Another New Guy
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wrote on 18 Feb 2019, 17:33 last edited by
Thanks All,
I think a certain amount of this is managing my expectations. I used it for work today and it was great, I think its just not got the 'kick' I was expecting from the YPVS. I'll have a look at the PV tonight and take the exhaust off to see whats what!
I was actually eyeing that exhaust up earlier @NINJA, looks very nice!
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@NINJA Stock pipe. The amount of weight saved by going aftermarket is probably where 90% of the noticeable power comes from I swear!
wrote on 18 Feb 2019, 20:01 last edited by@Calum said in Another New Guy:
@NINJA Stock pipe. The amount of weight saved by going aftermarket is probably where 90% of the noticeable power comes from I swear!
The FMF on my DT200WR is like a feather in comparison to the stock one which weighs a tonne!
Go after market every time
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@Calum said in Another New Guy:
@NINJA Stock pipe. The amount of weight saved by going aftermarket is probably where 90% of the noticeable power comes from I swear!
The FMF on my DT200WR is like a feather in comparison to the stock one which weighs a tonne!
Go after market every time
wrote on 18 Feb 2019, 20:08 last edited by@Nottsbiker DAMN I forgot about the FMF - great pipes too!!!
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@Nottsbiker DAMN I forgot about the FMF - great pipes too!!!
wrote on 19 Feb 2019, 18:47 last edited by@NINJA yes better made than DEP too!
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wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 16:56 last edited by
So I may have sorted my problem... I say may, because it makes sense but am yet to test.
On another forum I found some posts from about 8 years ago outlining someone else’s derestriction journey. Looks like he had a 2003 french import DTR, so very close to mine.
He found that the Powervalve under the pully was a diamond shape and needed turning to a derestricted state as it wasn’t flush with the exhaust port. Now I’d seen mention of a diamond shape thing somewhere and also mention of turning the powervalve but didn’t really understand what it meant. There was also a restriction in his 3MB-14160 expansion chamber just like the older models straight out of the cylinder.
I was working last night so had some time this afternoon to take a look, and found my powervalve had this diamond shape on the end, and after getting the exhaust off I could feel that it wasn’t flush in the port.
Now that I’ve aligned it all, and run it up the servo is back to normal (it was a bit sticky straight after turning so I guess things were gunked up where they shouldn’t be).
Annoyingly I can’t ride it currently as the gearbox oil cap is all chewed up and I had already dropped the oil and taken it out by the time I realised. Hopefully a replacement will be here tomorrow.
Initially though it seems much smoother and revs more freely after warming it up a bit, but won’t know for sure until I ride it. I guess with the powervalve being out of line entirely it would have been restricted right through the rev range and ‘wide open’ still restricted as much as fully closed?
Not sure if this means I’ll need to rejet... biggest worry currently so will keep an eye on the plug. Couldn’t see anything in the exhaust so hopefully be much better now.
Sorry for the long post, will get a few pics up later to hopefully make sense of it all..
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Hi All,
Been lurking for a while and just got my DTR on the road and had a few rides out on the dry non-salty days! Few things to sort/understand I think, but on the whole its just as I imagined it would be. Its a 2002 french import with just under 10k Km's. Still trying to work out if its restricted or got an issue somewhere as it will only just about do 60mph.
Anyway everyone on forums loves Pics so heres a quick one in the garage.
Cheers,
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So I may have sorted my problem... I say may, because it makes sense but am yet to test.
On another forum I found some posts from about 8 years ago outlining someone else’s derestriction journey. Looks like he had a 2003 french import DTR, so very close to mine.
He found that the Powervalve under the pully was a diamond shape and needed turning to a derestricted state as it wasn’t flush with the exhaust port. Now I’d seen mention of a diamond shape thing somewhere and also mention of turning the powervalve but didn’t really understand what it meant. There was also a restriction in his 3MB-14160 expansion chamber just like the older models straight out of the cylinder.
I was working last night so had some time this afternoon to take a look, and found my powervalve had this diamond shape on the end, and after getting the exhaust off I could feel that it wasn’t flush in the port.
Now that I’ve aligned it all, and run it up the servo is back to normal (it was a bit sticky straight after turning so I guess things were gunked up where they shouldn’t be).
Annoyingly I can’t ride it currently as the gearbox oil cap is all chewed up and I had already dropped the oil and taken it out by the time I realised. Hopefully a replacement will be here tomorrow.
Initially though it seems much smoother and revs more freely after warming it up a bit, but won’t know for sure until I ride it. I guess with the powervalve being out of line entirely it would have been restricted right through the rev range and ‘wide open’ still restricted as much as fully closed?
Not sure if this means I’ll need to rejet... biggest worry currently so will keep an eye on the plug. Couldn’t see anything in the exhaust so hopefully be much better now.
Sorry for the long post, will get a few pics up later to hopefully make sense of it all..
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@d3cme I haven't seen a powervalve that wasn't a diamond. I always recommend taking the exhaust off and matching it against the exhaust port.
wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 18:15 last edited by@Calum said in Another New Guy:
@d3cme I haven't seen a powervalve that wasn't a diamond. I always recommend taking the exhaust off and matching it against the exhaust port.
I saw some pictures where it was rectangle and totally filled the slot, not sure on year etc though that the pic was from.
Bikes are new to me, cars I’m fine with but I was apprehensive about taking the exhaust off. I ordered a new gasket but it didn’t seem to have one in to replace? Absolutely the best way and only took a couple of mins.
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@d3cme Share a link to the post you found dude, as someone else may benefit from it in the future!!!
wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 18:17 last edited by@NINJA said in Another New Guy:
@d3cme Share a link to the post you found dude, as someone else may benefit from it in the future!!!
I wasn’t sure if it was against the rules but well worth a read to future people who may have similar.. im really hoping it’s all sorted anyway, looking forward to getting out on if when the oil cap turns up.
https://yamahaclub.com/forums/topic/20583-de-restricting-my-dt125r/
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@NINJA said in Another New Guy:
@d3cme Share a link to the post you found dude, as someone else may benefit from it in the future!!!
I wasn’t sure if it was against the rules but well worth a read to future people who may have similar.. im really hoping it’s all sorted anyway, looking forward to getting out on if when the oil cap turns up.
https://yamahaclub.com/forums/topic/20583-de-restricting-my-dt125r/
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@d3cme Sharing info and knowledge is what this forum is all about dude. Always share stuff and if it's not allowed then the moderators will pull it PDQ!!!
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wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 18:55 last edited by
The exhaust gasket is recessed into the exhaust port. They are pennies and I only replace them if they are blown.
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wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 20:51 last edited by
Only the older DT and TZR TDR had a diamond shaped end on the powervalve, all the later 3RM models all have a rectangle end that is an exact fit in the powervalve pully. If it is a 2003 with a diamond shaped end then it is not the original powervalve and probably not the original barrel either.
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wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 21:17 last edited by
Here is a proper 2002 powervalve on the left and early type diamond powervalve on the right, if they were all diamond shape wouldn't have a rectangle in powervalve pully. Yamaha didn't make a 2003 they are 2002 models just registered later.
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wrote on 26 Feb 2019, 22:04 last edited by
Wow, can't believe I never noticed that before.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2019, 10:41 last edited by
Well at least I wasn’t talking complete nonsense
Mines a ‘2002’, registered January 2002 and on a 51 plate now so guess it was pre-change.
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wrote on 27 Feb 2019, 20:44 last edited by d3cme
Just been out for an evening ride before the forecast says it’s cold and wet again.
It’s like a totally different bike, and everything I’d hoped from it when I got it
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Just been out for an evening ride before the forecast says it’s cold and wet again.
It’s like a totally different bike, and everything I’d hoped from it when I got it
wrote on 27 Feb 2019, 22:19 last edited by@d3cme Happy Dayzzz then and you've still got that shiny new Romeu pipe to add to your WOG!!!
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