New member from Italy
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Hello,
Wonderful post! Lovely country to reside in. I think your country made the best of the best when it comes to 125 two strokes. Both Aprilia and Cagiva are superb choices for the rider.
The DT of course being another great choice.
What's it like picking up two strokes where you live? The EU sort of killed them with the emissions but Italian manufacturers held on for as long as possible.
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Nowadays, the anti-pollution regulations of the European Union have greatly slowed down the two-stroke market. The golden years for Italian motorcycle manufacturers are over. Some companies went bankrupt, others focused on 4-stroke motorcycles.
However, the market for used mopeds and motorcycles is still very active. Many young people and adults continue to buy two-stroke motorcycles, also keeping the tuning market active.
I don't know what will change in a few years, but at the moment the passion for two-stroke motorcycles is continuing to grow.
I believe that there will never be a definitive stop for these vehicles, and even if there were, people will continue to circulate at the cost of violating the rules. I will never give up 2-stroke motorcycles, and I hope that at least historic vehicles will be allowed to circulate. -
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@Giova @Calum @SpookDog I think the pendulum will begin to swing the other way to be honest. Here in the UK we've just had a new climate emergency/political correctness bedwetter government "elected" who want us all driving electric vehicles and heating our homes with expensive inefficient heat pumps by 2030.
It's completely unachievable and is only going to cost the ordinary person more and more money and looking at the comments on social media, more and more people are beginning to realise this. Eventually people are going to say enough is enough and turn their backs on the whole Save the Planet movement, voting for anyone who promises to rip the whole thing up. And this will result in a return to two-strokes, V8 muscle cars and gas central heating. Personally I can't wait.
I'm not completely against electric propulsion; I raced radio control cars for a number of years at a time when electric was taking over classes such as 1/8th scale buggies traditionally dominated by internal combustion engines, the IC boys made fun of us and called is tree-huggers etc., then when we started beating them the boot was on the other foot. they complained to the sport's governing body and secured their own racing class. For me it was a no-brainer as electric was cleaner, quieter, easier to work on and the acceleration was just instant. And the extra weight generated more grip/stability at some tracks (although the 500 2-stroke got the better lap time in the vid below). I think Motorsport would be a better use for the technology as if you've forgotten to charge up the worst that can happen is a crap weekend's racing, nowhere near as bad as having to waste 4 hours recharging your everyday transport. I think they want everyone to be a captive audience buying endless Soy Lattés from Starbucks and tapping away on their laptops whilst their wheel-barrow-tyred box on wheels charges in the car park.
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I think EVs for the masses is great. I for one would love an EV, most people don't do much more than 40 miles a day commute, although I just cycle that as my preference.
I've got nothing against EV motorcycling, but it's the weight. It's one of the reasons I don't have a thou or a 600. I was on my RS the other day and for its class, it's fast. Easily will nail the last bike I rode, MT07, in the twisties for sure. You simply can't beat the weight of a well designed two stroke, let alone its simplicity.
That said, they're hardly friendly for the environment. I'm currently working on another project, welded the frame up last weekend and the oil that thing dripped was rediculous!
My issue is, I don't see the motorcyles as the root cause of the problem for climate change. Small CC bikes are hardly the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases.
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In my opinion is very stupid to stop termic vehicles and force people to reply them with electric vehicles because they are not the main cause of pollution. The governments worry about stopping an 70's year vespa, which can go for 30 kilometers with a litre. But nobody talks about the trucks that travel all day and consume more than every other vehicles. Or the ships and plane, which have no anti pollution law to comply with.
And even if we stopped all this vehicles, the pollution will not disappear, because just one country like China or India pollutes as much as Europe and North America together. We should stop to trade with the countries who are destroying the world. The thing I hate the most is that the people who protest against termic vehicles are the ones who daily buy stuff on shein, temu, aliexpress, thinking that there will be no consequence on the environment.
Unluckily, who make the laws don't want to understand this.
I hope people will become more aware of the real problem, and I hope the eco-madness stops soon.
’s in Italy?
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