Dt170 vs ktm exc 125
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@calum I'm not sure where you get your information from, Enduros are in almost all cases road legal. They aren't designed for the road but for trails and endurance courses as you say but they are allowed on the road as long as they have a headlight with dip and full beam, a rear brake light and 2 independant braking systems and meet all the technical and boring requirements. After that its a question of passing any technical inspections, being insured etc.
As for the exc, it is a road legal bike. Even if you buy one factory new, it's just a question of getting it registered and insured. However, I do know that the xcw is not an homologated bike despite being an enduro. As to how, well I'm not sure.
Also, KTM themselves never sold a "road legal kit", but I know they once sold what you could call extension kits for their crossers and enduro bikes. Which basically was a spare headlight and a larger tailplate attachment and indicators.
And you are correct, the exc is a race bred engine. It is in fact almost the exact same engine in the exc as the sx models. However Enduro bikes have much longer gearing than crossers. And some enduro bikes have even longer gearing.
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Didn't have my brain with me at the fuel station, started chugging and the massive clouds behind me suggested I had made an error! Never misfuelled before, put it down to my stupidity gene kicking in, did stop the car tailgating me up the hill though, bit like a secret weapon
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KTM EXC 2strokes comes with everything to make it fully street legal when you buy it new, indicators mirrors chainguard rear tailight with numberplate hanger rear reflector the lot all in the spares package along with some taller sprockets. The 2strokes do indeed come with a restricted exhaust even the 300,s do new. You also get a derestricted exhaust new in the spares package. The 125EXC engine is more or less the same engine as an SX but has taller ratios and slightly different suspension. The XC 2strokes "cant get a 125" have better suspension better gearbox, but come with lighting coil loom and electric start like the EXC so lights speedo etc are plug and play if you want it street legal.
My 2011 250XC 2stroke bought new road registered from new before I had even put all the lights on etc myself. Bare minimum trailtech horn dipbeam headlight front rear hydrolic brakelight switches.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooo let's broaden the spectrum a little bit.....................................
A KTM EXC Vs an Aprilia MX 125, which one is quicker ???
And we'll level the playing field with the EXC converted to SuMo trim, both with the same gearing, which one will win ???
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to be honest there all 125's chuck a can of beans down your throat and fart to the finish if your after speed and acceleration get a bigger bike I personally am not a fan of picking a bike based on numbers especially when there only gonna be like 2 mph difference it's not about what the bike can do its what you can do
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@ninja Yeah it's a tad unfair. Again, the Aprilia is a production road bike. The EXC is a competition bike.
Although the Aprilia does use the Competition Rotax 122 engine. It is a Go Kart engine. And it is brilliant, just not that brilliant in stock trim. 26 ponies derestricted I believe.
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@ninja There are other factors that determine this for me.
Mint cojdition MX 1800 pounds. Mint condition exc....considerably more.
For the extra dough you could have a much more unique, tractable bike if you went with the Aprilia.
Numbers aren't everything, but if you play top trumps I think the aprilia has more going for tit. Availability of parts, the tuning potential. The room for improvement, the list goes on.
If I wasn't interested in tuning, and had the money, I would get an exc. But I am and I don't so the aprilia gets my vote.
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@ninja Surely the Aprilia has better top end. A drag race hardly seems fair.
To be fair, way back when, I was out with my brother.
I was on my DT, my brother was on his RS.
We came across a KTM and he absolutely decimated it. But there's nothing to say that the KTM wasn't about to give up the ghost.
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@ninja said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:
this one is a crap comparison the RS with no rave valve feels like it has no balls till its going I like the DT pinned but the RS pinned nooo way its crap