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  • S SpookDog
    11 Dec 2023, 17:11

    @Calum

    The umbrella? 😜 …

    Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

    PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

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    MadGyver
    wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 20:12 last edited by
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    @SpookDog said in So Close!...:

    @Calum

    The umbrella? 😜 …

    Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

    PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

    To fit the small end bearing from the Blaster you need to file each side inside of the piston 0,5mm. To be on the safe side I removed 0,75mm from each side for when everything heats and diolates.

    I need my tools and a pile of junk.....

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      11 Dec 2023, 20:12

      @SpookDog said in So Close!...:

      @Calum

      The umbrella? 😜 …

      Blaster 200 small end bearing didn’t fit. Was too wide to fit inside the piston. Luckily I had a dtr bearing that has wider roller/needles than the others I’ve got. Even with a bit of side to side play it still has good coverage of the conrods top eye width…

      PS I just noticed that the Athena top end gasket set doesn’t include the orange PV bush seal! For nearly £50 you’d think they’d include it?!…

      To fit the small end bearing from the Blaster you need to file each side inside of the piston 0,5mm. To be on the safe side I removed 0,75mm from each side for when everything heats and diolates.

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      SpookDog
      wrote on 11 Dec 2023, 20:23 last edited by SpookDog 12 Nov 2023, 20:32
      #809

      @MadGyver

      Fux! I wish I’d known that before I buttoned it all up! 😉 …
      I’ve been on a bit of a tight deadline with it, weather wise. Not to mention the strange noises I’ve been ignoring coming from my existing engine. I can’t wait to do an autopsy on it!…

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      • S SpookDog
        11 Dec 2023, 20:23

        @MadGyver

        Fux! I wish I’d known that before I buttoned it all up! 😉 …
        I’ve been on a bit of a tight deadline with it, weather wise. Not to mention the strange noises I’ve been ignoring coming from my existing engine. I can’t wait to do an autopsy on it!…

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        SpookDog
        wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 16:35 last edited by SpookDog 12 Dec 2023, 16:39
        #810

        A little tip for people like me who have to ‘apply’ bearings with a hammer and ‘drift’ 🙂

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        Use a jubilee clip to hold in place whatever tool you are using, in my case a screwdriver…

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        Make sure it’s clear of the bearing, especially the race. It allows more of the force to be applied downwards, without worrying so much about slipping and destroying the roller~race. It makes the blows less ‘tentative’, more effective. It really makes a difference…

        If you have a suitable tube then ignore me! 😉 …

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          Calum
          wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 16:52 last edited by
          #811

          I just bought the stearing stem bearing tool.

          https://www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/products/apico-steering-stem-bearing-installation-tool?variation=51559

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • C Calum
            12 Dec 2023, 16:52

            I just bought the stearing stem bearing tool.

            https://www.dirtbikexpress.co.uk/products/apico-steering-stem-bearing-installation-tool?variation=51559

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            SpookDog
            wrote on 12 Dec 2023, 17:32 last edited by SpookDog 12 Dec 2023, 17:33
            #812

            @Calum

            Then ignore me! 😜 …

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            Just found this while looking for some connector blocks and trying to find the proper gauge/amp wire:

            early loom

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            • S SpookDog
              12 Dec 2023, 17:32

              @Calum

              Then ignore me! 😜 …

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              Just found this while looking for some connector blocks and trying to find the proper gauge/amp wire:

              early loom

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              OllieDTR
              wrote on 13 Dec 2023, 19:46 last edited by
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              @SpookDog

              He makes all types of wiring looms for the dts and he’s local to us

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              • S SpookDog
                12 Dec 2023, 17:32

                @Calum

                Then ignore me! 😜 …

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                Just found this while looking for some connector blocks and trying to find the proper gauge/amp wire:

                early loom

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                SpookDog
                wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 13:35 last edited by SpookDog
                #814

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                Just trying to muster energy to strip down for the new motor. Poor old frame hasn’t been tret well by three winters worth of road salt!…

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                Fuxin surface rust everywhere. I dread to think of inside the tubing. I need to get it dipped and coated professionally this spring-summer…

                I’d like to have a different frame to work on really, If anyone knows of a usable frame for sale, please let me know. 👍

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                • S SpookDog
                  16 Dec 2023, 13:35

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                  Just trying to muster energy to strip down for the new motor. Poor old frame hasn’t been tret well by three winters worth of road salt!…

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                  Fuxin surface rust everywhere. I dread to think of inside the tubing. I need to get it dipped and coated professionally this spring-summer…

                  I’d like to have a different frame to work on really, If anyone knows of a usable frame for sale, please let me know. 👍

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                  Calum
                  wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 14:06 last edited by
                  #815

                  @SpookDog I was thinking of getting another frame. I'd like to reshell my '05 into an '88 🤣 By 2028 it'll be MOT/Tax exempt 😛

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  • C Calum
                    16 Dec 2023, 14:06

                    @SpookDog I was thinking of getting another frame. I'd like to reshell my '05 into an '88 🤣 By 2028 it'll be MOT/Tax exempt 😛

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                    SpookDog
                    wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 15:55 last edited by SpookDog
                    #816

                    @Calum

                    Like you need to pinch pennies! 😜

                    I don’t care what year it is as long as it’s not an RE…

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                    Going to peices!…

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                    • S SpookDog
                      16 Dec 2023, 15:55

                      @Calum

                      Like you need to pinch pennies! 😜

                      I don’t care what year it is as long as it’s not an RE…

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                      Going to peices!…

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                      Calum
                      wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 16:45 last edited by
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                      @SpookDog It's not about money, it's the act of having to keep going there. You should have seen the state of my bike when I got it back from them last time. UTTER MONKEYS! Dangerous it was to ride home. And the response "Yeah it would be!" It was fucking sound when I gave it to you 'ya cunts!

                      Anyway, fuming to say the least. And dude! I live a VERY cheap life. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs (like my coffee), don't drive, don't ride my motorbikes (I cycle/run everywhere). I don't go on holiday and I eat baked beans most evenings, not literally but the cheaper the better. What's the result, a few shiny bolts come pay day. If you examine any photo I take of my bikes, they're usually in the same spots. So I pinch every penny for my addiction.

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      • C Calum
                        16 Dec 2023, 16:45

                        @SpookDog It's not about money, it's the act of having to keep going there. You should have seen the state of my bike when I got it back from them last time. UTTER MONKEYS! Dangerous it was to ride home. And the response "Yeah it would be!" It was fucking sound when I gave it to you 'ya cunts!

                        Anyway, fuming to say the least. And dude! I live a VERY cheap life. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs (like my coffee), don't drive, don't ride my motorbikes (I cycle/run everywhere). I don't go on holiday and I eat baked beans most evenings, not literally but the cheaper the better. What's the result, a few shiny bolts come pay day. If you examine any photo I take of my bikes, they're usually in the same spots. So I pinch every penny for my addiction.

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                        SpookDog
                        wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 16:49 last edited by SpookDog
                        #818

                        @Calum

                        Woah there Tiger! I didn’t mean to hit a nerve! Honest! 🙂
                        ☮️ peace!…

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                        I’m getting there! I hate working in the damp though! Everything is filthy. I’ve had to scrub up my hands four times already!…

                        PS RE frames are different aren’t they?…

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                        • S SpookDog
                          16 Dec 2023, 16:49

                          @Calum

                          Woah there Tiger! I didn’t mean to hit a nerve! Honest! 🙂
                          ☮️ peace!…

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                          I’m getting there! I hate working in the damp though! Everything is filthy. I’ve had to scrub up my hands four times already!…

                          PS RE frames are different aren’t they?…

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                          Calum
                          wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 17:01 last edited by
                          #819

                          @SpookDog Yeah man, no sentiment over text. I'm angry about getting my bike back from the MOT'ers in a sorry state not about penny pinching 🤣

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                          • C Calum
                            16 Dec 2023, 17:01

                            @SpookDog Yeah man, no sentiment over text. I'm angry about getting my bike back from the MOT'ers in a sorry state not about penny pinching 🤣

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                            SpookDog
                            wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 18:22 last edited by
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                            @Calum

                            I actually believe that 2T’s are ‘rider sensitive’. Other people can upset the whole… vibe, for want of a less hippy word…

                            Did they work on it at all? Or just manhandle it 🙂 …

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                            • S SpookDog
                              16 Dec 2023, 18:22

                              @Calum

                              I actually believe that 2T’s are ‘rider sensitive’. Other people can upset the whole… vibe, for want of a less hippy word…

                              Did they work on it at all? Or just manhandle it 🙂 …

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                              Calum
                              wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 19:57 last edited by
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                              @SpookDog They decided that the rear wheel wasn't centralised in the swinging arm on my DT, so they fabricated a new rear wheel spacer. This threw the alignment out and when they realised that it would need the front wheel spacers machining, then a new bracket for the caliper being made, they gave up and gave the bike back. It was completely unrideable. Anything over 30mph caused the bike to swerve uncontrollably. I had to ride it back 10 miles below 30MPH. I got it home and the chain had zero slack in whatsoever. I was lucky the rear bearing didn't collapse.

                              The rear wheel wasn't centralised in the rear arm, true, but it was inline with the front wheel and the front and rear sprockets were aligned. The wheel being central to the swinging arm is irrelevant. The bikes been in this configuration for 10+ years. I threw my original spacers back on and got an MOT else where. They charged me over £100 for the "Privilege". Needless to say, I'm sour about the whole experience. I've been going there years, albeit they've never touched any of my bikes.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                              • C Calum
                                16 Dec 2023, 19:57

                                @SpookDog They decided that the rear wheel wasn't centralised in the swinging arm on my DT, so they fabricated a new rear wheel spacer. This threw the alignment out and when they realised that it would need the front wheel spacers machining, then a new bracket for the caliper being made, they gave up and gave the bike back. It was completely unrideable. Anything over 30mph caused the bike to swerve uncontrollably. I had to ride it back 10 miles below 30MPH. I got it home and the chain had zero slack in whatsoever. I was lucky the rear bearing didn't collapse.

                                The rear wheel wasn't centralised in the rear arm, true, but it was inline with the front wheel and the front and rear sprockets were aligned. The wheel being central to the swinging arm is irrelevant. The bikes been in this configuration for 10+ years. I threw my original spacers back on and got an MOT else where. They charged me over £100 for the "Privilege". Needless to say, I'm sour about the whole experience. I've been going there years, albeit they've never touched any of my bikes.

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                                SpookDog
                                wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 20:54 last edited by
                                #822

                                @Calum

                                That is so very fuxed up 😐

                                Swingarms are never symmetrical! They always ‘favour’ the sprocket…
                                I can’t believe they had the front to charge you!!…

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                                  16 Dec 2023, 20:54

                                  @Calum

                                  That is so very fuxed up 😐

                                  Swingarms are never symmetrical! They always ‘favour’ the sprocket…
                                  I can’t believe they had the front to charge you!!…

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                                  SpookDog
                                  wrote on 16 Dec 2023, 20:55 last edited by
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                                  I hope I have the energy tomorrow! Also dry weather 😜 …

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                                    16 Dec 2023, 20:55

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                                    I hope I have the energy tomorrow! Also dry weather 😜 …

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                                    SpookDog
                                    wrote on 17 Dec 2023, 16:43 last edited by SpookDog
                                    #824

                                    I decided to check out the expansion tank overflow, that vents into the left side of the frame.

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                                    The black shniz and a load of water/coolant came out. It’s still spewing out steam when I heat it!
                                    It’s obvious it’s blocked up at some time, but I dread to think of the damage that could happen over time! It goes right down to the 1&1/2 inch main tube that ties the frame together…

                                    There’s no way I’m using the fuxin frame as an overflow again! 18 inches of rubber pipe will be my next ‘upgrade’! 😉

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                                      Calum
                                      wrote on 17 Dec 2023, 19:08 last edited by
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                                      I found the DTR frame to be of a high quality steel and it was very resistant to rot.

                                      My ETX frame on the other hand...Aprilia are usually shit hot when it comes to the quality of their metal, but my frame is in a really bad state!

                                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                        OllieDTR
                                        wrote on 17 Dec 2023, 21:46 last edited by
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                                        I think it all depends what coolant you use aswell for rot on the frame where it goes through, but hey I use to me scared of rust, now I can weld it don’t bother me at all lol

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                                        • C Calum
                                          17 Dec 2023, 19:08

                                          I found the DTR frame to be of a high quality steel and it was very resistant to rot.

                                          My ETX frame on the other hand...Aprilia are usually shit hot when it comes to the quality of their metal, but my frame is in a really bad state!

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                                          SpookDog
                                          wrote on 18 Dec 2023, 12:46 last edited by
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                                          @Calum

                                          It is good steel, even the worst looking just powered off with a grinder& wire wheel…

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