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My diagram! š ā¦

Haynes š Wonder what else Iāve been swimming againstā¦
Nice diagram, is it online? Iāve got two solenoid boxās under the seat that I canāt find on any diagram. They have to be side stand cut out related, but Iād love to know for sureā¦
New RR didnāt work, no headlights at all. Do the later bikes put out any AC at all, or is it just broken š ā¦
Edit: I forgot, I passed 40,000 miles the other day (or night) was on 14.5K when I got it a few years agoā¦
Edit: Disconnected the battery to frame earth and the fuse hasnāt blown yet. I canāt get my head around wiring. Itās all a bit AC\DC š
The crank just turned up. Itās a nice looking piece of kit. Iām glad I listened, for once š ā¦
Another topic: anyone using gel batteries? Any issues with charging? Or should it be a lead-acid only on an early 3 stator bike?
Iām having issues with a gel battery I fitted last year. Itās holding a very small amount of charge, but when I try and charge it on a mains gel-specific charger it says itās already fully charged. I donāt want to replace it with another gel battery only for the same thing to happen. If itās not compatible with the early Dtr charging curcuit⦠-
I run a lithium battery on my DTRE. Nice and light and stores really well. Plenty of cranking amps too for the start motor!
I only paid £50 for mine several years ago...
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I run a lithium battery on my DTRE. Nice and light and stores really well. Plenty of cranking amps too for the start motor!
I only paid £50 for mine several years ago...
I appreciate that they are good, the next level. I think the Re is 3 phase and totally DC though. I think the 97 onwards may be as well. The 88-96 are AC & DC though.
From what Iāve read overcharging can seriously fux up a battery, on a liquid acid battery it evaporates the electrolyte and you can top up. On a gel battery you canāt replace it and it deteriorated to death ā ļøI didnāt maintain my liquid acid battery and it dries out badly. I thought it was the heat at the time. I think I need to check my stator coil outputs š or replace the regulator/rectifier with a genuine one. I tried a later RR but the lights never worked. Iām guessing it is DC only. No AC currentā¦
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I appreciate that they are good, the next level. I think the Re is 3 phase and totally DC though. I think the 97 onwards may be as well. The 88-96 are AC & DC though.
From what Iāve read overcharging can seriously fux up a battery, on a liquid acid battery it evaporates the electrolyte and you can top up. On a gel battery you canāt replace it and it deteriorated to death ā ļøI didnāt maintain my liquid acid battery and it dries out badly. I thought it was the heat at the time. I think I need to check my stator coil outputs š or replace the regulator/rectifier with a genuine one. I tried a later RR but the lights never worked. Iām guessing it is DC only. No AC currentā¦
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Does anyone have a genuine Yamaha Regulator Rectifier for sale?ā¦
The RR I have fitted is overcharging the battery. It dried out my last liquid acid battery and has done for my gel one now 𫤠ā¦
Bearing puller set arrived today. Ā£25 for 14 piece set which also has two ālegā puller attachments (pun intended) that some kits donātā¦
Nice & painless as I like it! Removed the bearing in 5 mins with no marking the crank at all. Wish Iād known about these before, back when two very large flathead screwdrivers were my āmodus operandiā š ā¦

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Bearing puller set arrived today. Ā£25 for 14 piece set which also has two ālegā puller attachments (pun intended) that some kits donātā¦
Nice & painless as I like it! Removed the bearing in 5 mins with no marking the crank at all. Wish Iād known about these before, back when two very large flathead screwdrivers were my āmodus operandiā š ā¦

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Iām celebrating my head not being blown in a very decent amount of time ā° ā ļøšš¾ā”ļøš
A year, long time for me keeping my head together š ā¦
My back tyre seems to develop an āedgeā after a few thousand miles. Or a while, I havenāt been keeping track of mileage so much since my head stopped blowingā¦

The centre seems to develop a flat spot because most miles are covered upright. When I go to lean, once you leave the flat bit, thereās an edge that is not very stable feeling, it kind of shimmys before it bites. Anyone else experienced this with knobbly tyres? Itās like all of a sudden youāre on a knife edge! It doesnāt help that the tread there is deep and āflexyāā¦
Itās gotten to the point where Iām thinking of āadventure bikeā type ātrailā tyres. I canāt remember the last time I went off tarmac. I refuse to put 100% road tyres on thoā
Any recommendations for good, decent wearing tyres?ā¦Or should I just get out the angle grinder? Or learn to doughnut! ā ļø
PS: @HOTSHOT-III
Do you still have the dtr wheel set for sale?⦠-
My back tyre seems to develop an āedgeā after a few thousand miles. Or a while, I havenāt been keeping track of mileage so much since my head stopped blowingā¦

The centre seems to develop a flat spot because most miles are covered upright. When I go to lean, once you leave the flat bit, thereās an edge that is not very stable feeling, it kind of shimmys before it bites. Anyone else experienced this with knobbly tyres? Itās like all of a sudden youāre on a knife edge! It doesnāt help that the tread there is deep and āflexyāā¦
Itās gotten to the point where Iām thinking of āadventure bikeā type ātrailā tyres. I canāt remember the last time I went off tarmac. I refuse to put 100% road tyres on thoā
Any recommendations for good, decent wearing tyres?ā¦Or should I just get out the angle grinder? Or learn to doughnut! ā ļø
PS: @HOTSHOT-III
Do you still have the dtr wheel set for sale?ā¦@SpookDog Yes bud, wheelset is still available:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266386635256
Avon TrailRiders are excellent tyres and all I ever used on all my DTRs. They're roughly 85% road/15% dirt so very sticky and fast rolling on tarmac but still good for gentle off-roading when it's bone dry.
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Yes, the edge knobs are a bit flexible sideways, and if you are leaning over you are putting more than 1g force on them, so it makes sense that stability suffers. Increasing tyre pressure mitigates it somewhat.
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Yes, the edge knobs are a bit flexible sideways, and if you are leaning over you are putting more than 1g force on them, so it makes sense that stability suffers. Increasing tyre pressure mitigates it somewhat.
Doesnāt help that they are now twice the depth of the centre tread.
I need to find a safe bit of tarmac somewhere that I can practice doughnuts. Last time I tried it was a Vespa p200 with a sidecar and an off duty PC reported me for reckless driving š It was in a āoff hoursā dead end car park by the river. So Iām a bit more cautious nowā¦
I donāt think that the angle grinder will be uniform enough though š ā¦Apparently Some manufacturers are using different hardness ābandsā in their tyresā¦

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Vespa with a sidecar doing donuts? ROFL
The rear tyre on my CBR resembled a baker's rolling pin more than anything.
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Vespa with a sidecar doing donuts? ROFL
The rear tyre on my CBR resembled a baker's rolling pin more than anything.
??? Itās real fuxin easy as long as you donāt try and turn left while youāre doing it, work it out š ā¦
Depending on which way the pin is facing. I donāt know if thatās bad or notā¦
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Rear brake stopped biting today. I had noticed it had been fading over the last few rides. It turns out that the piston is pitted at a point where it was left standing for a long while sometime in its past. Donāt have any money to replace the piston and seals at the moment, so Iām gonna have to drill & fill the pits to squeeze a few more thousand miles out of it š ā¦
I would like to fit a 35mm front calliper on the rear. I have one ready to go but I had to buy a 14mm master to match it. Accidentally, I broke off the plastic fitting that the reservoir tube fits on to. Once I have the pennies for that Iāll get on with this long overdue upgrade. My rear brake makes up well over 50% of my braking, so itās neededā¦
I have some ideas for a front disc upgrade, but I need to find someone who has access to āwater cutā a disc centre that matches a Dtr hub to a suitable sized āfloating discā outerā¦
Edit: reservoir tube in postā¦
Need to test charging coil output to see why the bike is eating batteries. If output is good from coil replace regulator (long overdue) with used part⦠-
Rear brake stopped biting today. I had noticed it had been fading over the last few rides. It turns out that the piston is pitted at a point where it was left standing for a long while sometime in its past. Donāt have any money to replace the piston and seals at the moment, so Iām gonna have to drill & fill the pits to squeeze a few more thousand miles out of it š ā¦
I would like to fit a 35mm front calliper on the rear. I have one ready to go but I had to buy a 14mm master to match it. Accidentally, I broke off the plastic fitting that the reservoir tube fits on to. Once I have the pennies for that Iāll get on with this long overdue upgrade. My rear brake makes up well over 50% of my braking, so itās neededā¦
I have some ideas for a front disc upgrade, but I need to find someone who has access to āwater cutā a disc centre that matches a Dtr hub to a suitable sized āfloating discā outerā¦
Edit: reservoir tube in postā¦
Need to test charging coil output to see why the bike is eating batteries. If output is good from coil replace regulator (long overdue) with used partā¦Rear master to reservoir outlet turned up today, at last! Strangely enough the 1/2 master has āsettled inā and is providing enough fluid to the 35mm front calliper that Iāve fitted to the back. Go figure!ā¦
Had to clean out the carb again today, namely water globlet in the pilot jet as usual. I donāt understand why I suffer from this so often. New petrol cap time, maybe?ā¦
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Rear master to reservoir outlet turned up today, at last! Strangely enough the 1/2 master has āsettled inā and is providing enough fluid to the 35mm front calliper that Iāve fitted to the back. Go figure!ā¦
Had to clean out the carb again today, namely water globlet in the pilot jet as usual. I donāt understand why I suffer from this so often. New petrol cap time, maybe?ā¦
@SpookDog cover the gas tank cap with electical tape, I did that as soon as I got my bike, the keyhole can leak. It's not likely someone will try to steal your gas and it's inconvenient to lock and unlock the tank every time you need to fill it up which happens too often with this thing for some reason
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Rear master to reservoir outlet turned up today, at last! Strangely enough the 1/2 master has āsettled inā and is providing enough fluid to the 35mm front calliper that Iāve fitted to the back. Go figure!ā¦
Had to clean out the carb again today, namely water globlet in the pilot jet as usual. I donāt understand why I suffer from this so often. New petrol cap time, maybe?ā¦
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I must admit, I have really changed my tune with the 170 kit.
What I would say is, make sure the powervalve is ported flush. Genuinly mine protruded the exhaust port stock. So benefits from modding the valve even if you leave the exhaust port alone.
I think the DTR is a better choice for the 170. Just because you're more likely to be utilising the benefit from the bottom end more due to the nature of the bike.
TZR is more of an open stretch bike where you'll want more HP up the top end.
