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  • terry.tzT terry.tz

    @declan the answer is in the name for expansion

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    declan
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    @terry-tz I get that but why does my other bike not have one

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      #56

      I don't know I mean really it depends on what you put in it and the temps to whether you need it I'm finding this funny this seems to be a hot topic at the moment with YouTubers as their all a bunch of b!tchy girls on cam 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

      but if I was gonna move one I would just make a smaller one and put it somewhere else but I wouldn't get rid of it I mean considering radiator caps are normally in front of you I don't fancy testing the safety feature I don't think it's that safe on a bike

      "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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      • terry.tzT terry.tz

        I don't know I mean really it depends on what you put in it and the temps to whether you need it I'm finding this funny this seems to be a hot topic at the moment with YouTubers as their all a bunch of b!tchy girls on cam 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

        but if I was gonna move one I would just make a smaller one and put it somewhere else but I wouldn't get rid of it I mean considering radiator caps are normally in front of you I don't fancy testing the safety feature I don't think it's that safe on a bike

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        @terry-tz said in Temp gauge trouble shooting:

        I don't know I mean really it depends on what you put in it and the temps to whether you need it I'm finding this funny this seems to be a hot topic at the moment with YouTubers as their all a bunch of b!tchy girls on cam 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

        what?!?

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          You want an expansion bottle.

          If you run evans waterless coolant, the coolant won't expand so they become unnecessary.

          But I would still have one.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • CalumC Calum

            You want an expansion bottle.

            If you run evans waterless coolant, the coolant won't expand so they become unnecessary.

            But I would still have one.

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            #59

            @calum this is not true if you heat something it will expand simple Evan's is not magic and I was definitely not insinuating to use it neither lol and I would definitely not wont to test a cap with Evan's in my radiator hot chemicals on your skin can't be comfy not calling you on this just think it's best we stay away lol

            "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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              @declan ok I wrote that wrong really but what is it exactly are you asking

              "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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              • terry.tzT terry.tz

                @declan ok I wrote that wrong really but what is it exactly are you asking

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                #61

                @terry-tz I think I got the jist if it after a while so the Evans stuff even at max temp you can remove the rad cap?

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                • declanD declan

                  @terry-tz I think I got the jist if it after a while so the Evans stuff even at max temp you can remove the rad cap?

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                  #62

                  @declan no this is not true if you heat something it will expand

                  "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                    That's the whole point of the evans coolant. The temperature necessary to pressurise the radiator system is significantly increased.

                    As such it needs a higher temperature applied to it in order for thermal expansion to be a noticeable factor.

                    Hence why the coolant is used, it reduces the pressures exerted in the closed loop system.

                    Most radiator caps require .3 bar of pressure to actuate. In normal operating procedures, evans coolant doesn't hit this sort of pressure, ergo an expansion bottle isn't necessary for most of the yime.

                    But I still run one regardless.

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    • CalumC Calum

                      That's the whole point of the evans coolant. The temperature necessary to pressurise the radiator system is significantly increased.

                      As such it needs a higher temperature applied to it in order for thermal expansion to be a noticeable factor.

                      Hence why the coolant is used, it reduces the pressures exerted in the closed loop system.

                      Most radiator caps require .3 bar of pressure to actuate. In normal operating procedures, evans coolant doesn't hit this sort of pressure, ergo an expansion bottle isn't necessary for most of the yime.

                      But I still run one regardless.

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                      @calum Dont get me started on Evans coolant....

                      Utter shite.

                      Keep it real

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                      • DartyD Darty

                        @calum Dont get me started on Evans coolant....

                        Utter shite.

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                        Calum
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                        #65

                        @darty Go On...

                        People swear by it.

                        I'm running it, as on paper, I can see the benefits.

                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                          terry.tz
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                          I'm not participating in this debate

                          "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                          • terry.tzT terry.tz

                            I'm not participating in this debate

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                            @terry-tz hahaha

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                              @declan have you thought about just making it smaller and moving it

                              "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                Evans actually run hotter than normal cooling, so yeah, not for me either.

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                                • terry.tzT terry.tz

                                  @declan have you thought about just making it smaller and moving it

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                                  @terry-tz it's not an issue I was just wondering why not all bikes have them

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                                    it was probably just a way to save money I mean really you could make any bike not need one or car but it's more of a safety thing really

                                    "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                    • terry.tzT terry.tz

                                      it was probably just a way to save money I mean really you could make any bike not need one or car but it's more of a safety thing really

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                                      @terry-tz ![0_1504021_1504028934193_IMG_1570.JPG

                                      New tyre yo

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                                        @terry-tz ![0_1504021_1504028934193_IMG_1570.JPG

                                        New tyre yo

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                                        • J Jens Eskildsen

                                          Evans actually run hotter than normal cooling, so yeah, not for me either.

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                                          @jens-eskildsen Ahh but you're missing the point slightly there.

                                          It may run hotter, however there will be less pressure exerted in the cooling system. The result is less strain on the cooling internals.

                                          The fact it has a higher boiling temperature also mitigates against the risk of localised boiling on the cylinder head, offering a more even distribution of thermal expansion.

                                          Again, this is all theory bull.

                                          It has been proven to have advantages in its own right. I'll agree and say I may have not noticed them.

                                          Remember, the heat of the flame under the spark plug is a damn sight higher than the coolant temperature. So if the coolant raises by a few degrees, this should still be lower than the heat of the piston crown.

                                          http://papers.sae.org/930217/

                                          So long as the heat within the engine resides within the temperature specified by the manufacture, there shouldn't be a problem.

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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