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  • S SpookDog
    21 Jan 2023, 17:19

    @SpookDog

    Just found loads of fleabay listings that includes the ring with the rubber. Can’t believe that I never saw them before 😐

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    SpookDog
    wrote on 22 Jan 2023, 18:36 last edited by
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    Had to replace the seal on the disc side fork with the old ones I took out! Pyramid parts don’t seem to stand the test of time 😐 Put the spare set of new top & bottom bushes in while I was at it. Gonna have to do the bushes in the other fork to match. The 27mm hex drive makes it so easy to dismantle the forks as long as the Allen bolt hasn’t seized to the aluminium fork bottom…

    I still have a newer set of forks to rebuild with new top& bottom bushes & original seals and progressive springs, but I’m waiting for spring and money to get the new fork bottoms and yokes painted. As well as sourcing the seals for the headstock bearings…

    The RH exhaust is an absolute dream. It’s breathing like an athlete with a beautiful exhaust note. Could be a touch quieter for my taste, but I’m an old git now, not a boy racer 😛 it’s just not worth the ‘pull factor’ for me…

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    • S SpookDog
      22 Jan 2023, 18:36

      Had to replace the seal on the disc side fork with the old ones I took out! Pyramid parts don’t seem to stand the test of time 😐 Put the spare set of new top & bottom bushes in while I was at it. Gonna have to do the bushes in the other fork to match. The 27mm hex drive makes it so easy to dismantle the forks as long as the Allen bolt hasn’t seized to the aluminium fork bottom…

      I still have a newer set of forks to rebuild with new top& bottom bushes & original seals and progressive springs, but I’m waiting for spring and money to get the new fork bottoms and yokes painted. As well as sourcing the seals for the headstock bearings…

      The RH exhaust is an absolute dream. It’s breathing like an athlete with a beautiful exhaust note. Could be a touch quieter for my taste, but I’m an old git now, not a boy racer 😛 it’s just not worth the ‘pull factor’ for me…

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      SpookDog
      wrote on 28 Jan 2023, 20:20 last edited by SpookDog
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      Is there a kind of co~relationship between people who buy DEP exhaust’s and people who fall off? (especially to the right hand side?) 😛 Everyone I seem to see for sale is scraped and dented! I’ve not seen any other second hand dtr exhaust brand that seems to be so similarly afflicted! ☠️

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      I know you don’t really ride your bikes to dirtiness, but any tips on cleaning road filth from off of stainless? 🙂

      I really think I need help cleaning my shit up!….
      You really don’t want to see the underside! 💩 …

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      • S SpookDog
        28 Jan 2023, 20:20

        Is there a kind of co~relationship between people who buy DEP exhaust’s and people who fall off? (especially to the right hand side?) 😛 Everyone I seem to see for sale is scraped and dented! I’ve not seen any other second hand dtr exhaust brand that seems to be so similarly afflicted! ☠️

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        I know you don’t really ride your bikes to dirtiness, but any tips on cleaning road filth from off of stainless? 🙂

        I really think I need help cleaning my shit up!….
        You really don’t want to see the underside! 💩 …

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        mhbikesnbits
        wrote on 29 Jan 2023, 21:24 last edited by
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        @SpookDog Would love to hear how them progressive fork springs are not really heard much about peoples experience with them

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        • M mhbikesnbits
          29 Jan 2023, 21:24

          @SpookDog Would love to hear how them progressive fork springs are not really heard much about peoples experience with them

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          SpookDog
          wrote on 29 Jan 2023, 23:54 last edited by
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          @mhbikesnbits

          Hopefully, soon as spring breaks! 🙂
          Having problems with condensation in the tank from the -0 cold at the moment. I ran it onto reserve on Wednesday night and ended up having to clean the plug and drain the carb bowl about 5-6 times just to get 15 miles, not counting the cut out and roll then bump moments. It’s been down on power since. I need to clean the carb and get another exorcism I think 🥺
          If it isn’t one thing it’s another. I kinda wish I was rich enough to buy a running bike 😐

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          • S SpookDog
            29 Jan 2023, 23:54

            @mhbikesnbits

            Hopefully, soon as spring breaks! 🙂
            Having problems with condensation in the tank from the -0 cold at the moment. I ran it onto reserve on Wednesday night and ended up having to clean the plug and drain the carb bowl about 5-6 times just to get 15 miles, not counting the cut out and roll then bump moments. It’s been down on power since. I need to clean the carb and get another exorcism I think 🥺
            If it isn’t one thing it’s another. I kinda wish I was rich enough to buy a running bike 😐

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            SpookDog
            wrote on 30 Jan 2023, 22:29 last edited by
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            @SpookDog

            Whom I kidding? Bringing them back to life is so satisfying, it’s just keeping them running that’s a bitch! 😶

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            • S SpookDog
              30 Jan 2023, 22:29

              @SpookDog

              Whom I kidding? Bringing them back to life is so satisfying, it’s just keeping them running that’s a bitch! 😶

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              Calum
              wrote on 31 Jan 2023, 09:04 last edited by
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              @SpookDog It is odd, it would be interesting if you took my bike.

              In the last 13 years of ownership it has never let me down and always got me home!

              Sure I've had head gasket go on me and one time the ignition was playing up, but no matter how slow it was running it always got me home in all weathers and was used daily.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                31 Jan 2023, 09:04

                @SpookDog It is odd, it would be interesting if you took my bike.

                In the last 13 years of ownership it has never let me down and always got me home!

                Sure I've had head gasket go on me and one time the ignition was playing up, but no matter how slow it was running it always got me home in all weathers and was used daily.

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                SpookDog
                wrote on 31 Jan 2023, 12:59 last edited by
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                @Calum

                The other night was the only time it has physically conked out. It still got me where I was going, albeit exhaustingly!…

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                • S SpookDog
                  31 Jan 2023, 12:59

                  @Calum

                  The other night was the only time it has physically conked out. It still got me where I was going, albeit exhaustingly!…

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                  SpookDog
                  wrote on 31 Jan 2023, 16:16 last edited by
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                  I bet I could find a problem with your bike 🙂
                  I’d start with why you have to run it without the thermostat 😛 and why it was running at near 100•c (which embarrassingly I thought was normal 🤫 at the time)…

                  Things have settled down for me since I solved the head gasket blowing issue with the pilot jet. The thing is that I’ve done over 20,000 miles while it was missing and popping enough to blow the head gasket, I’m wondering what kind of effect it’s had on the con rod or/and crank?! Maybe why my bike doesn’t like revving up?…

                  My bike was a basket case when I got it, and one problem hid a multitude of others that I couldn’t see till the previous was fixed…

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                  • S SpookDog
                    31 Jan 2023, 16:16

                    I bet I could find a problem with your bike 🙂
                    I’d start with why you have to run it without the thermostat 😛 and why it was running at near 100•c (which embarrassingly I thought was normal 🤫 at the time)…

                    Things have settled down for me since I solved the head gasket blowing issue with the pilot jet. The thing is that I’ve done over 20,000 miles while it was missing and popping enough to blow the head gasket, I’m wondering what kind of effect it’s had on the con rod or/and crank?! Maybe why my bike doesn’t like revving up?…

                    My bike was a basket case when I got it, and one problem hid a multitude of others that I couldn’t see till the previous was fixed…

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                    Calum
                    wrote on 1 Feb 2023, 08:47 last edited by
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                    @SpookDog Well it's not stock is it. I'm running a ported Athena 170 kit, with aftermarket radiators and waterless coolant (notorious for raising the temperature). It would benefit from a lower temperature thermostat then it would be grand, but as it is it just takes a while to warm up.

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                    • C Calum
                      1 Feb 2023, 08:47

                      @SpookDog Well it's not stock is it. I'm running a ported Athena 170 kit, with aftermarket radiators and waterless coolant (notorious for raising the temperature). It would benefit from a lower temperature thermostat then it would be grand, but as it is it just takes a while to warm up.

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                      wrote on 1 Feb 2023, 17:51 last edited by SpookDog 2 Jan 2023, 20:59
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                      @Calum

                      Worst temp I had was when I was running lean, was using jets for my year bike, not the year carb. As soon as I upped the mixture it was fine…
                      Two strokes are still mysterious to me 🙂 …

                      I don’t think a lower thermostat wouldn’t solve anything (a working one would if the previous was bust). If the radiator (or 2 in your case?) isn’t dissipating the amount of heat generated in the cylinder, then the coolant temp will keep rising until it reaches the equilibrium that the rad can dispel.
                      Bigger, tuned engines don’t produce higher temps, just more BTU’s~heat…
                      Does that make sense?…

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                      • S SpookDog
                        1 Feb 2023, 17:51

                        @Calum

                        Worst temp I had was when I was running lean, was using jets for my year bike, not the year carb. As soon as I upped the mixture it was fine…
                        Two strokes are still mysterious to me 🙂 …

                        I don’t think a lower thermostat wouldn’t solve anything (a working one would if the previous was bust). If the radiator (or 2 in your case?) isn’t dissipating the amount of heat generated in the cylinder, then the coolant temp will keep rising until it reaches the equilibrium that the rad can dispel.
                        Bigger, tuned engines don’t produce higher temps, just more BTU’s~heat…
                        Does that make sense?…

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                        Calum
                        wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 09:05 last edited by
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                        @SpookDog Right, so if the engines producing more heat and the cooling isn't adjusted then it'll run hotter. I am running significantly more power than stock probably an extra 50% over the stock power. Plus the bike is a lot heavier than stock with the ally wheels and USDs.

                        A lower thermostat would definitely help, it's quite common on tuned cars to run lower temp stats to enable the cooling system to function correctly.

                        Since removing the stat the bike equalises perfectly at 60 degrees, just takes a while to get there.

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                          2 Feb 2023, 09:05

                          @SpookDog Right, so if the engines producing more heat and the cooling isn't adjusted then it'll run hotter. I am running significantly more power than stock probably an extra 50% over the stock power. Plus the bike is a lot heavier than stock with the ally wheels and USDs.

                          A lower thermostat would definitely help, it's quite common on tuned cars to run lower temp stats to enable the cooling system to function correctly.

                          Since removing the stat the bike equalises perfectly at 60 degrees, just takes a while to get there.

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                          wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 16:34 last edited by
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                          @Calum
                          Then I’d guess your old stat was broke?…

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                            2 Feb 2023, 16:34

                            @Calum
                            Then I’d guess your old stat was broke?…

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                            Calum
                            wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 17:29 last edited by
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                            @SpookDog I tested it and it was opening fine.

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                            • C Calum
                              2 Feb 2023, 17:29

                              @SpookDog I tested it and it was opening fine.

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                              SpookDog
                              wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 19:29 last edited by
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                              @Calum

                              @ the right temp? It’s 65 iirc, (I learnt from you 😛) it’s no good if it opens @ 100•c

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                              • S SpookDog
                                2 Feb 2023, 19:29

                                @Calum

                                @ the right temp? It’s 65 iirc, (I learnt from you 😛) it’s no good if it opens @ 100•c

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                                SpookDog
                                wrote on 2 Feb 2023, 20:18 last edited by SpookDog 2 Mar 2023, 19:20
                                #401

                                Cleaned out the carb and found bubbles of water still present in the bowl and around the main jet. Power is back to ‘normal’ though it still doesn’t want to rev freely up to and beyond 7K. I’ve got a few plans forming in mind, including swapping out another CDI I gotten (wish the original fitted had markings!) unplugging and ‘pinning’ the power valve to see if there’s a difference…

                                I’m really not sure about the crank after 20,000 miles of riding while missing at low throttle. The bearings are ok but that doesn’t mean that the Conrod is true…

                                I do have another good crank and casings, ect that I’ve been planning on building a ‘new’ bottom end lump. I just need to be able to focus on it without other problems stacking up 🫠

                                Remember to check the power valve servo closer, it appears to be opening at 7000 . But could be higher…

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                                  2 Feb 2023, 19:29

                                  @Calum

                                  @ the right temp? It’s 65 iirc, (I learnt from you 😛) it’s no good if it opens @ 100•c

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                                  wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 09:25 last edited by
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                                  @SpookDog From the digital readout it was reaching about 85 degrees then cooling down to 80 then spiking. So it would fluctuate around 80-85. But one day I made it literally a mile after leaving home and it went to 110. So I turned back and removed it and its been perfect ever since. Just takes a while to warm up.

                                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                    3 Feb 2023, 09:25

                                    @SpookDog From the digital readout it was reaching about 85 degrees then cooling down to 80 then spiking. So it would fluctuate around 80-85. But one day I made it literally a mile after leaving home and it went to 110. So I turned back and removed it and its been perfect ever since. Just takes a while to warm up.

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                                    wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 12:49 last edited by SpookDog 2 Mar 2023, 12:55
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                                    @Calum

                                    80-85 is the absolute wide open temp isn’t it it should open at 60-5. Definitely sounds like the stat failed to me, especially if removing it solved the problem. I’ve got a couple known good spares if you want to try one before paying out for something you think might not work…

                                    Is your temp probe on the head or radiator or?

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                                      3 Feb 2023, 12:49

                                      @Calum

                                      80-85 is the absolute wide open temp isn’t it it should open at 60-5. Definitely sounds like the stat failed to me, especially if removing it solved the problem. I’ve got a couple known good spares if you want to try one before paying out for something you think might not work…

                                      Is your temp probe on the head or radiator or?

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                                      Calum
                                      wrote on 3 Feb 2023, 19:55 last edited by
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                                      @SpookDog I have a few thermostats lying around. As I say I tested it in the stove and it opens and closes fine, but don't know the temperature.

                                      The temperature is measured at the head with a digital read out.

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                                        3 Feb 2023, 19:55

                                        @SpookDog I have a few thermostats lying around. As I say I tested it in the stove and it opens and closes fine, but don't know the temperature.

                                        The temperature is measured at the head with a digital read out.

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                                        wrote on 4 Feb 2023, 18:41 last edited by
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                                        @Calum

                                        Best (I recon!) way to do it is in a pan of water gently/gradually brought up to temp with a thermometer in the water right next to the thermostat (suspended in the water with wire)…

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                                          4 Feb 2023, 18:41

                                          @Calum

                                          Best (I recon!) way to do it is in a pan of water gently/gradually brought up to temp with a thermometer in the water right next to the thermostat (suspended in the water with wire)…

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                                          SpookDog
                                          wrote on 4 Feb 2023, 18:49 last edited by SpookDog 2 May 2023, 17:49
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                                          @SpookDog

                                          Remember to remove flywheel cover and check rotation for any play/noise at TDC or during rotation. A random tapping/knocking noise has appeared during tick over since removing the oil pump/replacing clutch side main seal. Or since water in carb cut out episode…

                                          Also fit rubber mounts and P clip mount to exhaust…

                                          PS remember to turn off the lights when adjusting the carb, the drag caused by them is significant…

                                          PPS didn’t remove the oil pump!!
                                          Piston was a tight good fit when assembled. Am getting Tappety sound at TDC when turning flywheel by hand. Will check more through the exhaust outlet when pipes off for rubber mounting…

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