suzuki SJ with replica Willys Jeep body mounted on top

I'd have said the Raptor was more like a Ducati Monster and less like a Tuono as its basically a tweaked Planet.

Reminds me I must get my 900 back together at some point soon!

All the BAR bikes are tuned

Also they always have super skinny wheels and low boy exhausts

Can't beat that kind of easy repair even though they can be an arse to find

@pedrobatista10 had an RS125 but no Cagiva. Always fancied a SuperCity though

DT200WR and DT200R both fit straight in.

Both will need carb, pipe and exhaust in the case of 200WR.

Neither 200 engine is bonkers like a YZ engine, however the 200 is like the 125 you always wanted and has more grunt.

The 200WR engine is slightly more powerful than the 200R and has a nikasil liner rather than a plain steel one.

I have a DT200WR and a TDR125 Belgarda and I'm probably going with a 200R lump in the Belgarda just because it will look right and need the least mods.

Ben

Quality looks great - can't say I agree with the colour choice as I'm more of a black with added black kinda guy

Your project is like mine - restricted by cash flow or lack of.....

Ben

You cant buy the foam part of the filter holder separately from Yamaha unfortunately but can get some from a hobby shop and cut / glue that in instead

buy yourself a thread restoring file - they usually have x8 different thread profiles on them

Sparks and flames is all I'm going to say...

@AndyJay easy job on the old DT

Think I've wrapped it in something then rolled around the perforated tube.

Years ago I used a tea towel for baffling when I was skint. Let's just say it didn't last long....

Think they are shorter because there are x4 sets of petals not x2 as stock

Misread original post as rev counter not odometer doh

I had Veypor speedo on my last DT and was very good quality

Just picked up an X unit for my DT200WR as the original is km and that was 40 quid for the whole thing used

Will be interested to hear how you get on with the new ignition system as next year I'd consider one of these for my WR200 as the CDI's are getting thin on the ground now

Reassemble is simply the reverse of the disassembly procedure.

That's a gem from Haynes and about ad helpful ad an ashtray on a motorcycle

You won't need to, they will be wheelie monsters with the right gearing

@declan unfortunately you are correct

Could just be a broken cable have you checked that first?

Looks like good progress mate

I'm off to Normandy in June if Brexit don't balls it up - I always take my dog on my travels even this year for the 75th anniversary celebrations

Regarding the exhaust studs if there is still metal left where they came out you can repair them. I'd recommend using time-serts over helicoil as it's an actual new threaded insert rather than a coiled piece of wire. If the cylinder is badly damaged it will need to be welded to build up enough metal to repair.

You might be able to pick up another cylinder cheaper than the repair if very lucky

@Minia can you still get gas gas spares?

I've just bought a DT125X headlight cover from Fowlers in black for £28 which I thought was a reasonable price.

You can use a replica front mud guard and again I've picked up a Polisport YZ one in black for £15 delivered from Ebay.

I can't get any other cheap plastics as I have a DT200WR so have to search for my bits or just pay high dealer prices and only have the choice of white or maybe purple (only scoops and side panels).

Ben

@britshgigolo make sure that you get the right width bearings as the original are narrower than the typical ones for the DT's diameter

@autovictor sorry mate was just thinking it might be bigger. Loving the idea of the new version Tenere you're thinking of though.

Have you considered checking with Acerbis to see if they make a DT tank?

@Calum isn't there a metal spacer as well? They can wear too if fitted and leak around the seal

@harveymg I'd contact Mick Abbey for a quote on the tuning work and see what it would cost that way you'd get it all set up correctly

@autovictor have you checked to see if the 230 Lanza tank is the same size as the 125? If not could be an easy upgrade in size.

@harveymg there is a slight difference in shape so I'd guess you need the 200 exhaust but may need to adapt it to fit the 125 mounts

@DTR-NSR yes they are narrower. Found out the hard way years ago when I couldn't get my cases back together......

@Big-Col tbh I'm looking forward to using the 200 more this year as the 1200 is good but the little wr is scruffy so it don't matter if it gets dropped off road. Got to laugh the Multistrada has an enduro setting - like that's going off road lol!

Worth it if that shock is rebuildable otherwise get a YSS one new as it's now so old it's probably worn out by now

@autovictor I'd say its do-able if you have some fabrication skills. Bear in mind that you'll need the fairing and seat all to match

@Big-Col no worries I've got a 1200 Multistrada to go with my DT200WR and TDR Belgarda

@NINJA yes better made than DEP too!

@Calum said in Another New Guy:

@NINJA Stock pipe. The amount of weight saved by going aftermarket is probably where 90% of the noticeable power comes from I swear!

The FMF on my DT200WR is like a feather in comparison to the stock one which weighs a tonne!

Go after market every time

Thanks but the previous owner has really neglected the maintenance on my wr so I'm changing them as they are too far gone.

Found some UFO guards for £35 delivered just need a useable front disc before I figure out what I'm doing regards the headlight / front mudguard (mines rubbish after market junk)

Lol are you near Nottingham?

Guessing RE with 200R engine

Anyone serious about doing this as I have a lwb trafic that could carry 3 bikes?

Can't do it for a few months as am off to France shortly with GF on Multistrada so cash tight for a while.

I want a WR200 for a toy / SM so always up for a jolly.

Van is pop-top so i have a bed! For me that is....

Always wondered why Planet 5 / Frankie etc never register their bikes in the UK - any clues?

Ben

I would assume so.

Mine i beleive is a 3XD as it's got spoked wheels not alloys.

Trouble is my caliper mount on my forks is broken and the later SH forks are easier to come by.

Hi All

Does anyone know if the Brembo wheels from the 4dl TZR are the same as the 3 spoke alloy wheels fitted to the later Belgarda TDR's?

Thanks

Ben

Looks like the 41mm bit is based on the stanchion diameter so bear this in mind when assuming that WR200 USD forks will fit, they wont as the slider part on these is considerably larger than 41mm and wont fit in your yokes. Also FZR and YZF forks will be a lot shorter than DT ones

Will probably feel like a massive improvement in the real world compared to the small increases shown by the dyno

Think you need to undo the allen bolt at the bottom without the part inside spinning round. You may be lucky and get it undone if you leave the fork leg in one piece and apply pressure to compress it whilst simultaneously turning the bolt. If this doesn't work you have to either use the factory tool (rare & expensive) or trim down the end of a broom handle to fit inside the end of the damper rod and lock it in place whilst you undo the bolt. If you have an impact gun to hand this also might shock it loose.

These are either really easy or a total pig in my experience

Yes, might be glued in like the airbox halves are glued / screwed together

Is it to accommodate the additional boost bottle / intake silencer on the later models? Did this addition make the airbox to carb rubber longer??

Erm... Now I'm worried...

Naked models?

Welcome

Sometimes an expensive bike works out cheaper in the long run

Hey there!

Sounds like you've got the engine I've been after for my TDR in your 3ET

Not sure what I'm going to do with my Lightburner as I've decided I need (want) a DT200WR super motard to carry around on the back of our van when on holiday.

I've also got a Ducati Monster in bits I'm going to build up next spring but miss having something light and fun that can be enjoyed at legal speeds.

Ben

Maybe but exclusivity costs money

Is it not in that pdf i sent out last week?

Iirc it's connected to the battery via a heavy duty red (positive) cable which then goes to the starter motor. I think that the black (earth) cable goes from the battery to the solenoid then from there attaches to the engine. There is also a two wire plug that goes to the solenoid which is the lower power switching signal which is connected to the starter button.

No pics I'm afraid I'm away on holiday at mo

Cool that will be a interesting read

Ben

Personal choice is what's going to be the decider here

I've had 3 DTR's 1 other TDR and 1 DT-WR and would always build a WR based bike over the road biased R every day.

Like I said though it's personal choice

Yes and I'll stick my neck on the line here and say the 3XP engine is better off staying in the superior WR chassis. If you can get hold of individual 3XP parts at a reasonable cost however it's worth doing.

Regulator mounts differently on the TDR to the X. Yours iirc it's on the rad frame and the TDR one fits like the DTR under the seat and is held on with a screw that doesn't hold anything else on

Does this mount to the coil bolt. Looks like it fits onto something. The loom on the Belgarda TDR is slightly different to the DTR ones.

Try owning a 3SH TDR then tell me about hard to find parts

NLA is all I get when I search for bits on Fowlers etc. Least I've got a complete parts list

Ok thanks

Same colour as the one I had many years back.

Sad story about the theft though dude

The original Yamaha colours were miles better than the garish shell-suit ones which followed. That blue bike is / was stunning

Your pictures seem to be blocked by my work fire wall so I cannot see them but it might be an idea to do a write up on the fork install to help others who want to do a similar job.

I must be getting old as i now like the original indicators over the naff mini ones which no other road users can see.

Looks like DT ones are the same as early TDR so that will make my search easier.

Got most of a sectional garage stacked up in my garden and a loft / shed full of Ducati and Yamaha parts which barely leaves any room to move in. I've also have an 8x4m hole dug in my garden for ages filled with hardcore and aggregate waiting for some expensive concrete to be poured on top. Apparently I'll need 5 cubic metres of concrete which equates to over 100 wheelbarrow's worth + my garden is about 60m from the front, up a slope to the 'garage' - this will definitely require favours to be called in!

This is going to be an over winter project along with my Monster as I've got to choose between spending my spare (lol) cash on my garage or building the bikes up. Whilst the bikes are the most interesting the garage project is the one which will enable the bikes to be built quicker, later.

Black with added black is mine

Think yours was safer...

Had forgotten what buying a total nail was like. This bike is reminding me everytime I go near it.

Looks like decent work in progress, but definitely needs to have a scheme and not the slightly random approach. Still Rome wasn't built in a day

Meant to add that my original calliper was glued on with one of the mounts, so god only knows how it 'passed' its last MOT.

This will teach me not to bid on ebay late at night with the old "I'll never win that...."

I'm tempted with YZ/WR forks with a supermoto calliper spacer to run the stock Brembo disc maybe with a matching Brembo goldline calliper as the TDR disc is exactly the same as my 900 Monster

490 air-cooled, no power valve - mental I'd imagine

Did you modify the frame to hold the oil / go with twin rads etc?

@declan said in Engine swaps for dummies!:

@finnerz89 my front engine mount is solid can't loosen it I tried everything my swing arm one was good though I had to leave the engine in the frame to rebuild it

Get some heat and penetrating fluid in there (diesel works too) and alternate trying to turn it both ways with hitting it. Be careful if you try and hit the threaded end as you will need to keep the nut on in case you peen it over or miss and damage the threads.

Steering bearings probably yes. Fork seals no idea as DTR are possibly Kayaba and TDR are Paoli so might be different even though the stancions are the same diameter.

Just pulled out all the bushes etc out of the TDR linkage and have made a start on the swingarm but ran out of time over the weekend. Grease nipples are good when they work, but nothing can replace taking something apart, cleaning it fully and putting back together again - why not make it a winter task, or do it when off work sometime.

Plenty of 200's in France - you just have to pop over and pick one up

That shed holds the 1990's so it must be big!!

Would love a TS200R but maybe not in those RM shellsuit colours

There are always old two strokes appearing on eBay down Romford way that have come across the channel so I'd expect to see more CRM's appearing.

My friend works for Leisure Trail and says the 250 parts are getting very hard to come by these days so the 125 is possibly the one to pick up and rebuild

Ok thanks for clearing it up

Shame its a nicer shape than stock but when / if I change something I like to upgrade a possibly save some weight.

Looks good

I'm always on Fowlers and CSMNL looking at their exploded diagrams

If I wanted the 3 spoke alloys I'd fit the same as in your pictures but mine are the first model spoked wheels and I quite like them. Unfortunately Yamaha back in the late 80's went with an 18 inch front rim which limits tyre choice so I'm probably going to have another rim laced onto my front hub as my wheels are ready to be done now. The standard rims are aluminium so it would be a good match to put a rear on the front hub.

The swingarm on the later ones also suits the alloy wheels nicely but I can't make out if its steel or ally?

Mines black but looks like it's been used for target practice by some hillbillies so mines probably getting junked.

Looking at ebay europe at mo so will probably collect a full set over the winter from various different countries as just as cost effective as buying random panels here and having painted.

Out in the sunshine today sanding the rust off my frame before treating it then storing until I can afford the rebuild. Got my airbox apart as well for cleaning and randomly someone's cut a bloody hole in the battery tray - wtf for i don't know.

No worries - gf has a nuclear red Speed Triple or pink in the real world

@calum said in Inspiration 101:

@andrewj1680 I personally would rather than Lanza...

Yes me too the Lanza is a big bore 125RE with awful headlight and occasional ally swingarm

Yamaha don't call pink, pink they sometimes call it vivid magenta if you want stock

Yeah thought it was Chinese lol

Standard

Pong?

Looks up to the job mate

Sorry only skim read

Yes is going to take for ever to get up to operating temperatures with no stat

How hot is the bike running?

Might be a daft question but is it getting hot enough to show on the gauge. I seem to remember my previous DT-R's would run just under halfway on the gauge.

Think you and i will be after m the same vintage servo motors

Don't out bid me on any lol

Looks like a awful waste of a Panigale motor to me

I think the word waying not weighing gives it away

Honda won't make another two stroke I'm certain of it

@andrewj1680 said in Hello All:

My rgv250 was a animal i find hard to believe a rs125 would come anywhere close to it

I've owned TL1000S, 996, Tuono 1000 etc so I know what animal bikes are like to ride

RS125 was just a really nice small capacity sportsbike that's what I was getting at. Obviously an RGV will be quicker, but sometimes there's more fun in maxing a tiddler

@calum only because I was always waiting for the Suzuki power valves to drop into the cylinders and cause the engine to go pop

I had one of those - big and quite heavy with an awful cat in the exhaust. Not sure what they are like with a decent exhaust mind you. Hopefully my Belgarda TDR will be quicker that the Japanese version

Really fancy a Super-City myself but have the TDR now and prefer the Yamaha reliability over the Cagiva's.

Built an RS 125 a good few years ago. Even standard full power with 34mm carb they make a really good sportsbike and one that you can have plenty of fun riding even with a full licence.

TBH I probably preferred the RS to my old RGV250

Spent years (back in the day) riding full power 125's on CBT's and as long as you dress well, have L-plates and don't ride like an idiot (well all the time!) you should be ok.

Yes which is why I was unsure about all 230's but looking at the that picture it looks the same as the old 200R

The WR200 and DT200's have alloy swingarms but the Lanza i have seen had steel so they might vary on the 230.

The 3ET 200R is a direct swap but not sure on the WR / DT-WR's