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  • declanD declan

    @declan so I got about 111.c for boiling point is it possible that it was reading the bottom of the pan not the actual water or does it not matter? I was expecting it to get to 120 as I believe the calibration is off0_1503930073666_IMG_1565.JPG

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    @declan so I re tested it with just theboiling water as a contact point and it still read 110 so I guess it's off by 10 degrees so let's say if I look down and it's reading 90 I'm actually running on 80

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    • declanD declan

      @declan so I re tested it with just theboiling water as a contact point and it still read 110 so I guess it's off by 10 degrees so let's say if I look down and it's reading 90 I'm actually running on 80

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      @declan 95 is not too hot in my opinion I don't really know what other people will say but everyone will say different on this matter I would say 120 is hot but I may say something else if I was on the bike as you can feel a difference when riding

      also, 110c probably correct reading as 100c is for water tap water or any other water for that matter is not just water so I could be wrong but it might be a bit higher like 110c no point in mentioning pressure's ect so because temperature can and will go above 100c and will be a different number every day the test would have to have a thermometer so the cap is a

      ok so now that's said don't worry about 100c in your radiator pressure alone will raise this but you should have some antifreeze in your coolant anyway so unless you were like plodding along at about 60 / 6th gear or some thing you engine is not too hot hope all this makes sense

      everything above is my opinion

      "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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        @declan 95 is not too hot in my opinion I don't really know what other people will say but everyone will say different on this matter I would say 120 is hot but I may say something else if I was on the bike as you can feel a difference when riding

        also, 110c probably correct reading as 100c is for water tap water or any other water for that matter is not just water so I could be wrong but it might be a bit higher like 110c no point in mentioning pressure's ect so because temperature can and will go above 100c and will be a different number every day the test would have to have a thermometer so the cap is a

        ok so now that's said don't worry about 100c in your radiator pressure alone will raise this but you should have some antifreeze in your coolant anyway so unless you were like plodding along at about 60 / 6th gear or some thing you engine is not too hot hope all this makes sense

        everything above is my opinion

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        @terry-tz sounds good to me thanks for your time as usual

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        • declanD declan

          @terry-tz sounds good to me thanks for your time as usual

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          @declan I have pre mixed anti freeze in there does anyone know why the dt has a coolant expansion chamber my am6 doesent and I prefer it that way?

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            @declan I have pre mixed anti freeze in there does anyone know why the dt has a coolant expansion chamber my am6 doesent and I prefer it that way?

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            @declan the answer is in the name for expansion

            "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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            • terry.tzT terry.tz

              @declan the answer is in the name for expansion

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              @terry-tz I get that but why does my other bike not have one

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                I don't know I mean really it depends on what you put in it and the temps to whether you need it I'm finding this funny this seems to be a hot topic at the moment with YouTubers as their all a bunch of b!tchy girls on cam 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

                but if I was gonna move one I would just make a smaller one and put it somewhere else but I wouldn't get rid of it I mean considering radiator caps are normally in front of you I don't fancy testing the safety feature I don't think it's that safe on a bike

                "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                • terry.tzT terry.tz

                  I don't know I mean really it depends on what you put in it and the temps to whether you need it I'm finding this funny this seems to be a hot topic at the moment with YouTubers as their all a bunch of b!tchy girls on cam 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

                  but if I was gonna move one I would just make a smaller one and put it somewhere else but I wouldn't get rid of it I mean considering radiator caps are normally in front of you I don't fancy testing the safety feature I don't think it's that safe on a bike

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                  @terry-tz said in Temp gauge trouble shooting:

                  I don't know I mean really it depends on what you put in it and the temps to whether you need it I'm finding this funny this seems to be a hot topic at the moment with YouTubers as their all a bunch of b!tchy girls on cam 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

                  what?!?

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                    Calum
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                    You want an expansion bottle.

                    If you run evans waterless coolant, the coolant won't expand so they become unnecessary.

                    But I would still have one.

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                    • CalumC Calum

                      You want an expansion bottle.

                      If you run evans waterless coolant, the coolant won't expand so they become unnecessary.

                      But I would still have one.

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                      @calum this is not true if you heat something it will expand simple Evan's is not magic and I was definitely not insinuating to use it neither lol and I would definitely not wont to test a cap with Evan's in my radiator hot chemicals on your skin can't be comfy not calling you on this just think it's best we stay away lol

                      "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                        @declan ok I wrote that wrong really but what is it exactly are you asking

                        "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                        • terry.tzT terry.tz

                          @declan ok I wrote that wrong really but what is it exactly are you asking

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                          @terry-tz I think I got the jist if it after a while so the Evans stuff even at max temp you can remove the rad cap?

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                          • declanD declan

                            @terry-tz I think I got the jist if it after a while so the Evans stuff even at max temp you can remove the rad cap?

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                            @declan no this is not true if you heat something it will expand

                            "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                              That's the whole point of the evans coolant. The temperature necessary to pressurise the radiator system is significantly increased.

                              As such it needs a higher temperature applied to it in order for thermal expansion to be a noticeable factor.

                              Hence why the coolant is used, it reduces the pressures exerted in the closed loop system.

                              Most radiator caps require .3 bar of pressure to actuate. In normal operating procedures, evans coolant doesn't hit this sort of pressure, ergo an expansion bottle isn't necessary for most of the yime.

                              But I still run one regardless.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                              • CalumC Calum

                                That's the whole point of the evans coolant. The temperature necessary to pressurise the radiator system is significantly increased.

                                As such it needs a higher temperature applied to it in order for thermal expansion to be a noticeable factor.

                                Hence why the coolant is used, it reduces the pressures exerted in the closed loop system.

                                Most radiator caps require .3 bar of pressure to actuate. In normal operating procedures, evans coolant doesn't hit this sort of pressure, ergo an expansion bottle isn't necessary for most of the yime.

                                But I still run one regardless.

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                                @calum Dont get me started on Evans coolant....

                                Utter shite.

                                Keep it real

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                                  @calum Dont get me started on Evans coolant....

                                  Utter shite.

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                                  @darty Go On...

                                  People swear by it.

                                  I'm running it, as on paper, I can see the benefits.

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                                    I'm not participating in this debate

                                    "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                    • terry.tzT terry.tz

                                      I'm not participating in this debate

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                                      @terry-tz hahaha

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                                        @declan have you thought about just making it smaller and moving it

                                        "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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                                          Evans actually run hotter than normal cooling, so yeah, not for me either.

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