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    Bananper
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    So the coolant is going from the radiator and into the expansion bottle, ive tried to remove water from the bottle so there is just a little bit left, topped up the radiator, and then i bleeded it. Same thing happens once i put the radiator cap on.

    I suspect the headgasket, so i ordered new athena gasket set. But i does not really make sense to me as the bike does not overheat and the water is not hot either.

    Suggestions?

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      Bike will overheat, once the coolant has been evaporated.

      The other one is faulty radiator cap. It's supposed to handle up to 1.3 bar of pressure. if it cannot maintain this, it will overflow into the expansion bottle.

      Either get a new radiator cap, or switch to waterless coolant, which won't expand as much nor cause as much pressure on the system.

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        Bike will overheat, once the coolant has been evaporated.

        The other one is faulty radiator cap. It's supposed to handle up to 1.3 bar of pressure. if it cannot maintain this, it will overflow into the expansion bottle.

        Either get a new radiator cap, or switch to waterless coolant, which won't expand as much nor cause as much pressure on the system.

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        @Calum any way to check the cap? The seals on it looks good

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          @Calum any way to check the cap? The seals on it looks good

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          Calum
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          @Bananper Apply 1.3 bar of pressure to it and see if it opens.

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            Bike will overheat, once the coolant has been evaporated.

            The other one is faulty radiator cap. It's supposed to handle up to 1.3 bar of pressure. if it cannot maintain this, it will overflow into the expansion bottle.

            Either get a new radiator cap, or switch to waterless coolant, which won't expand as much nor cause as much pressure on the system.

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            Bananper
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            @Calum https://youtu.be/MoESLzTLdd8
            I put pressure on it and it just leaked out water and air

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            • CalumC Calum

              @Bananper Apply 1.3 bar of pressure to it and see if it opens.

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              Bananper
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              @Calum this explains why the overflow bottle is filling up right?

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                @Calum https://youtu.be/MoESLzTLdd8
                I put pressure on it and it just leaked out water and air

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                @Bananper Which end did you apply pressure. Obviously it protects from the radiator to the overflow, the other way around. Otherwise how would the water make its way back into the engine.

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                  @Bananper Which end did you apply pressure. Obviously it protects from the radiator to the overflow, the other way around. Otherwise how would the water make its way back into the engine.

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                  @Calum applied it on the thing close to the radiator cap, where the line to the expansion bottle goes

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                  • CalumC Calum

                    @Bananper Which end did you apply pressure. Obviously it protects from the radiator to the overflow, the other way around. Otherwise how would the water make its way back into the engine.

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                    @Calum used this method https://youtu.be/QVQqqjkXjnA

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                      @Calum used this method https://youtu.be/QVQqqjkXjnA

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                      Calum
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                      @Bananper Fair, I wouldn't have thought that would work.

                      Well, looks like it's the radiator cap then.

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                        @Calum used this method https://youtu.be/QVQqqjkXjnA

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                        @Bananper Besides, the spring preload isn't in that direction, It's in the opposite direction.

                        I don't know anything really about it, other than, when they go it will cause premature water to overflow.

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                          @Bananper Besides, the spring preload isn't in that direction, It's in the opposite direction.

                          I don't know anything really about it, other than, when they go it will cause premature water to overflow.

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                          @Calum so it could be a gasket issue?

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                            @Calum so it could be a gasket issue?

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                            @Bananper Go path of least resistance. I'd be inclined to change the radiator cap first, and then the head gasket.

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                              If you change the head gasket, skim your cylinder head cause it's likely warped.
                              This can be done easily at home, get a glass chopping board and put some 1000 grit sandpaper on it, rub the head around it in a figure of 8 motion. If the heads really bad I usually use a oil stone first. Repeat while adding water to the wet and dry paper until whole head surface is even and shiny. Torque the head down, run the bike up to temperature, and then torque it down once again.

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                              • CalumC Calum

                                @Bananper Go path of least resistance. I'd be inclined to change the radiator cap first, and then the head gasket.

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                                @Calum ordered brand new radiator cap, but i have to wait for at least a week. Would it work to plug the line to the overflow so it does not fill up the bottle, just as a temporary fix?
                                Or will this cause big problems?

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                                  @Calum ordered brand new radiator cap, but i have to wait for at least a week. Would it work to plug the line to the overflow so it does not fill up the bottle, just as a temporary fix?
                                  Or will this cause big problems?

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                                  @Bananper i wouldn't

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                                    Pick up a cap from the Scrappy, any car one with the same pressure will work aslong as it has the old style rad cap. You'll pay Penny's for it.

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