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I sure as shit have had problems removing the air box. It was mainly (IIRC!) because the rubber mudguard bolts had seized in so the nuts spun. It wouldn’t let me separate the battery tray section…
Reminds me! I’ve got to epoxy the weird nuts back in place!…
Have a good time this x~mas everyone!…
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@SpookDog I had the same problem for years and had it just "cable tied" to the frame at the top. But when the bike went a rebuild I drilled it out and used a bolt that isn't made of cheese.
I meant the rubber mud flap that ties the air box to the battery tray! But yes, I need many weld~fills, drill & tap fixes all over my frame!
…Slow going:
Every part I go to put back on needs cleaning at least, usually mending and a coat of satin black. I just spent 3 hours on the speedo and rev counter! Oh well, nobody ever said it was going to be easy!
…Pick up, shake head, wire brush, paint! Seems to be my mantra!…
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I meant the rubber mud flap that ties the air box to the battery tray! But yes, I need many weld~fills, drill & tap fixes all over my frame!
…Slow going:
Every part I go to put back on needs cleaning at least, usually mending and a coat of satin black. I just spent 3 hours on the speedo and rev counter! Oh well, nobody ever said it was going to be easy!
…Pick up, shake head, wire brush, paint! Seems to be my mantra!…
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Emergency! I need 2 x 70mm M6! bolts to fit my stator on! If you have any please let me know…
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Emergency! I need 2 x 70mm M6! bolts to fit my stator on! If you have any please let me know…
Cheers Ollie! I PM’d my addy…
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Does anyone have any pics of a bike with the seat & tank off that shows where the wiring loom is supposed to be situated/routed? Big help if possible!
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I fuxin dread this bit! 35 year old wire and all the previous ‘mowners’ tinkering!…
For some reason this is taking a lot longer than I thought it would! I spend more time staring at it than I do assembling it! Then mending & cleaning whatever part I pick up to bolt on!
Anybody want to do a lottery as to when it’s together and riding? How many daze?!
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Cheers Ollie! I PM’d my addy…
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Does anyone have any pics of a bike with the seat & tank off that shows where the wiring loom is supposed to be situated/routed? Big help if possible!
…I fuxin dread this bit! 35 year old wire and all the previous ‘mowners’ tinkering!…
For some reason this is taking a lot longer than I thought it would! I spend more time staring at it than I do assembling it! Then mending & cleaning whatever part I pick up to bolt on!
Anybody want to do a lottery as to when it’s together and riding? How many daze?!
…@SpookDog Here you go bud, hot off the Yamaha presses:
IIRC the biggest PITA is the expansion tank hose where it goes round the back of the airbox, the original tube is shaped to fit around these bends but mine were always knackered so I experimented with various eBay tubes. I think the best results I had were with that clear braided stuff (like garden hose but in about 8mm ID) but even if you stick to this the quality varies, once I had to put some 4mm ID tube inside that to stop it getting kinked.
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@SpookDog Here you go bud, hot off the Yamaha presses:
IIRC the biggest PITA is the expansion tank hose where it goes round the back of the airbox, the original tube is shaped to fit around these bends but mine were always knackered so I experimented with various eBay tubes. I think the best results I had were with that clear braided stuff (like garden hose but in about 8mm ID) but even if you stick to this the quality varies, once I had to put some 4mm ID tube inside that to stop it getting kinked.
Cheers bud! I forgot to fuxin fit that! I’ve actually got a good condition one to go on there. It’s amazing how so many hours work can look like so little progress!
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Cheers Ollie! I PM’d my addy…
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Does anyone have any pics of a bike with the seat & tank off that shows where the wiring loom is supposed to be situated/routed? Big help if possible!
…I fuxin dread this bit! 35 year old wire and all the previous ‘mowners’ tinkering!…
For some reason this is taking a lot longer than I thought it would! I spend more time staring at it than I do assembling it! Then mending & cleaning whatever part I pick up to bolt on!
Anybody want to do a lottery as to when it’s together and riding? How many daze?!
…@SpookDog said in So Close!...:
Cheers Ollie! I PM’d my addy…
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Does anyone have any pics of a bike with the seat & tank off that shows where the wiring loom is supposed to be situated/routed? Big help if possible!
…I fuxin dread this bit! 35 year old wire and all the previous ‘mowners’ tinkering!…
For some reason this is taking a lot longer than I thought it would! I spend more time staring at it than I do assembling it! Then mending & cleaning whatever part I pick up to bolt on!
Anybody want to do a lottery as to when it’s together and riding? How many daze?!
…The loom on the DT125R is on the opposite side,the way you have is for the DT200R.
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@SpookDog said in So Close!...:
Cheers Ollie! I PM’d my addy…
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Does anyone have any pics of a bike with the seat & tank off that shows where the wiring loom is supposed to be situated/routed? Big help if possible!
…I fuxin dread this bit! 35 year old wire and all the previous ‘mowners’ tinkering!…
For some reason this is taking a lot longer than I thought it would! I spend more time staring at it than I do assembling it! Then mending & cleaning whatever part I pick up to bolt on!
Anybody want to do a lottery as to when it’s together and riding? How many daze?!
…The loom on the DT125R is on the opposite side,the way you have is for the DT200R.
But it will probably be ok.That’s interesting to know. That’s the side it came on when I got the bike. I was just never sure of it…
PS: Is there supposed to be plastic between the air box and the taillight/number plate unit, to protect the frame?…
Edit: WhatTF is it with that expansion chamber pipe that goes from the radiator?! It’s left me feeling kind of ‘compromised’
nasty little fuxor!… -
That’s interesting to know. That’s the side it came on when I got the bike. I was just never sure of it…
PS: Is there supposed to be plastic between the air box and the taillight/number plate unit, to protect the frame?…
Edit: WhatTF is it with that expansion chamber pipe that goes from the radiator?! It’s left me feeling kind of ‘compromised’
nasty little fuxor!…@SpookDog said in So Close!...:
That’s interesting to know. That’s the side it came on when I got the bike. I was just never sure of it…
PS: Is there supposed to be plastic between the air box and the taillight/number plate unit, to protect the frame?…
Edit: WhatTF is it with that expansion chamber pipe that goes from the radiator?! It’s left me feeling kind of ‘compromised’
nasty little fuxor!…Unfortunately there is no plastic protection for that part of the frame.
It's essential the protection there,a lot of debris hit the frame from the wheel there.
I am designing something for that problem but haven't resourced the right plastic for the job,if I can not find I'll have to weld smaller pieces together.Which pipe do you mean?
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@SpookDog said in So Close!...:
That’s interesting to know. That’s the side it came on when I got the bike. I was just never sure of it…
PS: Is there supposed to be plastic between the air box and the taillight/number plate unit, to protect the frame?…
Edit: WhatTF is it with that expansion chamber pipe that goes from the radiator?! It’s left me feeling kind of ‘compromised’
nasty little fuxor!…Unfortunately there is no plastic protection for that part of the frame.
It's essential the protection there,a lot of debris hit the frame from the wheel there.
I am designing something for that problem but haven't resourced the right plastic for the job,if I can not find I'll have to weld smaller pieces together.Which pipe do you mean?
Radiator to expansion tank, the rubber pipe is a bit of a beeyatch
…I’d use the plastic that garages use for their shampoo and other car-wash stuff. White 5 gallon butts…
These things. We used to use them for water when I lived on site…
Very strong and durable. Easy to heat and mold (sp?) to basic curve/shapes, which is all that space needs. Make a form and knock them out on fleabay! … -
That’s interesting to know. That’s the side it came on when I got the bike. I was just never sure of it…
PS: Is there supposed to be plastic between the air box and the taillight/number plate unit, to protect the frame?…
Edit: WhatTF is it with that expansion chamber pipe that goes from the radiator?! It’s left me feeling kind of ‘compromised’
nasty little fuxor!…@SpookDog That expansion tank tube describes a tortuous route around the top of the airbox yes. Whatever you do don't be tempted to route it underneath the airbox; I've known people to do this and the chain will cut the tube in half when the rear suspension is fully compressed (in fact the upper chain roller stops it from doing this to the airbox).
@MadGyver It would protect the frame if you could design something to fit behind the airbox there. After I wash my bikes I like to throw old towels over the wheels to protect the tyres and brakes, then absolutely saturate places like that area, the front of
and underneath the engine etc. with WD40 to protect the frame, wiring etc., then wipe off the excess. Get loads in the radiator core as those fins are wafer thin and corrode away to powder if you leave salt on them. Doing this also helps the degreaser to cut through the road grime and dirt next time.It can also be beneficial to attach some approximately 10mm thick foam to the lateral ridge on the seat base where it butts up against the top rear of the airbox, this gives the air intake area a little more protection against mud and water ingress. Yamaha did this when the DTR was new but in a bit of an afterthought kind of way; new foam and some 3M VHB double sided tape and nothing will get past it even greenlaning through a swamp.
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@SpookDog That expansion tank tube describes a tortuous route around the top of the airbox yes. Whatever you do don't be tempted to route it underneath the airbox; I've known people to do this and the chain will cut the tube in half when the rear suspension is fully compressed (in fact the upper chain roller stops it from doing this to the airbox).
@MadGyver It would protect the frame if you could design something to fit behind the airbox there. After I wash my bikes I like to throw old towels over the wheels to protect the tyres and brakes, then absolutely saturate places like that area, the front of
and underneath the engine etc. with WD40 to protect the frame, wiring etc., then wipe off the excess. Get loads in the radiator core as those fins are wafer thin and corrode away to powder if you leave salt on them. Doing this also helps the degreaser to cut through the road grime and dirt next time.It can also be beneficial to attach some approximately 10mm thick foam to the lateral ridge on the seat base where it butts up against the top rear of the airbox, this gives the air intake area a little more protection against mud and water ingress. Yamaha did this when the DTR was new but in a bit of an afterthought kind of way; new foam and some 3M VHB double sided tape and nothing will get past it even greenlaning through a swamp.
My tube does go under!
I like the idea of both the foam and a plastic ‘shroud’ underneath. The amount of ultra fine dirt that gets thrown up (in road water) and into the top of the air box isn’t funny. The stress it causes the seat tubing is bad if you ride in winter salt conditions…
If a bikes a keeper you have to consider it’s longevity…
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My tube does go under!
I like the idea of both the foam and a plastic ‘shroud’ underneath. The amount of ultra fine dirt that gets thrown up (in road water) and into the top of the air box isn’t funny. The stress it causes the seat tubing is bad if you ride in winter salt conditions…
If a bikes a keeper you have to consider it’s longevity…
Throttle cable outer is badly cracked. Getting the heat shrink tube in through the throttle rubber was interesting
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Should keep oil in and water out once shrunk!…
Edit: Thank fux that never caught fire!
Couple wrinkles to heat out but well happy with!…
Edit: Top bit done as well. I’m happy with the new lease of life it’s given this cable…
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Throttle cable outer is badly cracked. Getting the heat shrink tube in through the throttle rubber was interesting
…Should keep oil in and water out once shrunk!…
Edit: Thank fux that never caught fire!
Couple wrinkles to heat out but well happy with!…
Edit: Top bit done as well. I’m happy with the new lease of life it’s given this cable…
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Fux me! My old carb rubber inlet sure spoiled me! It used to slip in and out like… well, use your imagination
The new one needs a freakin’ crowbar to get it to pop in!…Edit: Wow! Blowtorch and grease!…
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@SpookDog That expansion tank tube describes a tortuous route around the top of the airbox yes. Whatever you do don't be tempted to route it underneath the airbox; I've known people to do this and the chain will cut the tube in half when the rear suspension is fully compressed (in fact the upper chain roller stops it from doing this to the airbox).
@MadGyver It would protect the frame if you could design something to fit behind the airbox there. After I wash my bikes I like to throw old towels over the wheels to protect the tyres and brakes, then absolutely saturate places like that area, the front of
and underneath the engine etc. with WD40 to protect the frame, wiring etc., then wipe off the excess. Get loads in the radiator core as those fins are wafer thin and corrode away to powder if you leave salt on them. Doing this also helps the degreaser to cut through the road grime and dirt next time.It can also be beneficial to attach some approximately 10mm thick foam to the lateral ridge on the seat base where it butts up against the top rear of the airbox, this gives the air intake area a little more protection against mud and water ingress. Yamaha did this when the DTR was new but in a bit of an afterthought kind of way; new foam and some 3M VHB double sided tape and nothing will get past it even greenlaning through a swamp.
Hey bud! I’m glad & sad you sold your last Dtr. I’m glad it’s gone to some new blood who’s hopefully going to wrench on it himself? You should get him to post here…
I’m gutted that it’s because the roads have turned into a ‘not fun’ and dangerous place to be. I don’t think it’s just the Rose tint of yoof, I’m sure they used to be different. I never used to fear for my safety, let alone my life, ever! Now I seldom get a trip where I don’t have a few ‘moments’…
I can remember when I got my first dog, a little German Shepard. I used to walk around at nights and have the whole world to myself up on the Milldown in Blandford, now at night it looks like close encounters! So many LED lit dog collars everywhere! Every other person has a dog now!
The point is that the roads are like that now, so many more drivers than there used to be. It’s impossible to find a quiet stretch to have a moment to yourself! There’s always a car up your ass and an idiot or two waiting down the road. It’s almost become a chore to go out on the road. Even beauty spots like zig~zag through Cranbourne chase have clogged up with white van commuters!…Is a shame
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Hey bud! I’m glad & sad you sold your last Dtr. I’m glad it’s gone to some new blood who’s hopefully going to wrench on it himself? You should get him to post here…
I’m gutted that it’s because the roads have turned into a ‘not fun’ and dangerous place to be. I don’t think it’s just the Rose tint of yoof, I’m sure they used to be different. I never used to fear for my safety, let alone my life, ever! Now I seldom get a trip where I don’t have a few ‘moments’…
I can remember when I got my first dog, a little German Shepard. I used to walk around at nights and have the whole world to myself up on the Milldown in Blandford, now at night it looks like close encounters! So many LED lit dog collars everywhere! Every other person has a dog now!
The point is that the roads are like that now, so many more drivers than there used to be. It’s impossible to find a quiet stretch to have a moment to yourself! There’s always a car up your ass and an idiot or two waiting down the road. It’s almost become a chore to go out on the road. Even beauty spots like zig~zag through Cranbourne chase have clogged up with white van commuters!…Is a shame
…@SpookDog Yes it was a shame to see "Greta" go (noisy, irritating, aimed squarely at the youth market and responsible for thousands of them bunking off school all over the world), she was my favourite of all three due to her patina of being the highest mileage and the fastest of all of them. I think there must be differences between the 3MB (Greta) and 3NC (the others) ignition advance curves as there were places round here such as steep hills where even a French full-power 3NC would struggle to accelerate but Greta would just keep revving.
On the bright side the lad was pretty likeable and clued up, and he said he'll join this forum (hi Liam
). I think he'll make a decent bike out of it and enjoy it the way Yamaha intended.I feel the same way about the roads; it's even a struggle trying to keep to 30 and 40 limits in the car as you always seem to get someone tailgating you. And then when you go past the National Speed Limit sign and accelerate to 60, they disappear because they just want to do 40-45mph everywhere like they're in their armchair at home; we've reached a point in the West where people are too bone idle to use a labour-saving device (i.e a motor vehicle) correctly.
And the selfishness is jaw-dropping. I try and do all my trips anywhere in the evening when there are fewer people on the roads, if you go out when it's busy it's just a never-ending conveyor belt of argumentative tw@ts.The last few times I've gone to Bridport to see relatives I've headed over Bulbarrow Hill, then through all these villages north of Dorchester which is the way I used to go on the bike. Proper DTR roads; not many people about (apart from tractors), bumpy, gravelly single track lanes just begging for long-travel suspension and trail bike visibility. And peoples' attitudes always seemed a bit different to me going that way as well, they were happy to move over and let me go where a lot of drivers on main roads don't like being overtaken. I don't think even a TDR250 would be any more fun than a DTR around here so maybe a potential route to get away from the Rat Race when yours is back together! It's coming along nicely, always feels good when it's rolling again
Yeah toight!
