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Swingarm and shock bearings and bushes

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  • D DTGREENLANER

    @DTGREENLANER

    Also at the bottom of the shock between two bushes turns out there is an olive not on the parts diagram and seals?
    Do you know anything to help us get this sorted? I.e how to get seals and new olive in the middle, (bottom of shock)

    Is this an aftermarket shock? Because diagram don’t show up these???![alt text]([image url](link url))

    https://ibb.co/TkJ4Cr2
    https://ibb.co/PgM4LY9
    https://ibb.co/dgzKvzR
    https://ibb.co/mvw35Z0

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    @DTGREENLANER

    https://ibb.co/mNmysh5

    This is the shock I thought had fitted but like i say doesn’t have olive and seals??

    The shock is marked up as “SACHS”

    Please can anyone help lol?

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    • D DTGREENLANER

      @DTGREENLANER

      https://ibb.co/mNmysh5

      This is the shock I thought had fitted but like i say doesn’t have olive and seals??

      The shock is marked up as “SACHS”

      Please can anyone help lol?

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      #13

      @DTGREENLANER

      Got a picture of the shock? I don’t know anything about DTX shocks but the Dtr shock has a ‘ball’ swivel bit inside the bottom mount...

      Dtr settings are:
      Rear suspension unit nuts: 3.3kgf m
      Swing arm nut: 9.0 kgf m
      Linkage nuts are all 5.8kgf m

      Hope this helps some...

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        @DTGREENLANER

        Got a picture of the shock? I don’t know anything about DTX shocks but the Dtr shock has a ‘ball’ swivel bit inside the bottom mount...

        Dtr settings are:
        Rear suspension unit nuts: 3.3kgf m
        Swing arm nut: 9.0 kgf m
        Linkage nuts are all 5.8kgf m

        Hope this helps some...

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        #14

        @SpookDog

        Thanks for the torques settings mate

        Here’s links to the SACHS shock photos and half of it pressed out. My mate says we might struggle to find similar bushes as it has rubber on the inside and splines on the end to keep it in place into the olive and need replacement seals.

        Does seem looking online more that it looks very likely that the dt125re / X was supplied with this shock from factory. But when looking on parts diagrams it’s different and doesn’t mention any of these bits so that I could easily go buy them?

        Have you got any ideas mate?
        Have thought about sourcing a second hand dt125 re SACHS shock, but they could be worn too and would be unable to source the bits in future?
        I can see online that dt125r shock is completely different in dimensions but will fit an RE frame? But even then on the parts diagram to them it doesn’t show that ball swivel you mentioned, just two bushes each side?

        https://ibb.co/KWr8FrF
        https://ibb.co/fQHptzn
        https://ibb.co/0mBNYMZ
        https://ibb.co/dM2ggJV
        https://ibb.co/0Cp65mX
        https://ibb.co/dKq8JKV

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        • D DTGREENLANER

          @SpookDog

          Thanks for the torques settings mate

          Here’s links to the SACHS shock photos and half of it pressed out. My mate says we might struggle to find similar bushes as it has rubber on the inside and splines on the end to keep it in place into the olive and need replacement seals.

          Does seem looking online more that it looks very likely that the dt125re / X was supplied with this shock from factory. But when looking on parts diagrams it’s different and doesn’t mention any of these bits so that I could easily go buy them?

          Have you got any ideas mate?
          Have thought about sourcing a second hand dt125 re SACHS shock, but they could be worn too and would be unable to source the bits in future?
          I can see online that dt125r shock is completely different in dimensions but will fit an RE frame? But even then on the parts diagram to them it doesn’t show that ball swivel you mentioned, just two bushes each side?

          https://ibb.co/KWr8FrF
          https://ibb.co/fQHptzn
          https://ibb.co/0mBNYMZ
          https://ibb.co/dM2ggJV
          https://ibb.co/0Cp65mX
          https://ibb.co/dKq8JKV

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          @DTGREENLANER

          It all depends on how rich you are 🙂 an after market adjustable gas shock is £250~300. A Dtx shock will probably be hard to find. I’ve yet to see a Dtr shock with shot to F bushes. I don’t know why a late model dtx would wear so early. What mileage you got? I’m on 34000 with fine condition bushes...

          I do have a spare Dtr rear shock I could lend you to check fitting, then a second hand Dtr shock is easy to find and not expensive , £30~50...
          EDIT
          RE 2008 model shock for £50 on fleabay , says Sachs on it I think. Put the number in fleabay search:

          304693115806

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            @DTGREENLANER

            It all depends on how rich you are 🙂 an after market adjustable gas shock is £250~300. A Dtx shock will probably be hard to find. I’ve yet to see a Dtr shock with shot to F bushes. I don’t know why a late model dtx would wear so early. What mileage you got? I’m on 34000 with fine condition bushes...

            I do have a spare Dtr rear shock I could lend you to check fitting, then a second hand Dtr shock is easy to find and not expensive , £30~50...
            EDIT
            RE 2008 model shock for £50 on fleabay , says Sachs on it I think. Put the number in fleabay search:

            304693115806

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            @SpookDog

            Haha I’m trying to save good for a house and already got a newish golf and a ninja 600 to look after as well so won’t be buying no gas shock unfortunately lol.

            Ah thank you for the offer mate and for you looking yourself to find me a second hand one! Very kind of you man

            I’ve had a look at that RE one on ebay , messaged him to make sure the bushes feel nice which he says they are so I’ve gone and bought it so I don’t have to faff about any more trying to solve this lol. Thanks again man!

            I got an aftermarket speedo and speedo don’t always work (wish I kept original but was young and stupid lol) but I reckon it’s only on around 15k lol! I have taken it offroading a lot though in the past 😂 had the bike getting on 12 years now lol

            Let’s hope this shocks all good then just gotta do some of the other bushes with my mate then it will be good to ride again
            Cheers

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            • D DTGREENLANER

              @SpookDog

              Haha I’m trying to save good for a house and already got a newish golf and a ninja 600 to look after as well so won’t be buying no gas shock unfortunately lol.

              Ah thank you for the offer mate and for you looking yourself to find me a second hand one! Very kind of you man

              I’ve had a look at that RE one on ebay , messaged him to make sure the bushes feel nice which he says they are so I’ve gone and bought it so I don’t have to faff about any more trying to solve this lol. Thanks again man!

              I got an aftermarket speedo and speedo don’t always work (wish I kept original but was young and stupid lol) but I reckon it’s only on around 15k lol! I have taken it offroading a lot though in the past 😂 had the bike getting on 12 years now lol

              Let’s hope this shocks all good then just gotta do some of the other bushes with my mate then it will be good to ride again
              Cheers

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              @DTGREENLANER

              Alright guys me again lol, replaced pretty much everything rear suspension wise including linkage bushes and seals using genuine Yamaha parts apart from wemoto slinky kit for arm but there is still is the slightest up and down play in the rear arm?

              Is it normal for a tiny bit of up and down play or is it worth stripping down again and investigating?
              Wondering if my mates torque wrench could be out of sync too?
              Not up for years time being loads of play again lol

              didn’t replace the dog bone bolts as they seemed all good, and bushes on shock were tight
              Cheers

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              • D DTGREENLANER

                @DTGREENLANER

                Alright guys me again lol, replaced pretty much everything rear suspension wise including linkage bushes and seals using genuine Yamaha parts apart from wemoto slinky kit for arm but there is still is the slightest up and down play in the rear arm?

                Is it normal for a tiny bit of up and down play or is it worth stripping down again and investigating?
                Wondering if my mates torque wrench could be out of sync too?
                Not up for years time being loads of play again lol

                didn’t replace the dog bone bolts as they seemed all good, and bushes on shock were tight
                Cheers

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                @DTGREENLANER no if it's all done up to spec there should be no play. That's usually one of the first things I check come MOT time, hoist the bike up and over onto the side stand and check the rear arm for play.

                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                • D DTGREENLANER

                  @DTGREENLANER

                  Alright guys me again lol, replaced pretty much everything rear suspension wise including linkage bushes and seals using genuine Yamaha parts apart from wemoto slinky kit for arm but there is still is the slightest up and down play in the rear arm?

                  Is it normal for a tiny bit of up and down play or is it worth stripping down again and investigating?
                  Wondering if my mates torque wrench could be out of sync too?
                  Not up for years time being loads of play again lol

                  didn’t replace the dog bone bolts as they seemed all good, and bushes on shock were tight
                  Cheers

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                  @DTGREENLANER Did you replace the relay arm needle roller bearings where the linkage attaches to the frame?

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                  • CalumC Calum

                    @DTGREENLANER no if it's all done up to spec there should be no play. That's usually one of the first things I check come MOT time, hoist the bike up and over onto the side stand and check the rear arm for play.

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                    @Calum

                    Ok mate cheers

                    Well I won’t bother riding it and we’re go over it again in the week and see if we can get it to zero play.

                    Cheers

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                    • HOTSHOT IIIH HOTSHOT III

                      @DTGREENLANER Did you replace the relay arm needle roller bearings where the linkage attaches to the frame?

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                      @HOTSHOT-III

                      Yeah replaced that mate. Only thing I didn’t replace is the bolt going through there, number 17 on diagram, the two dog bone bolts and shock bushes as bought second hand shock as couldn’t get parts and they seemed all good.

                      Will check it over again and update on here.

                      Someone else on fb said they had similar problem

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