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    So my indicators aint flashing they are just staying on i also have LED back break light that also has stoped coming on alltogether im i asuming right the flasher unit has blown thats why they aint flashing and why my LED break lights aint coming on? As it was fine until my indicators stoped flashing

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    • primal carnageP primal carnage

      So my indicators aint flashing they are just staying on i also have LED back break light that also has stoped coming on alltogether im i asuming right the flasher unit has blown thats why they aint flashing and why my LED break lights aint coming on? As it was fine until my indicators stoped flashing

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      @primal-carnage I would have thought the two were mutally exclusive. I am not aware of the flasher relay being tied to the brake lights.

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      • primal carnageP primal carnage

        So my indicators aint flashing they are just staying on i also have LED back break light that also has stoped coming on alltogether im i asuming right the flasher unit has blown thats why they aint flashing and why my LED break lights aint coming on? As it was fine until my indicators stoped flashing

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        @primal-carnage Do you have a multimeter or tester to help you ? Potentially you have several issues and it’s a process or elimination.
        Start simple do you have a fully charged battery ? And does this only happen when the bike is or isn’t running ? Are you running LED indicators and have you replaced the flasher relay (Standard) for an LED compatible version ? Or are you running standard lamps and relay ?
        I’ve yet to see LED indicators work with standard relay. The relay doesn’t like them full stop. But standard lamp indicators will work with an LED relay but not for long. LED indicators draw minimum amounts of power and standard lamps don’t and eventually you will burn the LED relay out if used with standard lamps.
        It may be coincidence that your LED back light has stopped working. But I would remove it connect positive and negative to a known 12v power source ( A fully charged battery ) and see if it works. If it does work, you may have a bad earth connection. Or bad negative to use the correct term. If it doesn’t work it’s knackered. Same for all of your indicators. Remove them and apply voltage individually.
        An existing old school lamp is not generally polarity conscious and will work positive negative reversed. But LED lamps and indicators are polarity conscious. But most of them will just not work if voltage is reversed. If it doesn’t work and your not sure which is positive and negative reverse the voltage and they should work. If not they may be knackered.
        Indicator relays don’t last for ever and get noisier as they fail and longer to energise. Did you notice a longer than normal delay when they were working or have they just stopped ?
        If all the lamps/LEDs work when you connect them to a known power source you may have a wiring fault or switch fault. Are all the connections clean and not loose ?
        If a lamp blows the relay unit usually will flash twice as fast on the working side. If an LED stops working it will prevent the whole circuit from working.

        Hope this helps and I’m sorry to ask more questions than give answers but try and keep it simple, one task at a time and remove parts individually. It’s a process of elimination until you find the dodgy part or parts.

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          @primal-carnage Do you have a multimeter or tester to help you ? Potentially you have several issues and it’s a process or elimination.
          Start simple do you have a fully charged battery ? And does this only happen when the bike is or isn’t running ? Are you running LED indicators and have you replaced the flasher relay (Standard) for an LED compatible version ? Or are you running standard lamps and relay ?
          I’ve yet to see LED indicators work with standard relay. The relay doesn’t like them full stop. But standard lamp indicators will work with an LED relay but not for long. LED indicators draw minimum amounts of power and standard lamps don’t and eventually you will burn the LED relay out if used with standard lamps.
          It may be coincidence that your LED back light has stopped working. But I would remove it connect positive and negative to a known 12v power source ( A fully charged battery ) and see if it works. If it does work, you may have a bad earth connection. Or bad negative to use the correct term. If it doesn’t work it’s knackered. Same for all of your indicators. Remove them and apply voltage individually.
          An existing old school lamp is not generally polarity conscious and will work positive negative reversed. But LED lamps and indicators are polarity conscious. But most of them will just not work if voltage is reversed. If it doesn’t work and your not sure which is positive and negative reverse the voltage and they should work. If not they may be knackered.
          Indicator relays don’t last for ever and get noisier as they fail and longer to energise. Did you notice a longer than normal delay when they were working or have they just stopped ?
          If all the lamps/LEDs work when you connect them to a known power source you may have a wiring fault or switch fault. Are all the connections clean and not loose ?
          If a lamp blows the relay unit usually will flash twice as fast on the working side. If an LED stops working it will prevent the whole circuit from working.

          Hope this helps and I’m sorry to ask more questions than give answers but try and keep it simple, one task at a time and remove parts individually. It’s a process of elimination until you find the dodgy part or parts.

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          @Scootjockey i have original front idecators and led back break light i only had the bike a week lol i bought it 3 weeks ago but its been in the shop ..i touched the wire behind shroud and break light worked went out noticed my indecators aint flashing and back break light aint working ..when the bike runs the idecator just stays on what ever direction i push

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          • primal carnageP primal carnage

            So my indicators aint flashing they are just staying on i also have LED back break light that also has stoped coming on alltogether im i asuming right the flasher unit has blown thats why they aint flashing and why my LED break lights aint coming on? As it was fine until my indicators stoped flashing

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            @primal-carnage I had this issue, it was a flasher relay behind the headlight. Go into your local bike shop tell them the model of your bike and they’ll sort you one out. It doesn’t really matter if it’s OEM or not as it’s just a relay. Costs £3-6 so very easy fix, just makes sure you buy two for the next time it happens!

            Ps I also have an led polisport stopping light, doesn’t make a single bit of difference.

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            • Stevie WonderS Stevie Wonder

              @primal-carnage I had this issue, it was a flasher relay behind the headlight. Go into your local bike shop tell them the model of your bike and they’ll sort you one out. It doesn’t really matter if it’s OEM or not as it’s just a relay. Costs £3-6 so very easy fix, just makes sure you buy two for the next time it happens!

              Ps I also have an led polisport stopping light, doesn’t make a single bit of difference.

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              @Stevie-Wonder yup me and you were right mate i have found ya can buy 2 on ebay for £6 i new it was that coz the break light and indecators both happend at same time ..some people say they shouldnt be connected but it just depends on how people have wired there after market break lights up don't it

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