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    jonne123
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    maybe spacers like the has my uncles friend is machinist

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      Calum
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      If money is a concern, stick with what you got and put some decent tyres on it.

      Even Excel rims are expensive and require work. So there is no one easy solution.

      The easiest way to do it would be to buy some nice and expensive Excel rims, and lace up your hubs to them That way you retain the original brakes and spacers and geometry with SM Rims.

      The DTX solution, you need forks, brakes and wheels. These were hard to come by new, now it's practically a nightmare.

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        maybe spacers like the has my uncles friend is machinist

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        @jonne123 If you don't mind fabricating parts, then you'll need spacers and the hub carriers modified to take the bigger brakes. and a bracket made to mount the brakes to the wheels.

        Can see the work required in my DTRE build thread as I run RS125 wheels on my DTR.

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          I know i need brake caliper upradge nad change just brake leg on right. on rear put the wheel backwars

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            can you link the thread

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              Calum
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              No, you need to centralise the wheels, rotate the tyres and also line up the front and rear sprockets. Otherwise you'll chew through rear sprocket carrier bearings in no time at all!

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                https://dt125r.co.uk/topic/15/the-leviathan-project/127

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                  jonne123
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                  #24

                  but the axle radious is the same? can i keep front brake caliper at left side?

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                    jonne123
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                    does stock rs hub carries fit?

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                      Calum
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                      No nothing fits, it all has to be fabricated. Even the spindles are different sizes.

                      The front spindle is too small. Rear spindle was okay.

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                        If you have access to a machinist, the cost is minimal. But it all adds up. Hours on the lathe and precise measurements were necessary to get all the stars to align. I had to shim the rear sprocket to get it to fall inline with the front.

                        When I took the bike in to have the tyres replaced. They omitted the shims and the rear sprocket carrier bearing collapsed shortly after. So it does have to be on point.

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                          jonne123
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                          And in summer i go to machine shop for summerwork so i can make them afterwork.

                          And are the rims same size if you can give some measurements of the parts?

                          How about the speedo?

                          Does the ride quality increase

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                            And in summer i go to machine shop for summerwork so i can make them afterwork.

                            And are the rims same size if you can give some measurements of the parts?

                            How about the speedo?

                            Does the ride quality increase

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                            declan
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                            @jonne123 WR 125 wheels fit

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                              jonne123
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                              But could buy those for 20€

                              So 20€ for skf wheel bearings

                              • front brake disc

                              -Rear sprocket

                              -speedometer drive

                              • front caliper

                              -fabrication metal

                              So i would image around

                              200€

                              So not that bad

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                                it very rarely is as easy as you expect but i suppose if you follow callums build thread in relation to your wheels you will be okay

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                                  jonne123
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                                  I plan to do this as simple as possible.

                                  Rear:

                                  Sprockets and 520 chain

                                  Spacers

                                  Front:

                                  Spacers

                                  Speedo drive

                                  Front axle

                                  Brake upradge

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                                    @jonne123 You need adaptors for the brakes!

                                    You have to centralise the brakes over the disc, otherwise one side of the pad will just bind against the disc.

                                    It's a lot of work. The easiest thing to do is just get decent tyres on a DTR setup,

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                                      @jonne123 You need adaptors for the brakes!

                                      You have to centralise the brakes over the disc, otherwise one side of the pad will just bind against the disc.

                                      It's a lot of work. The easiest thing to do is just get decent tyres on a DTR setup,

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                                      @Calum I don’t think he will listen to us lol

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                                        jonne123
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                                        How big of a difference is good tires on sm wheel or enduro? And im just planning its atleast 3 monts to a 1.5 years when i will be ready

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                                          I will say right now mate, the most fun I've had on my DTR is in bog stock trim.

                                          I absolutely adored the handling of it stock, or lack there of.

                                          My SM DT just grips and stops on a dime and that's really safe, but doesn't make for much fun.

                                          Now I love my setup, wouldn't change it for the world. I'm just saying, grass isn't always greener.

                                          By far the best thing you can do, get some dual sport tyres (so you can still do light off roading). Stiffen that front suspension unit up. get a pipe on it and a 3MB head if it hasn't got it already and and a Zeeltronic ignition system.

                                          You bike will be absolute hoon to ride and will pack a little punch too.

                                          Otherwise, I'd sell that DTR and get a better bike like an Aprilia MX125. Trust me, if I had my time again, that's exactly what I'd do.

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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