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  • mad73M Offline
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    mad73
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    ok son went out on the nsr the other night and said its not running right so I took it for a spin and its hard to pull away on it its bogging down quite a bit quite dangerous pulling out of junctions but once moving all seems good, also fork sill is leaking which aint much of a prob I changed them a couple of months ago must not of put it in right as the other side is good
    any one got any ideas wot to look for with the bogging jets are correct

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    • CalumC Offline
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      Sounds like way too much air. Tell me does it sound quite deep when you rev it.

      In neutral after its warm, when you blip the throttle does it respond instantly.

      Like this numpty here

      https://youtu.be/MC5sf4Cx4o4

      Says aww 99 octane fuel killed my bike. Uhmm no mate, you can clearly here the snorkel is not in the air box. Clear as day. I don't understand why people remove them lol

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • CarlosrexxC Carlosrexx

        I had a 'full power' NSR foxeye j22 j think it was. Although I never had any problems like yours, the powervalve would stop working all the time and would retard the engine. Sounds similar to what you're experiencing, I just ended up pinning the valve wide open and it never gave me an issue again.

        I'm not saying this is your solution, but it would be something I would take a look at regarding the running issues. With regards to PSI and compression, definitely check everything is bolted down to correct torque settings. Double check everything, make sure the carb is installed tight, no air leaks, proper float movement and clear jets. I know it's all simple stuff but sometimes stuff gets overlooked and it's the simplest thing that's stopping the bike from working.

        http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/RV02-Sachs/NSR 125/ADA2BEBF-043A-46C8-9B71-7A61B3F637ED.jpg

        mad73M Offline
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        @Carlosrexx said:

        I had a 'full power' NSR foxeye j22 j think it was. Although I never had any problems like yours, the powervalve would stop working all the time and would retard the engine. Sounds similar to what you're experiencing, I just ended up pinning the valve wide open and it never gave me an issue again.

        I'm not saying this is your solution, but it would be something I would take a look at regarding the running issues. With regards to PSI and compression, definitely check everything is bolted down to correct torque settings. Double check everything, make sure the carb is installed tight, no air leaks, proper float movement and clear jets. I know it's all simple stuff but sometimes stuff gets overlooked and it's the simplest thing that's stopping the bike from working.

        http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/RV02-Sachs/NSR 125/ADA2BEBF-043A-46C8-9B71-7A61B3F637ED.jpg

        how would I pin open the power valve ? might try this

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        • mad73M mad73

          @Carlosrexx said:

          I had a 'full power' NSR foxeye j22 j think it was. Although I never had any problems like yours, the powervalve would stop working all the time and would retard the engine. Sounds similar to what you're experiencing, I just ended up pinning the valve wide open and it never gave me an issue again.

          I'm not saying this is your solution, but it would be something I would take a look at regarding the running issues. With regards to PSI and compression, definitely check everything is bolted down to correct torque settings. Double check everything, make sure the carb is installed tight, no air leaks, proper float movement and clear jets. I know it's all simple stuff but sometimes stuff gets overlooked and it's the simplest thing that's stopping the bike from working.

          http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/RV02-Sachs/NSR 125/ADA2BEBF-043A-46C8-9B71-7A61B3F637ED.jpg

          how would I pin open the power valve ? might try this

          CalumC Offline
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          Calum
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          #28

          @mad73 pining the valve open will make things much worse.

          If the bike is derestricted then it will want a fully operational powervalve

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • mad73M Offline
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            mad73
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            #29

            yeah fully derestricted its just pulling away where it seems to have a prob

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            • CalumC Calum

              Sounds like way too much air. Tell me does it sound quite deep when you rev it.

              In neutral after its warm, when you blip the throttle does it respond instantly.

              Like this numpty here

              https://youtu.be/MC5sf4Cx4o4

              Says aww 99 octane fuel killed my bike. Uhmm no mate, you can clearly here the snorkel is not in the air box. Clear as day. I don't understand why people remove them lol

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              mad73
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              #30

              @Calum a little bit like that , will have to try and get a video up of it , have to slip the clutch to get it to pull then seems fine , hasn't got great response when revving from idle ,

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                Calum
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                #31

                Sounds to me like too much air, or the air flow is stalling.

                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                • mad73M Offline
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                  mad73
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                  How would I sort that ?

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                  • CalumC Offline
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                    Calum
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                    #33

                    Make sure the snorkel is in there and that there are no sharp turns in the inlet Tracy. It's the bend into the air box that stalls air flow. Hence why snorkels are a must.

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    • CalumC Calum

                      Make sure the snorkel is in there and that there are no sharp turns in the inlet Tracy. It's the bend into the air box that stalls air flow. Hence why snorkels are a must.

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                      mad73
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                      #34

                      @Calum ok will have a play tomorrow if it aint raining , another reason why I need to pull my finger out and get the man cave built , also snorkel is that the breather pipe

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                        mad73
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                        ok had another play today got it running a little better screwed the choke cable right in which made it pull off better still a little lumpy at about 20 to 30 mph gona try a new air filter which might help , tried running with no filter just the box but that didn't help made it worse at least it can pull away now will have to try more once its run in , a few pics of the air box set up and the plug , does the plug look normal ?
                        http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/mad73_2008/IMG_1916_zpsyseldbba.jpg
                        http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/mad73_2008/IMG_1914_zpszf1bbe4c.jpg
                        http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/mad73_2008/IMG_1913_zpssf9qakfq.jpg
                        http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/mad73_2008/IMG_1911_zpspu4mopeh.jpg
                        http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/mad73_2008/IMG_1910_zpsl56toq0d.jpg
                        http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/mad73_2008/IMG_1908_zpsmahlhzx3.jpg

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                          mad73
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                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOVzRCxz4sw
                          how it runs now

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                            Calum
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                            Cool, snorkel is there. If taking The filtration out makes it worse, then it's getting too much air and not enough fuel. If you max out the idle screw movement then you will need to go up a jet size.

                            I have posted a carb tuning tutorial on this forum that will help sort it.

                            If it runs fine with wide open throttle, then you can leave the main jet well alone.

                            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                              I shall have a read of that , the jets are whats recommended for full power nsr, once its run in il take for another spin to see how it run coz asking my son I might as well ask my dog , dog probs knows more and would get a clearer answer lol

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                                Yeah mate. Start with what's recommended and work from there.

                                Remember fuel quality, air temperature and the quality of the components will play it's own part in jetting. Highly strung two strokes are more effected by these changes than less tuned bikes.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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