Suzuki dr125sm wheels?
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Hello and welcome aboard!
Certainly anything is possible, I run 2008 Aprilia RS 125 wheels on my DTR.
That said, is there any particular reason why you'd think these would be a suitable fitment?
I've not seen anyone done that conversion, doesn't look impossible however. Just want to ensure the spindles are the same diameter, the brake carriers are at the correct offset and that the wheels are inlined with each other and the sprocket. Otherwise you'll going to need some spacers being made up and some brackets for the brakes.
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Hello and welcome aboard!
Certainly anything is possible, I run 2008 Aprilia RS 125 wheels on my DTR.
That said, is there any particular reason why you'd think these would be a suitable fitment?
I've not seen anyone done that conversion, doesn't look impossible however. Just want to ensure the spindles are the same diameter, the brake carriers are at the correct offset and that the wheels are inlined with each other and the sprocket. Otherwise you'll going to need some spacers being made up and some brackets for the brakes.
@Calum Ive always wanted to build a supermoto and this frankly is the only way j can afford to do the swap. i’ve looked at all the usual swaps from other models with no luck finding parts (i live in greece so the used market isn’t the greatest) and i certainly cant afford to get new rims and spokes and lace them to the DT hubs. Size wise i feel the DR wheels should be just fine, its just a matter of getting them to fit. Is there a way to make it work with the stock break calliper (with new brackets and/or new rotors)?
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Don't dismiss a set of good tyres on the DTR to get you started. Whilst I adore my SM setup, it's the brakes which makes it perform that much better. Followed close by the USDs.
I bought a trail bike after and that's a good laugh to ride as well.
My advice, set your DTR up properly before worrying about SM setup.
Get the brakes working better. Up the performance with a Zeeltronic ignition system. Sort the front forks out with the progressive spring kit.
If all of that doesn't do it for you, then look at supermoto. For simplicity, grabbing the DTX or WRX setup is your simplest solution.
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Don't dismiss a set of good tyres on the DTR to get you started. Whilst I adore my SM setup, it's the brakes which makes it perform that much better. Followed close by the USDs.
I bought a trail bike after and that's a good laugh to ride as well.
My advice, set your DTR up properly before worrying about SM setup.
Get the brakes working better. Up the performance with a Zeeltronic ignition system. Sort the front forks out with the progressive spring kit.
If all of that doesn't do it for you, then look at supermoto. For simplicity, grabbing the DTX or WRX setup is your simplest solution.
@Calum Thats honestly good advice, my bike is in shambles still anyway. Im getting ahead of myself. Quick follow-up, what is a zeeltronic ignition system and why do it need it? Also are you talking about the Hyperpro fork kit or would you suggest something different?
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The Zeeltronic is an aftermarket ignition system that is a plug in replacement for the OEM CDI.
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I have done a good number of modifications on my DT over the years. The one that made the single most difference was swapping out the ignition system. I think the Athena 170 kit probably trumps that, but it's a fair few dollars more expensive and therefore not in everyone's price range. I picked one up used in good condition in the UK for £60. But I also purchased one brand new from Germany for £450, which I thought was an absolute bargain.
Yeah, I believe it's the Hyperpro, I believe @SpookDog knows more as he's fitted one to his. I run WR450F USDs on my DTR and have no experience with the Hyperpro kit, or progressive springs in general.
Ultimately, there is a lot to be said of the DTR in stock trim.
Many many many years ago (~10 years) I remember trading bikes with my mate for a quick blast one summer and I must admit, I had more fun on his pogostick of a DTR for the five minutes I was on it, than I had on mine all day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYA6M3we_M0
For general commuting and ownership, I'd have my setup all day long. But my gawd for a quick blast down the lanes, his bike was superb fun
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Okay thanks. Sheesh lots to learn and lots to do! I should probably begin a new thread purely asking for help while rebuilding this thing cause this sure has gone in a different direction than just SM wheels and i sure have a ton more questions. One last thing however, mine is a 1996 4BL bike, I was under the impression this model has one of the better CDIs (?) would the zeeltronic make that much of a difference that it should be moved up in my list of priorities? Thanks again.
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Okay thanks. Sheesh lots to learn and lots to do! I should probably begin a new thread purely asking for help while rebuilding this thing cause this sure has gone in a different direction than just SM wheels and i sure have a ton more questions. One last thing however, mine is a 1996 4BL bike, I was under the impression this model has one of the better CDIs (?) would the zeeltronic make that much of a difference that it should be moved up in my list of priorities? Thanks again.
@GiannisT It will make a difference, especially once you start playing with exhaust pipes and powervalve timings.
Given that yours is an earlier model however (and probably more importantly not a UK model) I'd weigh it lower down your priority list.
Keep it on your radar as it's a must have once you start tuning, but for now focus on making the most out of what you have and deciding where best to spend your cash.
My money will be on tyres/brakes and go from there. If you need more oompf then you can start small with things like carbon fibre reeds etc.
I used to run these on my DTR
Avon Distanzias
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Okay thanks. Sheesh lots to learn and lots to do! I should probably begin a new thread purely asking for help while rebuilding this thing cause this sure has gone in a different direction than just SM wheels and i sure have a ton more questions. One last thing however, mine is a 1996 4BL bike, I was under the impression this model has one of the better CDIs (?) would the zeeltronic make that much of a difference that it should be moved up in my list of priorities? Thanks again.
@GiannisT said in Suzuki dr125sm wheels?:
Okay thanks. Sheesh lots to learn and lots to do! I should probably begin a new thread purely asking for help while rebuilding this thing cause this sure has gone in a different direction than just SM wheels and i sure have a ton more questions. One last thing however, mine is a 1996 4BL bike, I was under the impression this model has one of the better CDIs (?) would the zeeltronic make that much of a difference that it should be moved up in my list of priorities? Thanks again.
Now I saw that you are a fellow countryman.
I'll list from more work to fit to less,by price is up to you there are still a lot stuff to become SM parts at car.gr
TZR125
TZR250 (if you are tuned,little heavier wheels)
TDR125
WRX125
DTX125
I suggest you to stick to Yamaha family if possible.
For example,I used TZR250 3MA wheels,I needed custom spacers front and back,custom front axle,back was used the one from stock DTR, half a centimeter machined from the rear brake bracket to align for the disc and half a centimeter from the sprocket hub to align the sprocket.
1cm thick bracket for the front brake to move for the bigger disc,front brake disc from TZR reverted to align with the brake caliper.If your CDI says 3NC it's the best stock open CDI you can have,If you are tuned enough next best stock by little is the 4DL,small difference and requires a little wiring mod for everything to work.
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@GiannisT said in Suzuki dr125sm wheels?:
Okay thanks. Sheesh lots to learn and lots to do! I should probably begin a new thread purely asking for help while rebuilding this thing cause this sure has gone in a different direction than just SM wheels and i sure have a ton more questions. One last thing however, mine is a 1996 4BL bike, I was under the impression this model has one of the better CDIs (?) would the zeeltronic make that much of a difference that it should be moved up in my list of priorities? Thanks again.
Now I saw that you are a fellow countryman.
I'll list from more work to fit to less,by price is up to you there are still a lot stuff to become SM parts at car.gr
TZR125
TZR250 (if you are tuned,little heavier wheels)
TDR125
WRX125
DTX125
I suggest you to stick to Yamaha family if possible.
For example,I used TZR250 3MA wheels,I needed custom spacers front and back,custom front axle,back was used the one from stock DTR, half a centimeter machined from the rear brake bracket to align for the disc and half a centimeter from the sprocket hub to align the sprocket.
1cm thick bracket for the front brake to move for the bigger disc,front brake disc from TZR reverted to align with the brake caliper.If your CDI says 3NC it's the best stock open CDI you can have,If you are tuned enough next best stock by little is the 4DL,small difference and requires a little wiring mod for everything to work.
@MadGyver Its always nice to find fellow compatriots in every community. Thanks a lot for the tips I’ll explore those options. Do you by any chance know of any decent mechanics in athens that deal with 2-strokes? My engine was seized so the cylinder has sure seen better days and is in need of at least some honing.
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@GiannisT I live on an island and I learned to do the repairs in everything my self,there are very few mechanics that know 2 strokes the right way for tuning,for stock factory repairs find one that service's enduro 2T bikers.
An old timer mechanic is what you need.
If you learn yourself everything you just need a machinery shop owner friendship.
