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  • S SpookDog
    11 Dec 2023, 12:41

    @MadGyver

    Nitro, What is dat? Model fuel?…

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    SpookDog
    wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 13:18 last edited by SpookDog 12 Nov 2023, 13:19
    #799

    Do the piston rings go a particular way on an Athena piston? I can’t see any difference between them. The only thing that might be a marking is a [ kind of shape, but horizontal. That’s only on one ring though…

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    • S SpookDog
      11 Dec 2023, 13:18

      Do the piston rings go a particular way on an Athena piston? I can’t see any difference between them. The only thing that might be a marking is a [ kind of shape, but horizontal. That’s only on one ring though…

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      Calum
      wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 13:32 last edited by
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      @SpookDog No? I just put them in so that the text was facing upwards and that the ring end gaps met the dowels in the piston grooves.

      Wossner are notorious for leaving one of the ring end gaps out of spec, gives the fitter flexibility to dial it in. The Athena ones I done recently were both spot on, but needless to say, you should check it against the spec.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • S SpookDog
        11 Dec 2023, 13:18

        Do the piston rings go a particular way on an Athena piston? I can’t see any difference between them. The only thing that might be a marking is a [ kind of shape, but horizontal. That’s only on one ring though…

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        SpookDog
        wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 15:44 last edited by
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        Oh well, I chucked it on anyways!…

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        I did have help from a friend though…

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        Taught me how to feather the throttle 🙂 …

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          Calum
          wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 16:52 last edited by
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          Don't chuck it on FFS! Amatuers! Place it on lovingly. Caress it, hold it, love it!

          Does look good though! I mean fair play to you and your workbench! You're doing it guerilla stylie.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            11 Dec 2023, 16:52

            Don't chuck it on FFS! Amatuers! Place it on lovingly. Caress it, hold it, love it!

            Does look good though! I mean fair play to you and your workbench! You're doing it guerilla stylie.

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            SpookDog
            wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 16:57 last edited by SpookDog 12 Nov 2023, 17:09
            #803

            @Calum

            Chuck is a term of affection from me! 🙂 Seriously! All new bearings and seals throughout, new Jamasil crank. I can’t afford to be ‘blasé’ 😳 I even removed, cleaned the threads, greased and re-inserted the barrel base studs and dowels to a tightness that they’re removable in the future, if needs be. The head studs I always remove and service…

            Labour of Dove 🤔 …

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            It’s getting there! Little by little, weather permitting…

            WTFux! it’s just started raining! 🤪 …

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              Calum
              wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 17:10 last edited by
              #804

              Doing a great job bud! Keep it up.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                11 Dec 2023, 17:10

                Doing a great job bud! Keep it up.

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                SpookDog
                wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 17:11 last edited by SpookDog 12 Nov 2023, 17:32
                #805

                @Calum

                The umbrella? 😜 …

                Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

                PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

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                • S SpookDog
                  11 Dec 2023, 17:11

                  @Calum

                  The umbrella? 😜 …

                  Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

                  PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

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                  SpookDog
                  wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 19:09 last edited by SpookDog 12 Nov 2023, 19:11
                  #806

                  Ready to drop in. All torqued and tight! Only the 2T pump left to fettle, I’ve got 3 to find the bestest one. I can finish off the tank of premix anyways 🙂 …

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                  Just gonna replace the rear shock while the swingarm bolt is out. It doesn’t feel broken but it was crusty 30,000 miles ago. So, yeah! There is that…

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                  • S SpookDog
                    11 Dec 2023, 12:41

                    @MadGyver

                    Nitro, What is dat? Model fuel?…

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                    MadGyver
                    wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 19:55 last edited by
                    #807

                    @SpookDog said in So Close!...:

                    @MadGyver

                    Nitro, What is dat? Model fuel?…

                    Nitro paint thinner. It dillutes paints and a lot other uses.

                    I need my tools and a pile of junk.....

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                    • S SpookDog
                      11 Dec 2023, 17:11

                      @Calum

                      The umbrella? 😜 …

                      Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

                      PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

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                      MadGyver
                      wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 20:12 last edited by
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                      @SpookDog said in So Close!...:

                      @Calum

                      The umbrella? 😜 …

                      Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

                      PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

                      To fit the small end bearing from the Blaster you need to file each side inside of the piston 0,5mm. To be on the safe side I removed 0,75mm from each side for when everything heats and diolates.

                      I need my tools and a pile of junk.....

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                      • M MadGyver
                        11 Dec 2023, 20:12

                        @SpookDog said in So Close!...:

                        @Calum

                        The umbrella? 😜 …

                        Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

                        PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

                        To fit the small end bearing from the Blaster you need to file each side inside of the piston 0,5mm. To be on the safe side I removed 0,75mm from each side for when everything heats and diolates.

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                        SpookDog
                        wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 20:23 last edited by SpookDog 12 Nov 2023, 20:32
                        #809

                        @MadGyver

                        Fux! I wish I’d known that before I buttoned it all up! 😉 …
                        I’ve been on a bit of a tight deadline with it, weather wise. Not to mention the strange noises I’ve been ignoring coming from my existing engine. I can’t wait to do an autopsy on it!…

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                        • S SpookDog
                          11 Dec 2023, 20:23

                          @MadGyver

                          Fux! I wish I’d known that before I buttoned it all up! 😉 …
                          I’ve been on a bit of a tight deadline with it, weather wise. Not to mention the strange noises I’ve been ignoring coming from my existing engine. I can’t wait to do an autopsy on it!…

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                          SpookDog
                          wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 16:35 last edited by SpookDog 12 Dec 2023, 16:39
                          #810

                          A little tip for people like me who have to ‘apply’ bearings with a hammer and ‘drift’ 🙂

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                          Use a jubilee clip to hold in place whatever tool you are using, in my case a screwdriver…

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                          Make sure it’s clear of the bearing, especially the race. It allows more of the force to be applied downwards, without worrying so much about slipping and destroying the roller~race. It makes the blows less ‘tentative’, more effective. It really makes a difference…

                          If you have a suitable tube then ignore me! 😉 …

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                            Calum
                            wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 16:52 last edited by
                            #811

                            I just bought the stearing stem bearing tool.

                            https://www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/products/apico-steering-stem-bearing-installation-tool?variation=51559

                            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                              12 Dec 2023, 16:52

                              I just bought the stearing stem bearing tool.

                              https://www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/products/apico-steering-stem-bearing-installation-tool?variation=51559

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                              SpookDog
                              wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 17:32 last edited by SpookDog 12 Dec 2023, 17:33
                              #812

                              @Calum

                              Then ignore me! 😜 …

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                              Just found this while looking for some connector blocks and trying to find the proper gauge/amp wire:

                              early loom

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                                12 Dec 2023, 17:32

                                @Calum

                                Then ignore me! 😜 …

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                                Just found this while looking for some connector blocks and trying to find the proper gauge/amp wire:

                                early loom

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                                OllieDTR
                                wrote on 13 Dec 2023, 19:46 last edited by
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                                @SpookDog

                                He makes all types of wiring looms for the dts and he’s local to us

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                                  12 Dec 2023, 17:32

                                  @Calum

                                  Then ignore me! 😜 …

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                                  Just found this while looking for some connector blocks and trying to find the proper gauge/amp wire:

                                  early loom

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                                  SpookDog
                                  wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 13:35 last edited by SpookDog
                                  #814

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                                  Just trying to muster energy to strip down for the new motor. Poor old frame hasn’t been tret well by three winters worth of road salt!…

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                                  Fuxin surface rust everywhere. I dread to think of inside the tubing. I need to get it dipped and coated professionally this spring-summer…

                                  I’d like to have a different frame to work on really, If anyone knows of a usable frame for sale, please let me know. 👍

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                                    16 Dec 2023, 13:35

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                                    Just trying to muster energy to strip down for the new motor. Poor old frame hasn’t been tret well by three winters worth of road salt!…

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                                    Fuxin surface rust everywhere. I dread to think of inside the tubing. I need to get it dipped and coated professionally this spring-summer…

                                    I’d like to have a different frame to work on really, If anyone knows of a usable frame for sale, please let me know. 👍

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                                    Calum
                                    wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 14:06 last edited by
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                                    @SpookDog I was thinking of getting another frame. I'd like to reshell my '05 into an '88 🤣 By 2028 it'll be MOT/Tax exempt 😛

                                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                      16 Dec 2023, 14:06

                                      @SpookDog I was thinking of getting another frame. I'd like to reshell my '05 into an '88 🤣 By 2028 it'll be MOT/Tax exempt 😛

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                                      SpookDog
                                      wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 15:55 last edited by SpookDog
                                      #816

                                      @Calum

                                      Like you need to pinch pennies! 😜

                                      I don’t care what year it is as long as it’s not an RE…

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                                      Going to peices!…

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                                        16 Dec 2023, 15:55

                                        @Calum

                                        Like you need to pinch pennies! 😜

                                        I don’t care what year it is as long as it’s not an RE…

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                                        Going to peices!…

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                                        Calum
                                        wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 16:45 last edited by
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                                        @SpookDog It's not about money, it's the act of having to keep going there. You should have seen the state of my bike when I got it back from them last time. UTTER MONKEYS! Dangerous it was to ride home. And the response "Yeah it would be!" It was fucking sound when I gave it to you 'ya cunts!

                                        Anyway, fuming to say the least. And dude! I live a VERY cheap life. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs (like my coffee), don't drive, don't ride my motorbikes (I cycle/run everywhere). I don't go on holiday and I eat baked beans most evenings, not literally but the cheaper the better. What's the result, a few shiny bolts come pay day. If you examine any photo I take of my bikes, they're usually in the same spots. So I pinch every penny for my addiction.

                                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                          16 Dec 2023, 16:45

                                          @SpookDog It's not about money, it's the act of having to keep going there. You should have seen the state of my bike when I got it back from them last time. UTTER MONKEYS! Dangerous it was to ride home. And the response "Yeah it would be!" It was fucking sound when I gave it to you 'ya cunts!

                                          Anyway, fuming to say the least. And dude! I live a VERY cheap life. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs (like my coffee), don't drive, don't ride my motorbikes (I cycle/run everywhere). I don't go on holiday and I eat baked beans most evenings, not literally but the cheaper the better. What's the result, a few shiny bolts come pay day. If you examine any photo I take of my bikes, they're usually in the same spots. So I pinch every penny for my addiction.

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                                          SpookDog
                                          wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 16:49 last edited by SpookDog
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                                          @Calum

                                          Woah there Tiger! I didn’t mean to hit a nerve! Honest! 🙂
                                          ☮️ peace!…

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                                          I’m getting there! I hate working in the damp though! Everything is filthy. I’ve had to scrub up my hands four times already!…

                                          PS RE frames are different aren’t they?…

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