Dt170 vs ktm exc 125

[Irongamer727]

@ninja the question is where the Dt is?

[scrimsmustang]

Husqvarna Husaberg TM 125 they will a piss all over a DTR, The fastest 125 trail bike I have come across by far is the Honda CRM that makes a DTR seem like a 50 lol with or without a 170 kit or a WR200 engine the CRM will piss all over a DTR200 or WR200 once derestricted.

[Calum]

I gotta get myself that Honda lol

[scrimsmustang]

@calum I sold it to a shop in Lancashire called Bikeonic for 2100 fook knows how much they want for it though.

[scrimsmustang]

They bought my TSR aswell, also better than a DTR in my opinion, handle better 10 times better brakes and suspension but cant touch the CRM lol

[Calum]

@scrimsmustang Lol. I believe it coming from you. If anyone else said it I'd have thought they were just bashing the DTR lol.

It's not as pretty as the DTR or honda though.

[Irongamer727]

@scrimsmustang don't think it will win over a wr200 but you're right, they are powerful. I Wonder how Honda manages to squeeze out 30 bhp and how Yamaha only ~20 bhp. Seems odd.

[declan]

@irongamer727 just researched the Kdx 200 36hp that’s crazy

[DTR+NSR]

I doubt the crm has a genuine 30bhp. I've got a nsr125 with basically the same engine as the crm. Doesn't 'feel' that much faster than my dtr, wether that's just down to the gearing, as the nsr has alot longer legs.

[Calum]

@declan Yeah right, KDX's were poo! I think that number has been massaged slightly. But you know, not impossible figure.

[declan]

@calum what year you on about mate it seems the old 89 ish were 36 then the “newer” ones around 26

[Calum]

@declan Old 89 ones being 36. Definitely not then lol.

I dunno, I could be talking absolute brown. I've been on a 1991 KDX125 and it wasn't exactly savage. And they reckon they are 24bhp. Which again I doubt.

But as said, long time ago and I have no reference any more.

[Irongamer727]

@calum but you believe a crm is 30 bhp and a Yamaha dt 20 bhp? How is that difference even possible?

[declan]

@irongamer727 well you gotta understand that bikes aren’t always in competition with each other it’s just the way it is for example a ktm 525 I thought would be a beast but it’s no where near as fast as any 450 not that I’ve ridden either bikes

[Calum]

@irongamer727 No, I never said the CRM was 30 lol

Pretty sure no one did.

[Irongamer727]

@declan huh? A Ktm 530 is most definitely faster than a Ktm 450. More torque and more power and basically the same weight.

[Irongamer727]

@calum The fact you did not correct me made me wonder

[Calum]

@irongamer727 I won't lie, I thought you were Trolling lmao

[declan]

@calum what’s preventing my am6 engine from reaching say cr80 performance say I put a cr80 head on there magicaly get the crank to fit with the carb etc would it essentially be nearly as fast as one like what’s the limiting factors apart from fitment of Honda parts

[Calum]

@declan Cylinder wall thickness I expect. Only so much porting you can do.

You could get the DT to be like a YZ. Just needs blue printing.