So Close!...
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I’m a fan! If I where you I’d almost be tempted to keep the current DT you have relatively stock and just enjoy it as it is as it’s a clean bike and then build the other frame up.
Although I know how things go and realistically that just never happens
I see now as well we do actually have near enough the same front ends! I think yours are off a WR or slighter later year though?
Is that a 91’ swingarm too?. Very similar to the 200WR’s just cleaner (no tabs for chain guard etc) + the welds are also much better.
I’m not mistake but I’m pretty sure you can run most swingarms 88/89-91 relatively easilyLovely bike though and looking forward to seeing more of what’s happening, must say I’m jealous of you having such luxuries as a spare frame and all that room to work
On the contrary I do however get to ride less then legal places borderline legally which is why i was going to say as it’s still essentially an off-road bike go and take it off road if ya can.
I admit to having more then a couple rides around my neighbourhood before my bike was legal but most of the time I just quietly popped off Into the fields, a lot of the time if you mind your own business being just an older guy with an old bike people will know you’re harmless.
Odds on you’ll even find someone who’s interested in the bike too! -
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Sorry, I’ve just had a very weird moment trying to post anything! It’s just coming up with an ‘Error Forbidden’ bar at the bottom of the screen. What is?...
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@declan said in So Close!...:
@calum served him right for not having antivirus installed
I chuckled.
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I only got this in May, but it’s MoT time tomorrow!
Eye exam in the afternoon so I can read a number plate @21 metres. CBT in a week with luck...
Am insured, so only tax needed as well...
It’s been 25 years since I was last legal on a bike, so I’m pretty excited...
@spookdog Thats a solid one! You really did a great job on this one. The color looks nice. Drive safe bud.
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@spookdog Thats a solid one! You really did a great job on this one. The color looks nice. Drive safe bud.
Went for the first proper ride today, did 70 miles @ not over 45 mph. Been checking out the plug for mixture since the rebuild. Keeping the rpm’s @ around 4K, not been over 5K @ the most! Got 107 miles since rebuild, 400 to go
What I’d really like to know is what happens @ 7000 rpm’s? Does this little thing wake up and really come alive?! It’s got really good bottom end performance, zips up to 40-45 real easy, curtisy of a working power valve servo I suspect. Loads better than old RD125lc’s I’ve ridden that were all or nothing (& slip that clutch!!)...
Running in can be a right chore. Thank fook for B roads and rain free days 🤪 ...
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Went for the first proper ride today, did 70 miles @ not over 45 mph. Been checking out the plug for mixture since the rebuild. Keeping the rpm’s @ around 4K, not been over 5K @ the most! Got 107 miles since rebuild, 400 to go
What I’d really like to know is what happens @ 7000 rpm’s? Does this little thing wake up and really come alive?! It’s got really good bottom end performance, zips up to 40-45 real easy, curtisy of a working power valve servo I suspect. Loads better than old RD125lc’s I’ve ridden that were all or nothing (& slip that clutch!!)...
Running in can be a right chore. Thank fook for B roads and rain free days 🤪 ...
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@calum
Awwwhhh man! I was under the impression that the front wheel got homesick for heaven in first and second, just under throttle! Or is that just stories I’ve heard coined from youthful exuberance?!
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@spookdog DTR's are SLLLOOOWWW!
I don't know what else to say. I have always been disappointed with their performance. Even when tuned they are still slow.
@calum
Hey! I grew up on Vespas & Lambrettas! It’s all comparative. It’s still good fun is good enough for me
Damn! I almost forgot, I had a DT125e (e was for enduro then) once upon a 1980-something. That was 55~60 flat out. I enjoyed that thing too, even though it was almost as untuned as a scooter
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@calum
Hey! I grew up on Vespas & Lambrettas! It’s all comparative. It’s still good fun is good enough for meDamn! I almost forgot, I had a DT125e (e was for enduro then) once upon a 1980-something. That was 55~60 flat out. I enjoyed that thing too, even though it was almost as untuned as a scooter
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@spookdog Was out today with my brother on his Vespa T5. Rapid little scooter would run rings around my DT all day long.
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@calum
They were the ‘new’ ones that came out in the 90’s? Looked like a PX125 had been raped by a Sinclair c5?@spookdog That's lost on me.
I still get confused between Lambrettas and Vespas if I'm honest.
They all look the same to me.
It's quick though, no getting around that. Definitely faster than my DTR.
My Dad is maaadd on scoots. He's got 4 Vespas and one Model D Lambretta. I think it's great, he is full on reliving his youth, was going to all the local meets etc and catching up with the old gang. Brilliant
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@spookdog That's lost on me.
I still get confused between Lambrettas and Vespas if I'm honest.
They all look the same to me.
It's quick though, no getting around that. Definitely faster than my DTR.
My Dad is maaadd on scoots. He's got 4 Vespas and one Model D Lambretta. I think it's great, he is full on reliving his youth, was going to all the local meets etc and catching up with the old gang. Brilliant
@calum
It was just a little joke we used to say about t5’s when they appeared on the scene. Most people wouldn’t go near them cause they weren’t old skool . They only used to do 60 though, so I’m guessing your bruvs is a later one?
I had a few Vespa 200’s with 30mm delortto & fresco exhausts on. They would keep up with an LC till about 55-60 then the LC would walk away. My lambrettas were pretty much the same. The scooter scene was really good, everything from mods to scooter scum, I know a lot of people who still keep it up from my generation and older. I’m glad your dad is still going on strong.. -
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It was just a little joke we used to say about t5’s when they appeared on the scene. Most people wouldn’t go near them cause they weren’t old skool . They only used to do 60 though, so I’m guessing your bruvs is a later one?
I had a few Vespa 200’s with 30mm delortto & fresco exhausts on. They would keep up with an LC till about 55-60 then the LC would walk away. My lambrettas were pretty much the same. The scooter scene was really good, everything from mods to scooter scum, I know a lot of people who still keep it up from my generation and older. I’m glad your dad is still going on strong.. -
@spookdog Yeah sure. His is modified but it's fast for what it is.
Yeah the scene is still thriving today, mainly old timers mind you. The younger generation are more into their 4 bangers
Don’t be ageist
Loads of people my age love two strokes, it’s just no longer a viable option for someone young to own one anymore. It’s why when I pull up on the DT all boys on their euro 4 bangers wanna come have a look and talk to me but they’ll always say whilst they’ve always wanted one they could never own one. It’s like theres a two stroke generation gap or something- they’re expensive to buy, maintain and run. 2) highly sought after (by thieves and riders alike) 3) there’s less and less people the same age with the knowledge to maintain them. 4) you usually pay a premium on insurance for owning one as a young person depending where you live.
- with it now looking like you’ll no longer be able to import from France it means what bikes are left are gonna be SORN and left in a garage and forgotten about for 10 years. So good luck finding one that seems viable to use as a daily.
It honestly feels like these days owning a smoker of any sort is more an act of love then it is a mode of transport
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Don’t be ageist
Loads of people my age love two strokes, it’s just no longer a viable option for someone young to own one anymore. It’s why when I pull up on the DT all boys on their euro 4 bangers wanna come have a look and talk to me but they’ll always say whilst they’ve always wanted one they could never own one. It’s like theres a two stroke generation gap or something- they’re expensive to buy, maintain and run. 2) highly sought after (by thieves and riders alike) 3) there’s less and less people the same age with the knowledge to maintain them. 4) you usually pay a premium on insurance for owning one as a young person depending where you live.
- with it now looking like you’ll no longer be able to import from France it means what bikes are left are gonna be SORN and left in a garage and forgotten about for 10 years. So good luck finding one that seems viable to use as a daily.
It honestly feels like these days owning a smoker of any sort is more an act of love then it is a mode of transport
@Stevie-Wonder Age has nothing to do with it. The younger generation are more into their four bangers.
I see plenty of kids riding around on brand new KTM RC 125's and RS4 125s where the two stroke variants are MUCH cheaper to buy.
The fact of the matter is, kids these days actively seek out the Four Stroke market. The market is flooded with quality two strokes at the moment.
Insurance was never a factor for me, you're talking £300 a year to insure when I was at school. And most people I knew were driving around in Corsa's paying £1800 a year.
I also see lots of KTM Dukes/RC's stolen my way. So theft is pretty common regardless of engine configuration.
I've never considered Two Stroke 125 as expensive to run/maintained. Again with the aforementioned Corsas costing a lot more. BUT Four Stroke 125's are MINT on fuel and I'd recommend something like a Honda Grom if you're just commuting around a city.
But again you're talking £3500 to buy one of these and they're tinyIf the younger generation wanted a smoker then they'd get one.
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