Dutchie going long distance on a DT...

[Calum]

DTX's are worth more and handle better.

I don't know the Moroccan terrain, but if it's offroading then the X wheels won't be ideal.

DTRE's forks are slightly better than the DTR forks. Or that's just been my experience between the two.

Yes, the DTR/E brakes are horrific. It starts getting expensive when you make custom wheels/tanks etc. Would be easier to just get a TDR250 or something more geared up for longer rides.

I was thinking, on a budget you could try making do.

I don't think the rears are a direct swap, different carriers etc. So ideally you need the whole lot.

[Jbplap]

@Calum
Budget is not the most important factor for me.
But I'm open to different 2 stroke suggestions ofcourse.

A TDR250 is just not for sale in Netherlands, and found only 3 in Germany costing 6-10K lol.
With that money I can make quite some adjustments, besides the TDR has a 14L tank, don't think it will have a better radius because its 2 cilinder double capacity engine.
And ofc the 'base' of the bike would be a lot older (88-91 compared to an 06)

My riding partner will most likely be on a CRF250L.
So I reckoned 125 2s == 250 4s as thats how its categorized in MX too

But we are definitely looking to offroad a lot, so I want 21" front indeed.
So I'll look into getting a hub/respoke this one.

[Calum]

I wouldn't respoke the DTX wheels if it were me.

I'd just swap out the front wheel for an enduro and make up a bracket for the Brembo front caliper.

Schematics are on this site.

[Calum]

https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/1048/front-disc-upgrade-3x2-type/2

[NINJA]

@Jbplap These companies make some quality luggage systems for dual sport and adventure bikes, you could adapt them to fit your DTX I'm sure?

https://greenchileadv.com/

https://www.ventura-bike.co.uk/

[Jbplap]

@Calum,
The picture in your link is with X caliper and disc, but you cant mount the X disc to a RE hub?
Becuase RE is like 3 x 2 pattern, and the X is just 6 evenly spread. Or are there oversized ones for a RE hub?

It sucks that I can not make anything out of metal myself

Ive also seen your fork conversion, and that looks very interesting!
Becuase just mounting a more modern MX/enduro bikes triple clamp + forks would ofc help wonders with the suspension and also solve the 21" issue.

I found YSS shock that fits the DT model too, so that will be a nice upgrade too. Should work on X too right?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-DT125R-89-O6-REAR-SHOCK-ABSORBER-NITROGEN-GAS-ADJUSTABLE-2-YEAR-WARRANTY/112137688586?hash=item1a1bed560a:g:qF4AAOSwTapV4GMY

Overall posting here gave me lots of new directions to search for options

Btw has anyone tried mounting a tank from another Yamaha model? Because there are bigger aftermarket tanks for eg a WR250 or YZ125, because they were quite popular.

@Ninja, they don't really have the type I'm looking for.

I found a company in NL that makes custom tank/racks, so I'm going to contact them soon to see what they can do for the DT.

[NINJA]

@Jbplap Sounds like a good plan.

[autovictor]

if you find a solution about the bigger tank i'd be interested in that too. if you keep the aftermarket chamber and put the stock silencer back you can probably keep the jetting near to stock and have a good compromise between power and consumption. i'd also keep in mind that the original dt forks are more easily repairable than the modern inverted ones. keep up the good job!

[Jbplap]

@autovictor said in Dutchie going long distance on a DT...:

ave a good compr

Will let you know, but dont expect anything cheap.
Thinking it will be somewhere around 600 euro for a rear tank/rack.

I did fit bigger footpegs

Does a luggage top rack (from a DTR) fit on a DTX frame?
Is it straight bolt on, or would I need rear fender/side number panels as well

Also thinking about an YZ125/250 89/90 fork, that is a straight swap right.
Are those forks really decent?

[Stevie Wonder]

@Calum why not make life easy? If the 17” is off no importance sell them or swap them for some regular DTR wheels and forks. Whilst the DTR forks are floppy as anything it’s also what makes them good in all scenarios and terrain which I have a feeling is going to be more helpful. However it is worth mentioning your bike will also be carrying a lot of extra weight.

Good luck with your journey, can’t wait to see a DT do something like this. That being said if there’s any 125 two stroke I’d use to do this type of journey hands down it’d be a bog standard DT125R.

[Jbplap]

@dtStevie98 said in Dutchie going long distance on a DT...:

Whilst the DTR forks are floppy as anything

Thanks

Hahha, I rode a stock DTR the other day, that front fork is WAY too soft, even without luggage, will need stiffer springs and prolly heavier oil.
Also the front brake was lacking stopping power, so if I'm going the DTR forks it will be with the X caliper and preferably biggers discs.

But I'm finding different hubs with diff brake disc patterns, so need to work that out.

ANother solution is fork swap, thinking YZ 89-90 but not sure how much of an improvement that is.

And recently I'm also thinking if a DTR might be a better base, see my question above about the rear top rack.
Becuase luggage would be blocking the tail light of the X.

[fision_chips]

@jbplap I am working on a solution also. If you are still working on yours it would be great to hear of an update. I’ll post mine soon as well.

[Calum]

@fision_chips https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/17/usd-conversion-bearing-cup-method