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Dt170 vs ktm exc 125

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  • NINJAN NINJA

    @calum So your still routing for the EXC as top dog then ???

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    Calum
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    @ninja There are other factors that determine this for me.

    Mint cojdition MX 1800 pounds. Mint condition exc....considerably more.

    For the extra dough you could have a much more unique, tractable bike if you went with the Aprilia.

    Numbers aren't everything, but if you play top trumps I think the aprilia has more going for tit. Availability of parts, the tuning potential. The room for improvement, the list goes on.

    If I wasn't interested in tuning, and had the money, I would get an exc. But I am and I don't so the aprilia gets my vote.

    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      @ninja There are other factors that determine this for me.

      Mint cojdition MX 1800 pounds. Mint condition exc....considerably more.

      For the extra dough you could have a much more unique, tractable bike if you went with the Aprilia.

      Numbers aren't everything, but if you play top trumps I think the aprilia has more going for tit. Availability of parts, the tuning potential. The room for improvement, the list goes on.

      If I wasn't interested in tuning, and had the money, I would get an exc. But I am and I don't so the aprilia gets my vote.

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      @calum OK sound reasoning, but forget all that and just imagine a straight drag race over a 1/4 mile. Which bike would take the honours ???

      SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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      • NINJAN NINJA

        @calum OK sound reasoning, but forget all that and just imagine a straight drag race over a 1/4 mile. Which bike would take the honours ???

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        @ninja Surely the Aprilia has better top end. A drag race hardly seems fair.

        To be fair, way back when, I was out with my brother.

        I was on my DT, my brother was on his RS.

        We came across a KTM and he absolutely decimated it. But there's nothing to say that the KTM wasn't about to give up the ghost.

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          @ninja Surely the Aprilia has better top end. A drag race hardly seems fair.

          To be fair, way back when, I was out with my brother.

          I was on my DT, my brother was on his RS.

          We came across a KTM and he absolutely decimated it. But there's nothing to say that the KTM wasn't about to give up the ghost.

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          @calum The 1/4 mile 'Drag race' is just to give it a set start and finish point, aka from one set of lights to another street race.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VB1PGy3oLw

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          • NINJAN NINJA

            @calum The 1/4 mile 'Drag race' is just to give it a set start and finish point, aka from one set of lights to another street race.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VB1PGy3oLw

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            @ninja Shit video that. Baron can't ride for shit and just cries the whole time. I did see that a long time ago.

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              @ninja Shit video that. Baron can't ride for shit and just cries the whole time. I did see that a long time ago.

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              @calum This one any better ???

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFEzDz-7F44

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              • CalumC Calum

                @ninja Shit video that. Baron can't ride for shit and just cries the whole time. I did see that a long time ago.

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                @calum Or this one;

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSYbAi-TGo

                SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                • NINJAN NINJA

                  @calum Or this one;

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSYbAi-TGo

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                  @ninja said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSYbAi-TGo

                  this one is a crap comparison the RS with no rave valve feels like it has no balls till its going I like the DT pinned but the RS pinned nooo way its crap

                  "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                  • NINJAN NINJA

                    @calum This one any better ???

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFEzDz-7F44

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                    @ninja Oh deary me Ninja. How embarrassing for that KTM Ey?

                    I was not expecting that.

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                    • terry.tzT terry.tz

                      @ninja said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSYbAi-TGo

                      this one is a crap comparison the RS with no rave valve feels like it has no balls till its going I like the DT pinned but the RS pinned nooo way its crap

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                      @terry-tz You can even get Pneumatic valves for those engines.

                      So it's not electronically controlled. A spring adjusts its opening RPM. And it just pops open lol

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                      • CalumC Calum

                        @terry-tz You can even get Pneumatic valves for those engines.

                        So it's not electronically controlled. A spring adjusts its opening RPM. And it just pops open lol

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                        @calum I would prefer the controller to be honest but I when my blade broke I pinned mine it lasted a few days before I was fed up with it like that and released it closed again I would rather be stuck to 80mph than put up with a gutless bike

                        "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                        • terry.tzT terry.tz

                          @calum I would prefer the controller to be honest but I when my blade broke I pinned mine it lasted a few days before I was fed up with it like that and released it closed again I would rather be stuck to 80mph than put up with a gutless bike

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                          @terry-tz Lol. Yeah been there made.

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                            Well this is an interesting video;

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4LJaUrHxw&t=170

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                            • NINJAN NINJA

                              Well this is an interesting video;

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4LJaUrHxw&t=170

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                              @ninja the question is where the Dt is? 😉

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                                @ninja the question is where the Dt is? 😉

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                                Husqvarna Husaberg TM 125 they will a piss all over a DTR, The fastest 125 trail bike I have come across by far is the Honda CRM that makes a DTR seem like a 50 lol with or without a 170 kit or a WR200 engine the CRM will piss all over a DTR200 or WR200 once derestricted.

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                                  I gotta get myself that Honda lol

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                                    I gotta get myself that Honda lol

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                                    @calum I sold it to a shop in Lancashire called Bikeonic for 2100 fook knows how much they want for it though.

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                                      @calum I sold it to a shop in Lancashire called Bikeonic for 2100 fook knows how much they want for it though.

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                                      They bought my TSR aswell, also better than a DTR in my opinion, handle better 10 times better brakes and suspension but cant touch the CRM lol

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                                        They bought my TSR aswell, also better than a DTR in my opinion, handle better 10 times better brakes and suspension but cant touch the CRM lol

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                                        @scrimsmustang Lol. I believe it coming from you. If anyone else said it I'd have thought they were just bashing the DTR lol.

                                        It's not as pretty as the DTR or honda though.

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                                          Husqvarna Husaberg TM 125 they will a piss all over a DTR, The fastest 125 trail bike I have come across by far is the Honda CRM that makes a DTR seem like a 50 lol with or without a 170 kit or a WR200 engine the CRM will piss all over a DTR200 or WR200 once derestricted.

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                                          @scrimsmustang don't think it will win over a wr200 but you're right, they are powerful. I Wonder how Honda manages to squeeze out 30 bhp and how Yamaha only ~20 bhp. Seems odd.

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