@Calum said in Forum Outage:

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Big Clive? Naaaaahhh mate.. it’s all about big lez ya fucken druggo

Bonjour forum! I’m stevie, I’m 20 years old and I have Asperger’s Syndrome (ASD). I have never been part of a forum before, I’d always thought they where for nerds Now here I am eating my words after lurking and winding up here so many times from numerous google searches, as if it wasn’t for this forum I wouldn’t know or have anywhere near any of the information I know now or needed to know! (a special mention to darty and ninja).
Are there any rules I need to know or guidelines to using the forum/site?

I remember the first time I saw a DT, it was early 2017. I was at the skatepark and my mate got a go on the back and got off white
Weren’t long after I got my licence, I had a crappy stock lexmoto and just remember just watching him fly off into the distance.
It was a beautiful bike too, clean, a lot of attention to detail and tasteful redbull/Yamaha Mx graphics kit.
The look, the smell, the power... instant love at first site. My first ever DT memory. Oddly enough it was a bloody ‘DT125RE too, not even my favourite.

In a strange twist of fate the bike got sold and a year later I found it up for sale on gumtree in Norwich looking a bit sorry for itself. £2.5k bike now looking rough up for £1.75. Mad.

Fast forward 2 years later I’m scrolling through my Faceache news feed and see a post pop up on Facebook of a guy who’s just bought a bike that’s in pieces, for some help.
You guessed it, it’s that bike.
What’s the chances eh?

I pop up to him to say its a nice bike blah blah blah, I might be able to help him etc.
He says he just picked it up for £250
DT125RE, painted frame, same livery the lot.
I saw it and had flashbacks of the first DT I ever saw

I chat to him a little bit just so I don’t come across a creep and let out that I think my mate used to own it and that I could tell him a little bit about it / connect him to the guy that originally owned and I asked him for the reg.

The day after I did some social networking to trace the guy who originally built and owned the bike and he asks me for some pictures, so I’m like yeah sweet mate I’ll go grab them from the chat I was having with this other geeza...

Went back on to Facebook messenger to find every single message removed, one by one, original post on Facebook gone the lot.
Didn’t quite know what to say or do.

In other news though my area especially specifically where I live has had a history with bikers since the 60’s due to the pier and Mods Vs Rockers culture, the biker cafes / beach and Gt Bentley bike night. One of the largest regular bike meets in the U.K.

Essex is funny ole place though. With its dodgy history/legacy over the years there’s all sorts of things tucked away in barns and things.
It’s full of really interesting people that have hidden gems, for example I befriended a local elderly man through our love of two strokes.
He’d told me about he’s speedway racing days and even better about 350 and 500 tucked away in his garage he’s too old to ride now (the best part is he lives no further then five minutes from me in a place I’ve lived more then 10 years. What’s the chances haha?).

I must say though there aren’t many DT’s in Essex. A few KMX’s but no DT’s. I remember when I was looking for a bike to buy finding one in my area was next to impossible.
Funny story about that though... bit of irony too.
Despite only ever seeing a DT that once in the time up till then that I’d been riding, it didn’t stop by some mystical divine chance one going up sale in my village within the first week of me looking.
You go from never seeing one in your life to looking for one and then “hocus-pokus-dtr-smokus” DTR’s magically be appearing.

Another time me and my mate was pulling apart my RM in the sun out the front of the house, proper old school style. I run up the road to return to a DT250MX parked outside. Had to run my eyes.
Walking back I spotted a guy in bike gear at a house about 5 doors down, spoke to him and he says it’s his.
20 minutes later he walks over to see me working on the RM with my friend, we have a chat and he’s a Yamaha collector with a love for DT’s.
Turns out the 250mx was one from his collection and he was visiting his daughter for a BBQ. Once again, only 5 doors down.

Absolutely bloody bonkers.
I got a video of it too but for internet safety purposes I can’t upload it here.

It’s worth noting what a bloody beautiful bike the 250mx is too, very very cool vintage styling that’s timeless. I was also surprised at the size of the thing too, they’re surprising big!
(Story time over )

A thrilling read of abbreviations and part codes immortalised forever within the DT125R forum. Complete with a brief compliation of backwards compatible/direct bolt on parts.*

So, my first post (1:52am) this is going to be a personal record and almost blog following me and my journey starts singing don’t stop believin’ with my DTR *this is still only my second post on the forum and I’m using an iPhone so when I work out how to upload photos, I’ll post in chronological order photos from the first time I ever saw the bike online, met it, bought it and everything else in between. It’s worth noting, due to how special this bike is to me I won’t ever part ways with it, so this could be a long one guys! Hopefully we can meet a few people on the way that enjoy, inspire or maybe learn from this journey. I hope for the best.
So to begin with, I have never owned or even properly ridden a two stroke above a chainsaw or 50cc having only ridden four strokes and my own custom built race spec 150cc lexmoto adrenaline.
For that reason owning a DTR is also a massive learning curve in terms of riding, maintenance and even learning the mechanical side of things as well as how two strokes tick.
Secondly, owning this bike is a huge personal achievement for me since I started riding that was the one that I wanted, to a point I had written on my bucket list. Which is why I think this post wether it be for my own use as a timeline might also turn out to be pretty special. See for me, DTR’s are pretty special they’re a name that’s known and synonymous with memories from family members of when they where my age of how they used to steal them, rag them on fields and all the old pub talk deristriction and go faster tricks everyone used to chat about back in the day. Which of course is also follow by said friend/family member saying how “rapid” the DT is whilst simultaneously making this face that’s only ever made when they reminisce what it was like sitting on one for the first time and feeling what a powerband does to a 17 year old teen in the 90’s. DTR’s are a little slice of nostalgia for me of a time when I was a wee wee nipper and all the cars my family had where old transits, nova’s and shit mondeo’s .
Now the reason this bike is so special to me is not only is it something I said to myself I’ll do before I die but also because, I went that extra distance to find a DTR manufactured in ‘98, the year of my birth (it’s actually only 4 months older then me believe it or not). The months and months of continuous searching that led to finally find this bike is something of a journey in itself, especially as I refused to settle for anything less then original and in 5 condition, not asking for much . I would also like to add as I’m only 20, my DTR is singularly the biggest purchase I’ve ever made in my life to date and as anyone that’s ever grown up knows there’s a lot of hard work, determination, perseverance and life’s BS thrown at you on the way to get there. It’s surreal owning it but looking at it is a constant reminder to work hard and that I can achieve whatever I want to. Also given the fact it’s a French import I will be the first named keeper on all its paper work (something that I won’t ever let change). Hopefully you can understand now why this bike is pretty special and significant to me. Current ideas are to build a 90’s MX and 90’s YZ inspired bike and tuning the bike as much as I can whilst keeping its originality and authenticity to the era.
This means using as many OEM parts as possible or parts that would’ve been available back in the day (however a 170 kit, boring out and porting a cylinder or even hunting whatever I need to make it 200cc also seems an option). I’d read here about 32mm TZR dellorto carbs and bits and pieces from wr200’s/DT200’s and DT230 bolt straight on and can give a good boost.
Also because we, England, have such a strong heritage in MX there’s tonns of upgrades available from british manufacturers so I plan to use as many british made parts too, just as a nice little bit patriotism.

Just an idea because I know mine are non existent and I’m pretty sure I saw a post it somewhere, has anyone ever thought of using these or know any other alternatives whilst I’m here? (YZ125 89-92 Roller Set)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223493276708

@oldman said in Klx250:

Finally found a KLX 250 for a good price, also came with super moto wheels. Fitted new tyres, c&s, rebuilt brakes, full service, few mods so far, valve clearance checked, manual cam chain tensioner to fit and counter shaft (sprocket) oil seal to change then it's done (almost)
Still riding the red dt and the dtmx, though they will be put away for winter.

Stunning bikes. I am by no means a Kawasaki guy but credit where it’s due they where years ahead of Yamaha and the industry with the KLX’s.
I’ve seen a couple 95-99 models come up sale recently and they’ve green with envy (pun intended). Once again no Kawasaki guy but the mid 90’s models just look too cool and extremely modern. Oddly enough they seem to come up fairly cheap compared to the likes of XR’s and WR’s too, which seems strange considering it offers more then a lot of its adversaries?
Maybe garish green isn’t for everyone...

Let me know your thoughts on it and how you get on with it it’s been on my list of bikes to potentially buy when I do my A2 licence.
Only thing that puts me off is it only being a 250 and roughly 30hp and feel I’d want more to play with

@NINJA that goes without saying, also hello it’s lovely to speak to you after reading so many years worth of posts no doubt I’ll be picking your brain and getting to know you, ps I absolutely love your builds, pretty sure before I even bought a DT I’d saved a photo from one of your bikes dude. Considering how DTR’s are becoming scarce and almost vintage it’s really surprising to see such a strong community and so many owners all doing different things

@Calum my condolences and thoughts with you, I hope you’re okay dude. I was stuck at university when everything kicked off. Way before lockdown happened as soon as the university had a confirmed case they shut up shop and then in the space of two days over 1000 empty where they lived and returned home. It was insane to see a place soo lively become so desolate so quick.
I’ve heard so much corona this and that whatever that to some extent I’ve almost switched off to it, the empty streets and mad shopping makes precautions makes it feel like the backstory to a video game. I’m lucky as to where I live as there’s lots of fields, old hidden public footpaths, by ways and country roads that can go for miles and lots of other little places you can venture if you know the area very well. , luckily most of which you can also take a motorbike and because of how good and quiet the community it is no one ever complains as long as they know you

@Calum I get what you’re saying but I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick, there aren’t no problems. I also think I forgot to blog that I gave up with trying to sell the YZ bits after about a day of people asking me how’d you put them on their DTR.

I’m just writing my discoveries, events and developments as they happen.. even if they’re stupid little fuck ups so I can look back and watch myself learn as I build my bike.
I bare no humility or shame in the fact I’m learning, there’s a reason why I called this “An Idiots Guide...” after all

After giving up with facebook

I’ll be fair with ya though, I get what you’re saying... you see lots of posts but not a lot of progress. So... as it stands I’ve got a 2 maybe 3 week window (If I’m lucky) to get as much shit done as possible, here’s where I’m at.

• I’ve ordered the missing fork bolts
• full set of OEM fairing bolts.
• Brake hose guide/Cover (something really cool and unique from ‘96-‘05 although I don’t think they where used until ‘99)
• got worried if my plan with the speedo gear drive was going to work and looked into alternative options in case.
• Spent a year on Fowler’s working out the backwards compatibility of everything on the YZ / WR / WRF’s front end so I can make 100% sure I don’t buy anything from the wrong year and fuck myself.
• Concluded I have to run a ‘02-‘05 front wheel wheel as if memory serves me right Yamaha changed axles and stopped using that gear drive for the odometer unit I need to pinch.
  Hubs didn’t change from ‘02-‘18 Either across WRF line. Pretty sure even the forks ran from ‘96-‘06 with very few changes.
• I got measurements for the bearing race etc and send them off to have the bearing cup made and bought a nice new taper rolling bearing to boot.

All I need is a WRF wheel, speedo drive and the other parts to get back to me then hopefully we can see this come to life!

Hopefully “SnoopDogg” cough cough @SpookDog saved that 200R shock for me so I can put some cash in his pockets or gives him some goodies, I might have a surprise in store for him.
If I get the shock then my plan is to get a bearing kit for the 200WR swingarm and chuck it along with the shock into my bike as quick as possible as the 200wr swinger is probably my favourite thing I’ve bought/found to date.
Imo axle block adjusters + Deltabox alloy and USD’s will just really bring the DT in to the modern age and away from the clunky boxy 80’s look. I’m infinitely excited to never have to see or use snail shell adjusters again

So yeah, I had a little moment where I kinda gave up on myself and my plan. I found out that at any moment my uni could pull me back there at a moments notice despite not sorting any provisions and to make things ten times worse I had no funds (can’t get a job because of uni potentially recalling me, even when I’ve got 2 job interviews and a trial shift), bike has no Mot or tax, weathers getting worse and it’s sat without me touching it for three months and the person who was meant to be helping... well, just wasn’t.
That last part is the worst part, after all there’s only so much you can do for yourself and to help yourself before you need someone to help you along the way.

My man Arild was actually the guy who give me some words of wisdom to reflect on, ended up realising I have 75-85% of the parts to build a sick bike I’m just being a wet wipe about it

Well, that and these images certainly helped too...

Found this original survivor WR in a foreign forum whilst trying to find info on those early YZ/WR brake disc guards.

Judging by the wear, she had a good life and spent her years being used as intended by her owner.

Surprisingly the other thing that’s given me a lot of inspiration is just seeing some of the clean and simple YZ builds out there are

Even this,

Or this really catches my eye.
I think it’s just because I’m really imagining my bike as that though

@Calum said in Big Clive Dot Com Wiring Loom Exploration:

@Stevie-Wonder said in Big Clive Dot Com Wiring Loom Exploration:

Big Clive? Naaaaahhh mate.. it’s all about big lez ya fucken druggo

What? Are you alright.

Waddayatalkinabeet

https://youtu.be/SUN-_oHH-aM

Big Clive? Naaaaahhh mate.. it’s all about big lez ya fucken druggo

I’m a fan! If I where you I’d almost be tempted to keep the current DT you have relatively stock and just enjoy it as it is as it’s a clean bike and then build the other frame up.

Although I know how things go and realistically that just never happens

I see now as well we do actually have near enough the same front ends! I think yours are off a WR or slighter later year though?

Is that a 91’ swingarm too?. Very similar to the 200WR’s just cleaner (no tabs for chain guard etc) + the welds are also much better.
I’m not mistake but I’m pretty sure you can run most swingarms 88/89-91 relatively easily

Lovely bike though and looking forward to seeing more of what’s happening, must say I’m jealous of you having such luxuries as a spare frame and all that room to work

On the contrary I do however get to ride less then legal places borderline legally which is why i was going to say as it’s still essentially an off-road bike go and take it off road if ya can.

I admit to having more then a couple rides around my neighbourhood before my bike was legal but most of the time I just quietly popped off Into the fields, a lot of the time if you mind your own business being just an older guy with an old bike people will know you’re harmless.
Odds on you’ll even find someone who’s interested in the bike too!

@markus-w said in Air filter oil. Ram Air foam filter:

Hi all, my foam filter is a bit dry so I have order a can of filter oil but was wondering has anyone used any other type of oil just to get me going until my order arrives?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283683433382

One of my first purchases, comes with piper cross air filter cleaner and conditioner. £20 too. Bargain.

@SpookDog said in Engine tuning/ bike build:

Would weighting it with a flywheel help?...
I’m thinking dumbbell weight ...

I know nothing about dyno’s so bare with me here...
But wouldn’t altering the weight change the amount of resistance/force needed to move the roller in the first place thus altering readings more?

Welcome back,

The postman’s certainly been busy...

But then again he’s not the only one

Built in my bedroom.
My grandad would be proud right now.

My swingarm suffered the same fate as darty’s.
Shame. I’ve got a ‘89 chain slider with life in it, but I’m not chancy anything. The chain sliders aren’t designed to protect the swingarm very well in the first place.

k

Pure lack of care... the last owner didn’t run the correct spacers etc. Full OEM replacement had to be done all round, she’s like new now.

@Calum said in 1/4 Action Throttles / Quick Action Throttle for DT125R:

But on the DTR the throttle cable doesn't run to the carburettor.

It runs to a junction box. So forget the carburettor. All you need a is a small piece from the throttle tube to the junction box. The junction box then splits off to the oil pump and carburettor.

I run a quick throttle kit on my RS. All that was needed was the throttle tube and the cable to the junction box.

Most interesting....
I never actually knew that junction box was a separate thing. I had always been under the impression that junction box was a integrated Y split that was just all as one cable

How accessible is it to change and easy is it to locate a new cable?

Custom Option

So I got talking with a guy who builds 183 runners and the likes.
He tells me what you can do is just build your own cable, simple enough.

The majority of scooters modded and otherwise also run oil pumps, get where I’m going with this?

Build your own cable to your specifications so that regardless of size, fitments, oil pump or no oil pump you have something that’ll work for you

When I bought my ‘98 YZ 250 nobody told me that throttle cables have an assortment of different fitments... me knowing none the wiser proceeded to hammer, cut and file near enough the entire outer plastic sheath to make it fit.
Whoops.
Now I’m creating a thread so you don’t do the same hahaha

Here are some options for you from what I’ve found

1. Domino, domino offer a few different models and is the only product even semi-specific to the DTR.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112711596851

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113298527149

Domino KRR-03

2. Yamaha YZ (80, 125, 250, 490) 1982-1995 throttle (I haven’t tried this yet but throttle cables are near identical to a DT’s)

3. The old ‘88 KX80 (outer sheaf needs slight modification. No hammers involved.) as used by darty.

It’s worth noting that if you’re not using the stock carb/running oil pump then finding a nice 1/4 action throttle is much much easier.
To find all you have to do is find a bike with the same carb as you and cross reference.
The other thing to do is there’s a lot of places that will make throttles and cables specific to the series of carb you have I.e Mikuni’s “VM/TM” series.

Your other option if you plan on keeping the oil pump etc then what you can do is cut away that plastic sheaf like I did. Do away with it all together.
(Pre-warning though doing this without a hacksaw and damaging the cable is tricky, but if you have a small fine hacksaw and some patience it can be done)
Getting rid of this will give you the ability to add different sized Ferrurles (the nipple that finishes your cable) so you can then fit one that’d suit/fit better.
Once you’ve done that all you need is a barrel and grub screw to suit your throttle body.

@Calum I get what you’re saying but I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick, there aren’t no problems. I also think I forgot to blog that I gave up with trying to sell the YZ bits after about a day of people asking me how’d you put them on their DTR.

I’m just writing my discoveries, events and developments as they happen.. even if they’re stupid little fuck ups so I can look back and watch myself learn as I build my bike.
I bare no humility or shame in the fact I’m learning, there’s a reason why I called this “An Idiots Guide...” after all

After giving up with facebook

I’ll be fair with ya though, I get what you’re saying... you see lots of posts but not a lot of progress. So... as it stands I’ve got a 2 maybe 3 week window (If I’m lucky) to get as much shit done as possible, here’s where I’m at.

• I’ve ordered the missing fork bolts
• full set of OEM fairing bolts.
• Brake hose guide/Cover (something really cool and unique from ‘96-‘05 although I don’t think they where used until ‘99)
• got worried if my plan with the speedo gear drive was going to work and looked into alternative options in case.
• Spent a year on Fowler’s working out the backwards compatibility of everything on the YZ / WR / WRF’s front end so I can make 100% sure I don’t buy anything from the wrong year and fuck myself.
• Concluded I have to run a ‘02-‘05 front wheel wheel as if memory serves me right Yamaha changed axles and stopped using that gear drive for the odometer unit I need to pinch.
  Hubs didn’t change from ‘02-‘18 Either across WRF line. Pretty sure even the forks ran from ‘96-‘06 with very few changes.
• I got measurements for the bearing race etc and send them off to have the bearing cup made and bought a nice new taper rolling bearing to boot.

All I need is a WRF wheel, speedo drive and the other parts to get back to me then hopefully we can see this come to life!

Hopefully “SnoopDogg” cough cough @SpookDog saved that 200R shock for me so I can put some cash in his pockets or gives him some goodies, I might have a surprise in store for him.
If I get the shock then my plan is to get a bearing kit for the 200WR swingarm and chuck it along with the shock into my bike as quick as possible as the 200wr swinger is probably my favourite thing I’ve bought/found to date.
Imo axle block adjusters + Deltabox alloy and USD’s will just really bring the DT in to the modern age and away from the clunky boxy 80’s look. I’m infinitely excited to never have to see or use snail shell adjusters again

So yeah, I had a little moment where I kinda gave up on myself and my plan. I found out that at any moment my uni could pull me back there at a moments notice despite not sorting any provisions and to make things ten times worse I had no funds (can’t get a job because of uni potentially recalling me, even when I’ve got 2 job interviews and a trial shift), bike has no Mot or tax, weathers getting worse and it’s sat without me touching it for three months and the person who was meant to be helping... well, just wasn’t.
That last part is the worst part, after all there’s only so much you can do for yourself and to help yourself before you need someone to help you along the way.

My man Arild was actually the guy who give me some words of wisdom to reflect on, ended up realising I have 75-85% of the parts to build a sick bike I’m just being a wet wipe about it

Well, that and these images certainly helped too...

Found this original survivor WR in a foreign forum whilst trying to find info on those early YZ/WR brake disc guards.

Judging by the wear, she had a good life and spent her years being used as intended by her owner.

Surprisingly the other thing that’s given me a lot of inspiration is just seeing some of the clean and simple YZ builds out there are

Even this,

Or this really catches my eye.
I think it’s just because I’m really imagining my bike as that though