DTR Ignition Maps & Timing

[Calum]

That's interesting, I never tried to modify the maps on my Zeel. I suspect now that my zeel is faulty and this is the second one to have gone faulty. I've got a stock CDI so I will test that out soon and find out for sure.

[Glynn123]

@Calum the ignitech seems to work fine but I’ve had a couple little issues, it took ALOT of time to get it wired and actually doing something at the start, these are hard to diagnose faults aswell, I’m just a little lost with it all now and looking to possibly push some boundaries with a fairly budget setup, I’ve got someone local ready to do dyno sessions after lockdown. Even the standard ignition map details from a zeeltronic would give me a good start I think, I just need the degrees per 1000rpm or such. It’s very interesting how much of a difference small changes in timing affected mine, the 4DL based tune really ripped, I’m +1t front sprocket on sm wheels and it stood right up in first and second under acceleration, shame I can’t keep it from eating plugs haha

[Calum]

The zeel maps are on their site.

It was plug and play and was fine. I got one on my RS works a treat.

[Glynn123]

@Calum oh great I’ll have a look for that, you wouldn’t remember at all which one you had best success with would you? Or are they all fairly close

[Calum]

Without a dyno, the differences are negligible. I am happy to plug in my programmer to show you what I ended up with if that helps. But they are more or the less the same as far as I could tell.

[Glynn123]

@Calum if you get a spare minute that would be great cheers, I can’t seem to get the files off the zeel website, I downloaded the programmer but can’t load anything as need to plug a unit in by the looks of it. I’ve spent an hour or so adjusting my safe map to add abit of advance and try get abit more torque in the midrange for now, will see how this goes over the next few days and update this post, but yeah it would be great if I could compare against a professional such as zeel

[Calum]

The maps were just on a document I'll have a look.

[Calum]

@Glynn123 Yeah that's weird, I couldn't find it.

I received a digital copy when I emailed them so here it is.

[Glynn123]

@Calum thanks Callum, yeah I’m sitting a bit more advanced than that but a similar curve, I’ll compare better later and update, but I’m at 14 degrees timing at around 10k rpm

[mikey118]

What do you guys do for an ignition sensor/pick up & have you retained the o.e. magneto/flywheel or done something bespoke?

[Calum]

Zeeltronic is a plug and play solution

[mikey118]

@Calum Ah ok. Thanks