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  • C chris

    @SpookDog
    going to stock jets is no messing around I think
    the inlet looks okay
    I bought it years ago, rode it for 2 month without anything unusual and put it to a six year sleep, till now.

    The idea of this start was to burn in the new exhaust paint, check if the cooling system that I partly redid was proof and get the motor warm for an oil change after

    I let it run for ca 20 min till the cooling system was leaking on a hose

    This run was with the 6+ years old crumbling airfilter, what I realised only later

    im from ger

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    @chris
    Guden Tag then bud! 😎

    Going back to standard would be bestest, but if it was running good 6 years ago I’d leave it until you work out the problem with ticking over @ 5000rpm! Even having no filter wouldn’t cause it.
    Have you removed all the filter bits and cleaned out the carb since finding it, are you sure the slide is closing fully? No cable catching on an adjuster?
    I usually spray a bit of carb/brake cleaner around suspected areas while the bike ticks over. If there’s a leak it usually settles down to normal revs...
    It really does sound like a big air leak between the casing and the carb...

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      @chris
      Guden Tag then bud! 😎

      Going back to standard would be bestest, but if it was running good 6 years ago I’d leave it until you work out the problem with ticking over @ 5000rpm! Even having no filter wouldn’t cause it.
      Have you removed all the filter bits and cleaned out the carb since finding it, are you sure the slide is closing fully? No cable catching on an adjuster?
      I usually spray a bit of carb/brake cleaner around suspected areas while the bike ticks over. If there’s a leak it usually settles down to normal revs...
      It really does sound like a big air leak between the casing and the carb...

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      chris
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      @SpookDog
      Danke sehr

      After that I cleaned the airbox and put a new and oiled filter in there.
      Then I opened the carb, 5 screws were done and had to be drilled out, was a 2 hour pain in the ass work, I will use better screws with hexagon drive soon
      I wondered how clean the carb was inside
      The housing parts etc. are now ultrasonic cleaned and the spare parts available are ordered

      Do the gaskets for the housing parts have to be oiled during assembly?

      What would be the correct torque for the housing screws?

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        @chris
        Guden Tag then bud! 😎

        Going back to standard would be bestest, but if it was running good 6 years ago I’d leave it until you work out the problem with ticking over @ 5000rpm! Even having no filter wouldn’t cause it.
        Have you removed all the filter bits and cleaned out the carb since finding it, are you sure the slide is closing fully? No cable catching on an adjuster?
        I usually spray a bit of carb/brake cleaner around suspected areas while the bike ticks over. If there’s a leak it usually settles down to normal revs...
        It really does sound like a big air leak between the casing and the carb...

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        chris
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        @SpookDog

        Now in hindsight I remember the choke's nut was loose
        I didn't pay any attention to that, maybe that could be the cause of the air leak you mentioned.

        **Do the gaskets for the housing parts have to be oiled/greased during assembly?

        What would be the correct torque for the housing screws?**

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        • C chris

          @SpookDog

          Now in hindsight I remember the choke's nut was loose
          I didn't pay any attention to that, maybe that could be the cause of the air leak you mentioned.

          **Do the gaskets for the housing parts have to be oiled/greased during assembly?

          What would be the correct torque for the housing screws?**

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          @chris
          I’d use a small amount of grease myself. The bolts I do by instinct. You’d need a mikuni manual or search their site. It’d be almost unmeasurable unless you have a very delicate torque wrench...

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            @chris
            I’d use a small amount of grease myself. The bolts I do by instinct. You’d need a mikuni manual or search their site. It’d be almost unmeasurable unless you have a very delicate torque wrench...

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            chris
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            @SpookDog
            Yes, precisely because it is difficult to estimate, I always use a torque wrench on my rides to tighten if possible and the values ​​from the manufacturer are available
            Mikuni manuals do not have this info apparently

            I guess 5nm would be max for the m4 screws, and about 3nm for the brass stuff, but official data would be nicer

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            • C chris

              @SpookDog
              Yes, precisely because it is difficult to estimate, I always use a torque wrench on my rides to tighten if possible and the values ​​from the manufacturer are available
              Mikuni manuals do not have this info apparently

              I guess 5nm would be max for the m4 screws, and about 3nm for the brass stuff, but official data would be nicer

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              @chris
              As long as the threads are all clean, I do them all finger tight, then 1/4 to 1/2 turn. As long as they are all the same. That’s what’s important...

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                Calum
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                Yeah torque wrenches have their uses, but with soft metals you have to be really careful, much better to do it by feel. It's not something that undergoes massss of stress so torquing it isn't absolutely necessary.

                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  chris
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                  I found new informations, here are the essential tightening torques:
                  Float chamber screws: 2.0 Nm
                  Main jet: 2.0 Nm
                  Slide cover screws: 2.0Nm
                  Screw slide lever: 3.5Nm
                  Drain screw: 2.0Nm

                  carb housing gasket at https://www.gasketguru.co.uk/

                  Also i found the throttle-spring at http://www.motocarb.com/tm-parts.html

                  still looking for the nozzle assembly

                  @Calum

                  can you allow to edit posts, then I could reformat opening post and edit this infos? could be nice for others also looking for parts and stuff

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                  • C chris

                    I found new informations, here are the essential tightening torques:
                    Float chamber screws: 2.0 Nm
                    Main jet: 2.0 Nm
                    Slide cover screws: 2.0Nm
                    Screw slide lever: 3.5Nm
                    Drain screw: 2.0Nm

                    carb housing gasket at https://www.gasketguru.co.uk/

                    Also i found the throttle-spring at http://www.motocarb.com/tm-parts.html

                    still looking for the nozzle assembly

                    @Calum

                    can you allow to edit posts, then I could reformat opening post and edit this infos? could be nice for others also looking for parts and stuff

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                    Calum
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                    @chris Create a new thread with the appropriate title and formatting, and I will sticky the post for you bud!

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      @chris Create a new thread with the appropriate title and formatting, and I will sticky the post for you bud!

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                      chris
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                      @Calum
                      okay, will do that later when the carb is complete

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