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  • S SpookDog
    20 Sept 2022, 19:09

    I’m @ 1964 miles now and it’s running so sweet it’s unreal compared to my previous escapades! 😜

    60something miles on the Brembo’s and I’m well surprised @ how positive they are! It’s hard to judge brakes on a bike with such a bad front end. Just touching the front brakes makes the forks dive (what feels like) 2~3 inches, then firm braking takes it the rest (like I said, it’s hard to judge). But I’m convinced these carbon-ceramic Brembo’s are in a totally different league than the red EBC pads I was using (NOT ‘Red Stuff’ which I couldn’t find a vendor for). If your front brake leaves you feeling insecure then these are worth the £24 for the confidence they inspire IMHO
    I’m gonna get a pair for the rear as soon as I’m flush...

    I can’t wait for the 40 days for my progressive springs to get here to pass! I’m hoping to have the full ticket of a front end that doesn’t get down right scary over 55mph! 👻

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    SpookDog
    wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 16:49 last edited by
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    2170 miles since the rebuild and all is well. Zips up to & cruises @ 60mph (@6000rpm) so smooth and quick if there’s no headwinds!😜

    Gonna try the Exol synthetic and see how it stands up to castrol1 and silcolene comp2...

    Ordered the Brembo carbon ceramic pads for the rear and am gonna fit them with the front calliper with the new bigger diameter master cylinder...

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    • S SpookDog
      23 Sept 2022, 16:49

      2170 miles since the rebuild and all is well. Zips up to & cruises @ 60mph (@6000rpm) so smooth and quick if there’s no headwinds!😜

      Gonna try the Exol synthetic and see how it stands up to castrol1 and silcolene comp2...

      Ordered the Brembo carbon ceramic pads for the rear and am gonna fit them with the front calliper with the new bigger diameter master cylinder...

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      SpookDog
      wrote on 25 Sept 2022, 15:39 last edited by
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      @SpookDog

      2320 miles with no head blown! I’m officially calling it FIXED!! All caused by a too small pilot jet, un~fucking believable 🙄 Now I can get a rebore & new piston (that I trust completely) and get on with other jobs needing doing, like forks, paint, exhaust, new 6 foot friendly seat, new loom, ect 😜

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      • S SpookDog
        25 Sept 2022, 15:39

        @SpookDog

        2320 miles with no head blown! I’m officially calling it FIXED!! All caused by a too small pilot jet, un~fucking believable 🙄 Now I can get a rebore & new piston (that I trust completely) and get on with other jobs needing doing, like forks, paint, exhaust, new 6 foot friendly seat, new loom, ect 😜

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        Calum
        wrote on 25 Sept 2022, 16:10 last edited by
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        @SpookDog 6 foot friendly seat? I had shorter dog bones made which jacked up the height of my bike. Roughly 10mm shorter than standard raised it sufficiently enough for me and I am 1.88m ~ 6"1

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        • C Calum
          25 Sept 2022, 16:10

          @SpookDog 6 foot friendly seat? I had shorter dog bones made which jacked up the height of my bike. Roughly 10mm shorter than standard raised it sufficiently enough for me and I am 1.88m ~ 6"1

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          SpookDog
          wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 17:41 last edited by
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          @Calum

          Jacking it would only make it worse for me. It’s the slipping down & forwards that stretches out my butt & boys. I need a higher, better padded/supported front to my seat. My but fits onto the spot where the soft thicker front foam levels out onto the thinner padded rear. There’s a ridge there I think...

          Don’t RE’s have different tank, seat, config than the Dtr? I’m guessing they improved it...

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          • S SpookDog
            27 Sept 2022, 17:41

            @Calum

            Jacking it would only make it worse for me. It’s the slipping down & forwards that stretches out my butt & boys. I need a higher, better padded/supported front to my seat. My but fits onto the spot where the soft thicker front foam levels out onto the thinner padded rear. There’s a ridge there I think...

            Don’t RE’s have different tank, seat, config than the Dtr? I’m guessing they improved it...

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            markus.w
            wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 16:12 last edited by
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            @SpookDog the forward most lowest part of the seat is where you should be sitting with you inside leg squeezing the tank for ultimate control/stability. But sounds to me like this part is too low for you? The dt125r seat height is 840mm/33inches, and the dt125re is 915mm/36inches so considerably taller. You can swap the seats as I've seen it done but you'd need to also swap the tank and all panels. A bit extreme though for a classic bike. Alternatively remove the seat cover and pack it up with a bit of memory foam or similar. Probably then best to fit a new seat cover.

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            • M markus.w
              28 Sept 2022, 16:12

              @SpookDog the forward most lowest part of the seat is where you should be sitting with you inside leg squeezing the tank for ultimate control/stability. But sounds to me like this part is too low for you? The dt125r seat height is 840mm/33inches, and the dt125re is 915mm/36inches so considerably taller. You can swap the seats as I've seen it done but you'd need to also swap the tank and all panels. A bit extreme though for a classic bike. Alternatively remove the seat cover and pack it up with a bit of memory foam or similar. Probably then best to fit a new seat cover.

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              SpookDog
              wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 18:50 last edited by SpookDog
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              @markus-w

              If I sit there my knees are too far forward. My elbows stick out like chicken wings. Also my ankles won’t let my feet bend up enough to operate the gearshift. I just can’t fold myself up enough, imagine like a clown on a mini bike! But squatting for a dump 🙄

              Cheers for the RE info. I didn’t realise the tank, seat & panels could be fitted to a dtr I thought the exhaust was different as well?...

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              • S SpookDog
                29 Sept 2022, 18:50

                @markus-w

                If I sit there my knees are too far forward. My elbows stick out like chicken wings. Also my ankles won’t let my feet bend up enough to operate the gearshift. I just can’t fold myself up enough, imagine like a clown on a mini bike! But squatting for a dump 🙄

                Cheers for the RE info. I didn’t realise the tank, seat & panels could be fitted to a dtr I thought the exhaust was different as well?...

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                markus.w
                wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 20:13 last edited by
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                @SpookDog slight difference in the exhaust, mainly the bracket near the radiator which can be easily adapted with a little spacer but there would be no need to change the exhaust. Have you considered wider bars with risers and rotate the gear lever forward on the teeth by 15-20 degrees?

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                • M markus.w
                  29 Sept 2022, 20:13

                  @SpookDog slight difference in the exhaust, mainly the bracket near the radiator which can be easily adapted with a little spacer but there would be no need to change the exhaust. Have you considered wider bars with risers and rotate the gear lever forward on the teeth by 15-20 degrees?

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                  SpookDog
                  wrote on 29 Sept 2022, 20:26 last edited by
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                  @markus-w

                  Good ideas but the foot pegs are just too far back for my frame. I have plans for a custom seat. I have 2 spare bases and 1 spare foam. It’s just pretty low on my priorities at the mojo. I will get round to it though 🙂
                  Cheers bud

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                  • S SpookDog
                    29 Sept 2022, 20:26

                    @markus-w

                    Good ideas but the foot pegs are just too far back for my frame. I have plans for a custom seat. I have 2 spare bases and 1 spare foam. It’s just pretty low on my priorities at the mojo. I will get round to it though 🙂
                    Cheers bud

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                    SpookDog
                    wrote on 11 Oct 2022, 14:45 last edited by SpookDog 10 Nov 2022, 15:50
                    #280

                    3077 miles and all is well with my head 🥴

                    I’m getting the odd cloud of blue smoke when I open it up after a while of riding though. I ride conservatively most of the time not going above 6000rpm’s, but when I do I get a hellavu cloud of smoke, enough to notice in the mirrors! I’ve noticed it before but usually it’s when I’m at 70 in 5th. The engine doesn’t ‘chug’ or drop off revs at all. Today though it did it when I dropped a gear to overtake at about 50mph, I didn’t notice the rpm, just the cloud of smoke in my mirrors!...
                    Anyone else notice this with their bikes? Is it normal? Or do I have a brake pedal side crank seal problem? Any input is appreciated 👍 ...

                    It doesn’t do it every time. Just the odd time after riding ‘gently’

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                    • S SpookDog
                      11 Oct 2022, 14:45

                      3077 miles and all is well with my head 🥴

                      I’m getting the odd cloud of blue smoke when I open it up after a while of riding though. I ride conservatively most of the time not going above 6000rpm’s, but when I do I get a hellavu cloud of smoke, enough to notice in the mirrors! I’ve noticed it before but usually it’s when I’m at 70 in 5th. The engine doesn’t ‘chug’ or drop off revs at all. Today though it did it when I dropped a gear to overtake at about 50mph, I didn’t notice the rpm, just the cloud of smoke in my mirrors!...
                      Anyone else notice this with their bikes? Is it normal? Or do I have a brake pedal side crank seal problem? Any input is appreciated 👍 ...

                      It doesn’t do it every time. Just the odd time after riding ‘gently’

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                      SpookDog
                      wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 14:39 last edited by
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                      MOT time today! And my bike has decided it’s not gonna rev above 6k anysense! Seems the power valve is sticky/gummed up in the barrel. I’m gonna strip it and clean it after the mot. Does this happen often or just after I started using different 2stroke oil?! 😐

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                      • S SpookDog
                        17 Oct 2022, 14:39

                        MOT time today! And my bike has decided it’s not gonna rev above 6k anysense! Seems the power valve is sticky/gummed up in the barrel. I’m gonna strip it and clean it after the mot. Does this happen often or just after I started using different 2stroke oil?! 😐

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                        Calum
                        wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 15:47 last edited by
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                        @SpookDog I have never had it happen to me in 12 years of ownership.

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                        • S SpookDog
                          17 Oct 2022, 14:39

                          MOT time today! And my bike has decided it’s not gonna rev above 6k anysense! Seems the power valve is sticky/gummed up in the barrel. I’m gonna strip it and clean it after the mot. Does this happen often or just after I started using different 2stroke oil?! 😐

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                          Scootjockey
                          wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 21:51 last edited by
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                          @SpookDog
                          The servo motor is ok isn’t it ? For the powervalve to be gummed up and it’s not opening is a bit suspect, as the servo can apply quite a bit of force and if it’s not it might on its way out. ? Then again is the battery ok and alternator charging ok ?

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                            17 Oct 2022, 21:51

                            @SpookDog
                            The servo motor is ok isn’t it ? For the powervalve to be gummed up and it’s not opening is a bit suspect, as the servo can apply quite a bit of force and if it’s not it might on its way out. ? Then again is the battery ok and alternator charging ok ?

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                            SpookDog
                            wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 11:57 last edited by
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                            @Scootjockey

                            It was proper sticky with black crud. Cleaned it up with some degreasant. I’ll have to keep my eye on it in the near future...

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                              18 Oct 2022, 11:57

                              @Scootjockey

                              It was proper sticky with black crud. Cleaned it up with some degreasant. I’ll have to keep my eye on it in the near future...

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                              Scootjockey
                              wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 18:35 last edited by
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                              @SpookDog
                              I’d imagine that was due to carbon build up and the change in oil, just goes to show 2 strokes are fickle things and need regular TLC to be kept up to speed

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                                18 Oct 2022, 18:35

                                @SpookDog
                                I’d imagine that was due to carbon build up and the change in oil, just goes to show 2 strokes are fickle things and need regular TLC to be kept up to speed

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                                SpookDog
                                wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 19:23 last edited by
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                                @Scootjockey
                                Yeah. The engine seems to run fine (even good!) with the 2T synthetic oil I’ve been using. It’s only the power valve that’s suffering. Also I wasn’t sent the Oil I was expecting, I ended up with ‘Smith Alan’. I didn’t take any notice of the packaging, just that it was synthetic and approved. My embarrassing fuckup!...
                                I’m going back to Castrol for the foreseeable future...

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                                  20 Oct 2022, 19:23

                                  @Scootjockey
                                  Yeah. The engine seems to run fine (even good!) with the 2T synthetic oil I’ve been using. It’s only the power valve that’s suffering. Also I wasn’t sent the Oil I was expecting, I ended up with ‘Smith Alan’. I didn’t take any notice of the packaging, just that it was synthetic and approved. My embarrassing fuckup!...
                                  I’m going back to Castrol for the foreseeable future...

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                                  SpookDog
                                  wrote on 24 Oct 2022, 18:18 last edited by
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                                  The power valve started sticking again a day after. I switched back to castrol R1 and it has cleared up nicely...

                                  The bike itself ran fine with the oil, it was just the power valve was gumming up with a thick, sticky varnish. Not power valve friendly! I still want to try Exol oil at some point...

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                                  • CalumC Calum
                                    18 Sept 2022, 21:57

                                    @SpookDog The bleed nipple should be backed off when retracting the pistons, you risk damaging something otherwise.

                                    On cars, with solid brake lines, the bleed nipple should be backed off else risking rupting a solid line.

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                                    declan
                                    wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 22:56 last edited by
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                                    @Calum i once cracked a caliper not loosening the master cylinder cap not my finest moment

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                                    • declanD declan
                                      26 Oct 2022, 22:56

                                      @Calum i once cracked a caliper not loosening the master cylinder cap not my finest moment

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                                      SpookDog
                                      wrote on 30 Oct 2022, 17:30 last edited by
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                                      Stripped and replaced the clutch side main oil seal. It looked fine, but on removal there was gear oil on the bottom of the main bearing. Brown, not red...

                                      Bike definitely feels different as well. The tick over has altered so I’m gonna have to tweak the airscrew, which I don’t think I’m very good at 🙄 The revs seem to pick up much ‘cleaner’ as well...

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                                        30 Oct 2022, 17:30

                                        Stripped and replaced the clutch side main oil seal. It looked fine, but on removal there was gear oil on the bottom of the main bearing. Brown, not red...

                                        Bike definitely feels different as well. The tick over has altered so I’m gonna have to tweak the airscrew, which I don’t think I’m very good at 🙄 The revs seem to pick up much ‘cleaner’ as well...

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                                        SpookDog
                                        wrote on 1 Nov 2022, 16:47 last edited by
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                                        Also replaced the EBC uprated clutch springs with the original ones, the clutch is as light as a feather!. Downshifting is a lot less clunky since I adjusted the basket/pressure plate 👍 ...

                                        Also my progressive springs have finally arrived and been posted! I really want a second hand set of forks to use either for the upgrade, or to use while the others are stripped for powder coating, ect...

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                                          1 Nov 2022, 16:47

                                          Also replaced the EBC uprated clutch springs with the original ones, the clutch is as light as a feather!. Downshifting is a lot less clunky since I adjusted the basket/pressure plate 👍 ...

                                          Also my progressive springs have finally arrived and been posted! I really want a second hand set of forks to use either for the upgrade, or to use while the others are stripped for powder coating, ect...

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                                          Calum
                                          wrote on 2 Nov 2022, 08:50 last edited by
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                                          @SpookDog Oh awesome, I run the EBC Springs and after a short while of riding I don't bother with the clutch, just let off the throttle.

                                          The problem I was worried about was once you start increasing the vehicles power you may run into clutch troubles. But total overkill for stock systems.

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