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    jonne123
    wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:37 last edited by jonne123 4 Mar 2020, 18:42
    #15

    Different forks? Swingarm? What can you recommend and most cheaply?

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      3 Apr 2020, 17:37

      Different forks? Swingarm? What can you recommend and most cheaply?

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      Calum
      wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:44 last edited by
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      @jonne123 Yeah you know, the Aprilia has completely different geometry to the DTR. So it's going to need fabrication.

      The front and rear wheel need to be aligned. The front and rear sprockets need to align. The wheels need to be centralised. Cause it's from a completely different machine.

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        jonne123
        wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:46 last edited by
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        maybe spacers like the has my uncles friend is machinist

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          Calum
          wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:46 last edited by
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          If money is a concern, stick with what you got and put some decent tyres on it.

          Even Excel rims are expensive and require work. So there is no one easy solution.

          The easiest way to do it would be to buy some nice and expensive Excel rims, and lace up your hubs to them That way you retain the original brakes and spacers and geometry with SM Rims.

          The DTX solution, you need forks, brakes and wheels. These were hard to come by new, now it's practically a nightmare.

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            3 Apr 2020, 17:46

            maybe spacers like the has my uncles friend is machinist

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            Calum
            wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:47 last edited by Calum 4 Mar 2020, 18:48
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            @jonne123 If you don't mind fabricating parts, then you'll need spacers and the hub carriers modified to take the bigger brakes. and a bracket made to mount the brakes to the wheels.

            Can see the work required in my DTRE build thread as I run RS125 wheels on my DTR.

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              jonne123
              wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:47 last edited by
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              I know i need brake caliper upradge nad change just brake leg on right. on rear put the wheel backwars

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                jonne123
                wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:47 last edited by
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                can you link the thread

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                  Calum
                  wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:48 last edited by
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                  No, you need to centralise the wheels, rotate the tyres and also line up the front and rear sprockets. Otherwise you'll chew through rear sprocket carrier bearings in no time at all!

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                    Calum
                    wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:49 last edited by
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                    https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/15/the-leviathan-project/127

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                      jonne123
                      wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 17:51 last edited by jonne123 4 Mar 2020, 18:52
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                      but the axle radious is the same? can i keep front brake caliper at left side?

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                        jonne123
                        wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:00 last edited by
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                        does stock rs hub carries fit?

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                          Calum
                          wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:03 last edited by
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                          No nothing fits, it all has to be fabricated. Even the spindles are different sizes.

                          The front spindle is too small. Rear spindle was okay.

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                            Calum
                            wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:04 last edited by Calum 4 Mar 2020, 19:05
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                            If you have access to a machinist, the cost is minimal. But it all adds up. Hours on the lathe and precise measurements were necessary to get all the stars to align. I had to shim the rear sprocket to get it to fall inline with the front.

                            When I took the bike in to have the tyres replaced. They omitted the shims and the rear sprocket carrier bearing collapsed shortly after. So it does have to be on point.

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                              jonne123
                              wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:12 last edited by jonne123 4 Mar 2020, 19:13
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                              And in summer i go to machine shop for summerwork so i can make them afterwork.

                              And are the rims same size if you can give some measurements of the parts?

                              How about the speedo?

                              Does the ride quality increase

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                                3 Apr 2020, 18:12

                                And in summer i go to machine shop for summerwork so i can make them afterwork.

                                And are the rims same size if you can give some measurements of the parts?

                                How about the speedo?

                                Does the ride quality increase

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                                declan
                                wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:24 last edited by
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                                @jonne123 WR 125 wheels fit

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                                  jonne123
                                  wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:29 last edited by jonne123 4 Mar 2020, 19:32
                                  #30

                                  But could buy those for 20€

                                  So 20€ for skf wheel bearings

                                  • front brake disc

                                  -Rear sprocket

                                  -speedometer drive

                                  • front caliper

                                  -fabrication metal

                                  So i would image around

                                  200€

                                  So not that bad

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                                    declan
                                    wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 18:36 last edited by
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                                    it very rarely is as easy as you expect but i suppose if you follow callums build thread in relation to your wheels you will be okay

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                                      jonne123
                                      wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 19:03 last edited by
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                                      I plan to do this as simple as possible.

                                      Rear:

                                      Sprockets and 520 chain

                                      Spacers

                                      Front:

                                      Spacers

                                      Speedo drive

                                      Front axle

                                      Brake upradge

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                                        Calum
                                        wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 19:18 last edited by
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                                        @jonne123 You need adaptors for the brakes!

                                        You have to centralise the brakes over the disc, otherwise one side of the pad will just bind against the disc.

                                        It's a lot of work. The easiest thing to do is just get decent tyres on a DTR setup,

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                                          3 Apr 2020, 19:18

                                          @jonne123 You need adaptors for the brakes!

                                          You have to centralise the brakes over the disc, otherwise one side of the pad will just bind against the disc.

                                          It's a lot of work. The easiest thing to do is just get decent tyres on a DTR setup,

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                                          declan
                                          wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 19:20 last edited by
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                                          @Calum I don’t think he will listen to us lol

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