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  • HOTSHOT IIIH HOTSHOT III

    @SpookDog Yes I sold the '93 just after Christmas and my original unrestored '98 3NC went a couple of weeks ago. I have ridden both since recovering from my injuries, just to make sure they were both running OK before selling them. Now trying to empty the house so I can have a holiday; here's the rebuilt wheelset I listed today:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266267515368?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230105140155%26meid%3Dd3687559838a4b8b9f67149d593bc603%26pid%3D101666%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D266267515368%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2%26brand%3DYamaha&_trksid=p2380057.c101666.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3A210cd9a7-f8e6-11ed-8a7a-4e73325ac318|parentrq%3A45537e0d1880a4e9cf962254fffd9408|iid%3A1

    Many thanks for your concern buddy, I'm nearly 50 so feel very lucky to have made pretty much a full recovery. Been getting back to full fitness over the winter with walking, cycling, upper body stuff etc and did a pretty cool MTB ride up on the Ox Drove (byway from Compton Abbas Airfield/Win Green to Sixpenny Handley) the other day. This felt pretty special as the last time I was there was on a DTR in October 2021. Here's my 2002 Specialized Epic with Brain rear suspension; most of the time it's a hardtail which helps on tarmac/hills but the rear shock can tell the difference between the rider pedalling and the rear wheel hitting a bump and starts working all on its own as soon as you get onto the trails. I rebuilt the shock over the winter (which nearly made my head explode) and so far all is well!

    I'll be hanging around on here though as I like helping people out. And being helped; the other week @OllieDTR came and bought some bits off me, we were talking about headstock bearings and he said he put his bottom yoke in the freezer overnight and heated the lower bearing and it dropped straight on! All the engine bearings I fitted last summer doing that in reverse and I never thought of doing that on headstock bearings.

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    @HOTSHOT-III

    OMG why did i not think of the freezer?! So many applications! Oh well, at least I know now!…

    I think it works out £150 to get a wheel built with new rim and stainless spokes, so £200 a wheel is a really good price considering hub, bearings and tyres, ect!
    That being said I’ll give you £300 for both! 😛 …

    Being 53 this month is a strange experience, my body and my mentality are totally different ages! 😎 I feel for ya! But that MB sounds sweet, and I recon you’re doing alright if you can pedal around Cranbourne Chase bud! 👍 …

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      @HOTSHOT-III

      OMG why did i not think of the freezer?! So many applications! Oh well, at least I know now!…

      I think it works out £150 to get a wheel built with new rim and stainless spokes, so £200 a wheel is a really good price considering hub, bearings and tyres, ect!
      That being said I’ll give you £300 for both! 😛 …

      Being 53 this month is a strange experience, my body and my mentality are totally different ages! 😎 I feel for ya! But that MB sounds sweet, and I recon you’re doing alright if you can pedal around Cranbourne Chase bud! 👍 …

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      Wow! I didn’t realise you’d built the wheels yourself, fair play! 😉

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        Wow! I didn’t realise you’d built the wheels yourself, fair play! 😉

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        Wildly off topic but…

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        It’s a Ducati 125cc from the early 60’s. They should be making them today!…

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          Wildly off topic but…

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          It’s a Ducati 125cc from the early 60’s. They should be making them today!…

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          New front spindle turned up today. Just fitted it and it went in so straight and true that it was a thing of beauty 😇 No weird bind & twist as it was torqued up.
          test ride tomorrow 🐾☠️🐾

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            New front spindle turned up today. Just fitted it and it went in so straight and true that it was a thing of beauty 😇 No weird bind & twist as it was torqued up.
            test ride tomorrow 🐾☠️🐾

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            It’s made a hell of a difference! It’s tracking better than I’ve ever had it before, confidence inspiring. Well chuffed!…

            The embarrassing thing is I didn’t realise how bad it was affecting the ride. I thought of the rear wheel alignment, tyre balance and shock movement/condition before I even stumbled across the front spindle!
            A lot of the problems I’ve had I didn’t even realise I had at first. This is the first bike I’ve ridden since the early 90’s! I’ve never ridden a good one, so I wasn’t aware of what was bad or wrong 🥴 Hell of a learning curve, but very satisfying when you get there…

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              Wildly off topic but…

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              It’s a Ducati 125cc from the early 60’s. They should be making them today!…

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              @SpookDog Is that a 4-cylinder DOHC 125? Must rev to the moon! If you like that kind of thing check out Allen Millyard on YouTube, he built a Mike Hailwood Honda six replica by chopping up two Yamaha FZR250 engines to make a 375cc six:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETvldkqeKgg

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                @SpookDog Is that a 4-cylinder DOHC 125? Must rev to the moon! If you like that kind of thing check out Allen Millyard on YouTube, he built a Mike Hailwood Honda six replica by chopping up two Yamaha FZR250 engines to make a 375cc six:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETvldkqeKgg

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                @HOTSHOT-III

                It’s so sweet, no? I can’t remember the proper numbers but I think it’s 22~24bhp and 120mph!! And built in the early 1960’s…

                If it’s who I’m thinking of, then that man was truly inspired, the imagination was not the limit with him!…
                I’m only a bit familiar with his work, my old mate ‘Hairy Steve’ turned me onto his builds. He was a Z1000 nut back in the day , was into welded cranks and nitrous! Also loved his Mikuni flatslides for some reason! 🙂 …

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                  @HOTSHOT-III

                  It’s so sweet, no? I can’t remember the proper numbers but I think it’s 22~24bhp and 120mph!! And built in the early 1960’s…

                  If it’s who I’m thinking of, then that man was truly inspired, the imagination was not the limit with him!…
                  I’m only a bit familiar with his work, my old mate ‘Hairy Steve’ turned me onto his builds. He was a Z1000 nut back in the day , was into welded cranks and nitrous! Also loved his Mikuni flatslides for some reason! 🙂 …

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                  I just watched a big chunk of it and I find it hard to believe some of it! The man must be a functioning acid casualty! Seriously bends the laws of possibility. I’m guessing it’s the same bloke who did the six cylinders stuff that my bud enthused about. I have maximum respect for the man 👍 seriously…

                  Edit: just finished watching it, the man is seriously talented. Piss off Henry Cole and put this bloke on the box! 😎

                  I’ve just got to find the crankshaft clip now! 👍 …

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                    I just watched a big chunk of it and I find it hard to believe some of it! The man must be a functioning acid casualty! Seriously bends the laws of possibility. I’m guessing it’s the same bloke who did the six cylinders stuff that my bud enthused about. I have maximum respect for the man 👍 seriously…

                    Edit: just finished watching it, the man is seriously talented. Piss off Henry Cole and put this bloke on the box! 😎

                    I’ve just got to find the crankshaft clip now! 👍 …

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                    OMF! I just watched the crank build! That motor is like jewellery. Ta for the link, I can’t believe I saw this till now…

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                      OMF! I just watched the crank build! That motor is like jewellery. Ta for the link, I can’t believe I saw this till now…

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                      Though I’d give it a jet wash in celebration of the weather…

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                      Nobody is going to call it pretty, but for a 35 year old workaday mongrel it looks OK, I think anyways…

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                      It’s nice to be able to go over 50 without having to fight the bike. Since fitting the new front spindle it tracks straight and true even with hands off the bars. It doesn’t ‘dip & tuck’ the front end when cornering anymore either. I’m embarrassed it took me so long to get to the crux of the problem. In my defence nothing is straightforward with this basket case. I will get it properly righteous before the end though. I’m nothing if not stubborn ☠️ …

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                        Yes! That looks dead smart!

                        Lovely colour scheme on that bike

                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                          Yes! That looks dead smart!

                          Lovely colour scheme on that bike

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                          Just a question mainly directed to some of the older peeps! (Tho not exclusively) Did road salt during the ‘winter’ used to be so prolific and so much of a problem? I don’t remember it ever being an issue 25 years ago! Maybe it was youthful ignorance but I don’t remember any rust damage from road salt back then? Then again, the country never ground to a halt because of six inches of snow back then, did it?…
                          The last two’winters’ (I want to call them wet seasons! 😛 ) have done quite a number to my little old bike 😐 I’ve really noticed it since given it a clean up…

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                            Just a question mainly directed to some of the older peeps! (Tho not exclusively) Did road salt during the ‘winter’ used to be so prolific and so much of a problem? I don’t remember it ever being an issue 25 years ago! Maybe it was youthful ignorance but I don’t remember any rust damage from road salt back then? Then again, the country never ground to a halt because of six inches of snow back then, did it?…
                            The last two’winters’ (I want to call them wet seasons! 😛 ) have done quite a number to my little old bike 😐 I’ve really noticed it since given it a clean up…

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                            @SpookDog Well, if you had a Lancia it was rusting even in the hot climates.

                            I certainly think they are salting more now than ever. But whenever I use my bikes in the winter the one thing I do as soon as I get in is PTFE the exhaust and clean it off.

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                              @SpookDog Well, if you had a Lancia it was rusting even in the hot climates.

                              I certainly think they are salting more now than ever. But whenever I use my bikes in the winter the one thing I do as soon as I get in is PTFE the exhaust and clean it off.

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                              Or a learning! 😛 …

                              PTFE is the silicone spray, no?…

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                                Yeah I just give it a wipe down.

                                Ever day I'm learning 😛

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                                  Yeah I just give it a wipe down.

                                  Ever day I'm learning 😛

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                                  Damn! I keep on having troubles getting my headstock bearings right! . The smallest adjustment means the steering is ‘wobbly’ unless I go through the whole resettling process. I’m starting to wonder if my headstock & bottom yoke are true or not…

                                  I really need a half decent bike stand that’ll let me remove the front end, or the rear swing arm, without having to order from Germany and pay import dues cause it’s over £130 odd!
                                  Any recommendations that are based on personal usage would be appreciated…

                                  I was trying to find this in the UK

                                  [link text]https://toolsidee.co.uk/product/hbm-universal-mobile-motor-lift-black-P3991.html?ship_to=17¤cy_een=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPKiBhDvARIsACn-gzAMARdW_YnOmZzSLtV5ATCwf_3UHONQ_oQjBqBBdhl5mRTukMcFZqsaAoIWEALw_wcB(link url)

                                  But not having any luck 😐 …

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                                    Damn! I keep on having troubles getting my headstock bearings right! . The smallest adjustment means the steering is ‘wobbly’ unless I go through the whole resettling process. I’m starting to wonder if my headstock & bottom yoke are true or not…

                                    I really need a half decent bike stand that’ll let me remove the front end, or the rear swing arm, without having to order from Germany and pay import dues cause it’s over £130 odd!
                                    Any recommendations that are based on personal usage would be appreciated…

                                    I was trying to find this in the UK

                                    [link text]https://toolsidee.co.uk/product/hbm-universal-mobile-motor-lift-black-P3991.html?ship_to=17¤cy_een=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPKiBhDvARIsACn-gzAMARdW_YnOmZzSLtV5ATCwf_3UHONQ_oQjBqBBdhl5mRTukMcFZqsaAoIWEALw_wcB(link url)

                                    But not having any luck 😐 …

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                                    @SpookDog Easiest way is a MX bike stand which are also pretty excellent for chain adjustment, gearbox oil level, tyre changes etc. I always use this, then put a car axle stand underneath the boat anchor stock exhaust header pipe to raise the front but with your RH pipe you might prefer to get an assistant to push down on the seat whilst you adjust the headstock bearings:

                                    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284899641332?hash=item42555787f4:g:uHkAAOSwvvphAl85&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4AIY2SHH2P44kc0iBJ0As4Lo6D0ixuvgTj48lCG9aPznWUTeQdCX3ExZmQYCjD8dgJHytsYT2a3pBTHEetKz%2F9hXgZkCJye3S5DbQzkAiQM3bDV6vLrkFg%2BauExNukAlKuk1l0DcJmOiEHfJ0KD%2FHazj5TN5BIQPQ7e1AhMncUKj4BZD0OO3N26f6LHYYcdn1Ry7i73RtdCokCZ7JU4DsFLBJPnhm4E%2BVqc4i%2BskowvV%2BlvJ8Fvlk1XY9WQlLZAN6i0Kq3QHbXy8reZMYlQmSQHz%2B6NaylwJ4Ak3wXJ3TGHg|tkp%3ABFBMiMfBlZZi

                                    Only thing you might want to do is cover where the bike sits with something to avoid trashing the frame tubes. I used old tyres on mine chopped up and pop riveted on, the carcass is pretty tough and what's left of the tread blocks grips the frame quite well even during one of my full scrub with degreaser/wallow in WD40 episodes.

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                                      @SpookDog Easiest way is a MX bike stand which are also pretty excellent for chain adjustment, gearbox oil level, tyre changes etc. I always use this, then put a car axle stand underneath the boat anchor stock exhaust header pipe to raise the front but with your RH pipe you might prefer to get an assistant to push down on the seat whilst you adjust the headstock bearings:

                                      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284899641332?hash=item42555787f4:g:uHkAAOSwvvphAl85&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4AIY2SHH2P44kc0iBJ0As4Lo6D0ixuvgTj48lCG9aPznWUTeQdCX3ExZmQYCjD8dgJHytsYT2a3pBTHEetKz%2F9hXgZkCJye3S5DbQzkAiQM3bDV6vLrkFg%2BauExNukAlKuk1l0DcJmOiEHfJ0KD%2FHazj5TN5BIQPQ7e1AhMncUKj4BZD0OO3N26f6LHYYcdn1Ry7i73RtdCokCZ7JU4DsFLBJPnhm4E%2BVqc4i%2BskowvV%2BlvJ8Fvlk1XY9WQlLZAN6i0Kq3QHbXy8reZMYlQmSQHz%2B6NaylwJ4Ak3wXJ3TGHg|tkp%3ABFBMiMfBlZZi

                                      Only thing you might want to do is cover where the bike sits with something to avoid trashing the frame tubes. I used old tyres on mine chopped up and pop riveted on, the carcass is pretty tough and what's left of the tread blocks grips the frame quite well even during one of my full scrub with degreaser/wallow in WD40 episodes.

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                                      @HOTSHOT-III

                                      If you say that they’re usable for removing either the rear or front wheels, then that’s good enough for me 🙂
                                      I can’t keep on balancing it on a bucket of old cement and bricks while ‘fine tuning’ it with a trolley jack (to stop it sliding off!)
                                      It looks like I could fit some threaded J hook/bolts to clamp onto the foot pegs and hold it steady…

                                      Cheers bud!…

                                      PS do you know of a motorcycle engineer locally that can check the true of a crank? Also TIG welding ally casings would be nice 👍…

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                                        @HOTSHOT-III

                                        If you say that they’re usable for removing either the rear or front wheels, then that’s good enough for me 🙂
                                        I can’t keep on balancing it on a bucket of old cement and bricks while ‘fine tuning’ it with a trolley jack (to stop it sliding off!)
                                        It looks like I could fit some threaded J hook/bolts to clamp onto the foot pegs and hold it steady…

                                        Cheers bud!…

                                        PS do you know of a motorcycle engineer locally that can check the true of a crank? Also TIG welding ally casings would be nice 👍…

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                                        Any opinions on top yoke bearings? Original-roller vs taper? I’m thinking roller, though I’d be hard pressed to explain why, maybe easier to get into the right range of adjustment?…

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                                          @HOTSHOT-III

                                          If you say that they’re usable for removing either the rear or front wheels, then that’s good enough for me 🙂
                                          I can’t keep on balancing it on a bucket of old cement and bricks while ‘fine tuning’ it with a trolley jack (to stop it sliding off!)
                                          It looks like I could fit some threaded J hook/bolts to clamp onto the foot pegs and hold it steady…

                                          Cheers bud!…

                                          PS do you know of a motorcycle engineer locally that can check the true of a crank? Also TIG welding ally casings would be nice 👍…

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                                          @SpookDog No worries 👍 Not sure about crankcase repairs locally but Badfoot Customs on Mark PastyfacedlittleFuckerbergbook do some good work, I've seen them make good some vintage Maico cases which have been badly repaired previously and stuff like that.

                                          G. Arnold Motorcycles in Khyber Road in Poole have a good reputation, he does wheelbuilding and two-stroke rebores so probably has the equipment to check a crankshaft although I've never used him myself. 01202 747405. Failing that PJME or Grampian Motors in Liverpool, not local but they've been at it for years

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