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    2stroketerry
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    Hi @Calum , no don't need to insure the bike to register it just the mot, you insure it once the dvla send you your new logbook with registration number.

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      Hi @Calum , no don't need to insure the bike to register it just the mot, you insure it once the dvla send you your new logbook with registration number.

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      @2stroketerry Well it'll need insurance to get me to the MOT center. I don't have a trailer. We did it for my brothers YZ when he wanted to road legal it.

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        Dont need insurance on vin now for dvla to register unless u live in northern Ireland, just mot and foreign logbook or dating certificate completed V55/5 form proof of id, i send copy of driving licence passport and copy of virgin media bill. It also needs to be registered on HMRC nova system. The nova needs to be done a minimum of one month from arriving in the UK or you are liable for an HMRC fine even if no duty is payable ie on EU bikes. You are not allowed to ride an unregistered bike to the mot even with insurance on vin number. Logbooks usually take 10 to 14 days to arrive but it can drag on if they choose to inspect your bike, its nothing though they now come to you if they want an inspection it just adds time to the process.

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          Dont need insurance on vin now for dvla to register unless u live in northern Ireland, just mot and foreign logbook or dating certificate completed V55/5 form proof of id, i send copy of driving licence passport and copy of virgin media bill. It also needs to be registered on HMRC nova system. The nova needs to be done a minimum of one month from arriving in the UK or you are liable for an HMRC fine even if no duty is payable ie on EU bikes. You are not allowed to ride an unregistered bike to the mot even with insurance on vin number. Logbooks usually take 10 to 14 days to arrive but it can drag on if they choose to inspect your bike, its nothing though they now come to you if they want an inspection it just adds time to the process.

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          @scrimsmustang What? Since when can you not ride the bike? Wasn't that long ago we did my brothers YZ and he rode that to the test center? So I need to arrange transport to the test center to get it MOT'd then now?

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            @scrimsmustang What? Since when can you not ride the bike? Wasn't that long ago we did my brothers YZ and he rode that to the test center? So I need to arrange transport to the test center to get it MOT'd then now?

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            @calum Yes you can ride a registered bike with no mot to the test but not an unregistered one

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              @calum Yes you can ride a registered bike with no mot to the test but not an unregistered one

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              @scrimsmustang His YZ was not registered.

              It was a prerequisite to registering it.

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                You could ride it if u want but most coppers wouldnt have a clue anyway they would pull you for no reg plate though

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                    Since the bike is imported and you've done the tax work already then that's step 1 done, they should not ask you for any more. Now you will need the german equivalent of the V5 and you'll need to apply for nova registration next, you will need to send them the german V5. Once that is done you need to contact the DVLA and send them your NOVA papers, you should not need to send them the german V5. Once you get your UK V5 back, it's mot and insurance and you're on the road. They might ask for your bike to be inspected but since it came from germany, i.e the EU, it should be fine. I don't want to discourage you since you obviously want to ride your bike for summer, but my experience with this process is it takes several months. The HRMC Nova will be done relatively easily, but the DVLA like to take their time. Best of luck.

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                      Since the bike is imported and you've done the tax work already then that's step 1 done, they should not ask you for any more. Now you will need the german equivalent of the V5 and you'll need to apply for nova registration next, you will need to send them the german V5. Once that is done you need to contact the DVLA and send them your NOVA papers, you should not need to send them the german V5. Once you get your UK V5 back, it's mot and insurance and you're on the road. They might ask for your bike to be inspected but since it came from germany, i.e the EU, it should be fine. I don't want to discourage you since you obviously want to ride your bike for summer, but my experience with this process is it takes several months. The HRMC Nova will be done relatively easily, but the DVLA like to take their time. Best of luck.

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                      @minia Yeah mate, I get that they may take their sweet time lol.

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                        @2stroketerry said in Registering a European Motorcycle UK:

                        DVLA V55/5 form

                        You have to send the german v5 to the dvla with your V55/5 form, you do not get the german document back. They shouldn't need to inspect the bike, @Calum if you want i can send you the V55/5 form as have some and will send full explanation on how to go through the registration process quickly and easily.

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                          @2stroketerry said in Registering a European Motorcycle UK:

                          DVLA V55/5 form

                          You have to send the german v5 to the dvla with your V55/5 form, you do not get the german document back. They shouldn't need to inspect the bike, @Calum if you want i can send you the V55/5 form as have some and will send full explanation on how to go through the registration process quickly and easily.

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                          @2stroketerry I will have a look at the documents this weekend if I have any issues I will give you a buzz definitely.

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                            Since the bike is imported and you've done the tax work already then that's step 1 done, they should not ask you for any more. Now you will need the german equivalent of the V5 and you'll need to apply for nova registration next, you will need to send them the german V5. Once that is done you need to contact the DVLA and send them your NOVA papers, you should not need to send them the german V5. Once you get your UK V5 back, it's mot and insurance and you're on the road. They might ask for your bike to be inspected but since it came from germany, i.e the EU, it should be fine. I don't want to discourage you since you obviously want to ride your bike for summer, but my experience with this process is it takes several months. The HRMC Nova will be done relatively easily, but the DVLA like to take their time. Best of luck.

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                            @minia said in Registering a European Motorcycle UK:

                            Since the bike is imported and you've done the tax work already then that's step 1 done, they should not ask you for any more. Now you will need the german equivalent of the V5 and you'll need to apply for nova registration next, you will need to send them the german V5. Once that is done you need to contact the DVLA and send them your NOVA papers, you should not need to send them the german V5. Once you get your UK V5 back, it's mot and insurance and you're on the road. They might ask for your bike to be inspected but since it came from germany, i.e the EU, it should be fine. I don't want to discourage you since you obviously want to ride your bike for summer, but my experience with this process is it takes several months. The HRMC Nova will be done relatively easily, but the DVLA like to take their time. Best of luck.

                            You dont need to send your German V5 to HMRC for nova you dont even need to send an invoice copy, they dont class eu imported bikes as imports as no duty is payable on eu bikes. But the nova application form will ask for German reg number and date of first registration . If you have German V5 when you apply for nova dont put down that its been in uk for longer than a month or you could be fined. You dont even need to send the nova confirmation form to dvla once you get it they have access to the HMRC details through the vin number. If you dont have a German V5 you can use a dating certificate for dvla an indipendant one will be cheaper than aprillia uk. From posting applications to dvla i normally get logbooks back in 10 to 14 days. Can take a monthish if they want an inspection. If they do you have to book it yourself as its not dvla who do the inspection these days its a private firm. Registration is easy.

                            You need after nova registration is done

                            Completed V55/5
                            Mot
                            Proof of id
                            Foreign logbook or dating certificate
                            Cheque or postal order for 74 quid

                            Thats it simple as. I do around 20 of these a year.

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                              @minia said in Registering a European Motorcycle UK:

                              Since the bike is imported and you've done the tax work already then that's step 1 done, they should not ask you for any more. Now you will need the german equivalent of the V5 and you'll need to apply for nova registration next, you will need to send them the german V5. Once that is done you need to contact the DVLA and send them your NOVA papers, you should not need to send them the german V5. Once you get your UK V5 back, it's mot and insurance and you're on the road. They might ask for your bike to be inspected but since it came from germany, i.e the EU, it should be fine. I don't want to discourage you since you obviously want to ride your bike for summer, but my experience with this process is it takes several months. The HRMC Nova will be done relatively easily, but the DVLA like to take their time. Best of luck.

                              You dont need to send your German V5 to HMRC for nova you dont even need to send an invoice copy, they dont class eu imported bikes as imports as no duty is payable on eu bikes. But the nova application form will ask for German reg number and date of first registration . If you have German V5 when you apply for nova dont put down that its been in uk for longer than a month or you could be fined. You dont even need to send the nova confirmation form to dvla once you get it they have access to the HMRC details through the vin number. If you dont have a German V5 you can use a dating certificate for dvla an indipendant one will be cheaper than aprillia uk. From posting applications to dvla i normally get logbooks back in 10 to 14 days. Can take a monthish if they want an inspection. If they do you have to book it yourself as its not dvla who do the inspection these days its a private firm. Registration is easy.

                              You need after nova registration is done

                              Completed V55/5
                              Mot
                              Proof of id
                              Foreign logbook or dating certificate
                              Cheque or postal order for 74 quid

                              Thats it simple as. I do around 20 of these a year.

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                              Calum
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                              @scrimsmustang Cool. So with a bit of luck I should be MOT'ing it July/August (ordered everything I think I needed yesterday morning) only the powervalve housing is out of stock at the moment. Probably have a spare lying aorund.

                              So I've requested the V55/5 form, logged into my government gateway account to check the NOVA so I'm happy that's been done.

                              Cheers lads.

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                                @calum Good to go then Cal, its nothing to worry about. I have just got 2 logbooks today K reg White/Pink DTR and Red/White 03 reg CRM that were both sent off on the 18th of this month so 12 days turn around. They are both going straight back to dvla in the new owners names. CRM done 20hp at wheel on Mick Abbey dyno jet run nothing more than derestricted and arrow pipe. Easy for us live 20 mins from his shop.

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                                  @minia said in Registering a European Motorcycle UK:

                                  Since the bike is imported and you've done the tax work already then that's step 1 done, they should not ask you for any more. Now you will need the german equivalent of the V5 and you'll need to apply for nova registration next, you will need to send them the german V5. Once that is done you need to contact the DVLA and send them your NOVA papers, you should not need to send them the german V5. Once you get your UK V5 back, it's mot and insurance and you're on the road. They might ask for your bike to be inspected but since it came from germany, i.e the EU, it should be fine. I don't want to discourage you since you obviously want to ride your bike for summer, but my experience with this process is it takes several months. The HRMC Nova will be done relatively easily, but the DVLA like to take their time. Best of luck.

                                  You dont need to send your German V5 to HMRC for nova you dont even need to send an invoice copy, they dont class eu imported bikes as imports as no duty is payable on eu bikes. But the nova application form will ask for German reg number and date of first registration . If you have German V5 when you apply for nova dont put down that its been in uk for longer than a month or you could be fined. You dont even need to send the nova confirmation form to dvla once you get it they have access to the HMRC details through the vin number. If you dont have a German V5 you can use a dating certificate for dvla an indipendant one will be cheaper than aprillia uk. From posting applications to dvla i normally get logbooks back in 10 to 14 days. Can take a monthish if they want an inspection. If they do you have to book it yourself as its not dvla who do the inspection these days its a private firm. Registration is easy.

                                  You need after nova registration is done

                                  Completed V55/5
                                  Mot
                                  Proof of id
                                  Foreign logbook or dating certificate
                                  Cheque or postal order for 74 quid

                                  Thats it simple as. I do around 20 of these a year.

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                                  DTR andy
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                                  @scrimsmustang

                                  are you applying for NOVA as VAT registered?

                                  Private applications are sometimes asked for EU receipts and proof of age via email. So it's wise for privates to get a dating cert done first and have the receipt ready.

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                                    No not applied as vat registered, hmrc dont even class eu bikes as imports as no duty is payable on them and not once have they asked for a foreign logbook copy or receipt for any eu bike I have registered . None eu bikes hmrc do want a copy of the foreign logbook and purchase receipt so they can calculate the duty, every none eu bike they have asked for them.

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                                      On this website they do insurance on vin and it says you can get drive to a pre arranged mot https://ajinsurance.co.uk/personal-insurance/car-insurance/chassis-number-unregistered

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