Bought DT125X, cannot get it to start? Spark, fuel OK
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Okay, thank you, I will take off the cylinder and look into the top end. If it was really rebored 100km ago and the cylinder is not hurt, I will be trying to order a correct size piston ring for it and check if the power valve hits the piston and if the cylinder ports are "shaved down". I think I will be replacing the two seals too and then see what the bike does.
I was thinking about the same anyway, that the rotated power valve hit the ring, but then again it would have destroyed the bottom ring too. Also as I know, some older DTRs were restricted with a diamond shaped power valve which had to be rotated too.
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Before it was rotating but it was not changing, and on the other video it is rotated and aligned to the mark, I then further adjusted it to be in one with the cylinder. -
Some update:
It is not on first oversize, but on the third one, 57.50. The cylinder looks like it was bored recently, it is still "matte", and the piston inside is "RAM" branded which you can get for 20 euro here. The problem is not the bad quality piston however.
They should have checked if the power valve has enough clearence to the piston. They definitely forgot this. As you can see, it is stucking at a point so much that I can't believe how it did not snap the second ring too.
Now, as the piston clearence is fairly big, but the engine was having a great sound, I will order a new piston that is the same quality as this (I have positive experiences with this brand in other bikes) and I will grind off a little off the PV, then assemble it with that, it still hasn't run in so I guess that I am safe to replace the cylinder. If it will be tight, I will take it to a cylinder bore specialist. And if it will start to rattle or become weak, I will take it off again and get the last size 58.00 bore with a Meteor piston.
Also, my starter motor arrived too! I just tried it, it spins the engine quite fast :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I might have the piston here by friday, and then I can work on it on the weekend. Also ordered a 25 PJ and 250 MJ for the bike (because it has gianelli and cut off top airbox) which will be here. -
Some update:
It is not on first oversize, but on the third one, 57.50. The cylinder looks like it was bored recently, it is still "matte", and the piston inside is "RAM" branded which you can get for 20 euro here. The problem is not the bad quality piston however.
They should have checked if the power valve has enough clearence to the piston. They definitely forgot this. As you can see, it is stucking at a point so much that I can't believe how it did not snap the second ring too.
Now, as the piston clearence is fairly big, but the engine was having a great sound, I will order a new piston that is the same quality as this (I have positive experiences with this brand in other bikes) and I will grind off a little off the PV, then assemble it with that, it still hasn't run in so I guess that I am safe to replace the cylinder. If it will be tight, I will take it to a cylinder bore specialist. And if it will start to rattle or become weak, I will take it off again and get the last size 58.00 bore with a Meteor piston.
Also, my starter motor arrived too! I just tried it, it spins the engine quite fast :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I might have the piston here by friday, and then I can work on it on the weekend. Also ordered a 25 PJ and 250 MJ for the bike (because it has gianelli and cut off top airbox) which will be here. -
I just have contacted the local Yamaha official service by email. The bike was indeed serviced at them. But they only did the top end, I guess the bottom was made before that. They told me that a prox piston was installed, even though they only charged the previous owner like 70 euros for it which doesnt even cover the prox piston price, so I guess thwy just installed this 20 euro RAM piston. It is a mess that they just went over the fact that the power valve was definately hitting the piston.
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I just have contacted the local Yamaha official service by email. The bike was indeed serviced at them. But they only did the top end, I guess the bottom was made before that. They told me that a prox piston was installed, even though they only charged the previous owner like 70 euros for it which doesnt even cover the prox piston price, so I guess thwy just installed this 20 euro RAM piston. It is a mess that they just went over the fact that the power valve was definately hitting the piston.
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I believe they mostly do 4 stroke engines nowadays in a yamaha workshop, it was maybe too easy for them lol
I am doing my best to bring this bike back to life, and planning to keep it for a few years as I wont be having more money for a newer one in a while.
The piston is arriving tomorrow, I will make a video of the bike running if I manage to assemble it in the weekend. Main and Pilot jet arrived today -
I believe they mostly do 4 stroke engines nowadays in a yamaha workshop, it was maybe too easy for them lol
I am doing my best to bring this bike back to life, and planning to keep it for a few years as I wont be having more money for a newer one in a while.
The piston is arriving tomorrow, I will make a video of the bike running if I manage to assemble it in the weekend. Main and Pilot jet arrived today -
Managed to start it, has a nice engine and exhaust aaand airfilter sound
It is running smoothly so jetting is almost correct and needle position too, also starts if I just tap the starter button even without applying throttle. Only problem is it smoking if I apply full throttle, so I will have to adjust the air filter as it was cut open but a plate was glued back with 4 small holes, it has a mesh on the top of it for a little filter effect so I will just drill more holes later, also my plug is dark brown, needs more air.
I painted the resonator, and applied some exhaust gasket on the cylinder connection so it is not leaking, but it is missing the silencer rubber and the pipe that is part of the stock silencer was torn off at the welding so I will have my father to reweld it for me, then I paint that too.
Also applied some 10W universal indicators to rear because someone replaced them with 21W and the hazard switch wasn't working that way.
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Managed to start it, has a nice engine and exhaust aaand airfilter sound
It is running smoothly so jetting is almost correct and needle position too, also starts if I just tap the starter button even without applying throttle. Only problem is it smoking if I apply full throttle, so I will have to adjust the air filter as it was cut open but a plate was glued back with 4 small holes, it has a mesh on the top of it for a little filter effect so I will just drill more holes later, also my plug is dark brown, needs more air.
I painted the resonator, and applied some exhaust gasket on the cylinder connection so it is not leaking, but it is missing the silencer rubber and the pipe that is part of the stock silencer was torn off at the welding so I will have my father to reweld it for me, then I paint that too.
Also applied some 10W universal indicators to rear because someone replaced them with 21W and the hazard switch wasn't working that way.
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@Lorant2 Sounds good bro, it looks like you are back on track for some summer fun!!! :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
