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  • S SpookDog
    2 Aug 2023, 21:01

    @HOTSHOT-III

    You were right, I had a closer look at the crank. The inside of the small end has ‘damage’ to it. I guess I’m gonna have to save up a couple hundy pennies for a crank before dreaming about new rims 🙂 Them’s the licks…

    I’m seriously thinking about getting the tzr up and running. MoT it and use it, so as I can tear into the Dtr without time constraints. Get the frame dipped and painted and learn how to make a loom! It needs it. I want it to be a righteous little tear~about someday ☠️

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    Calum
    wrote on 3 Aug 2023, 07:06 last edited by
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    @SpookDog Sounds like a winter project to me 🤣 For now you ought to just enjoy it.

    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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    • S SpookDog
      2 Aug 2023, 21:01

      @HOTSHOT-III

      You were right, I had a closer look at the crank. The inside of the small end has ‘damage’ to it. I guess I’m gonna have to save up a couple hundy pennies for a crank before dreaming about new rims 🙂 Them’s the licks…

      I’m seriously thinking about getting the tzr up and running. MoT it and use it, so as I can tear into the Dtr without time constraints. Get the frame dipped and painted and learn how to make a loom! It needs it. I want it to be a righteous little tear~about someday ☠️

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      HOTSHOT III
      wrote on 3 Aug 2023, 12:58 last edited by HOTSHOT III 8 Mar 2023, 14:06
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      @SpookDog Shame about the crank but at least you found out the easy way 👍

      We're probably on for another heatwave after all this rain so keep enjoying the DTR for another couple of months and start stockpiling parts for doing a frame-off nut and bolt rebuild over Winter. I'd be interested to see the TZR project coming along though, always rated them just because IMO the DTR engine platform is one of Yamaha's greatest achievements. Nearly 40 years now since it debuted in the original TZR125 and still being manufactured under licence!

      BTW have you tried Allen Performance for Mikuni Jets? https://www.allensperformance.co.uk/shop/

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        3 Aug 2023, 12:58

        @SpookDog Shame about the crank but at least you found out the easy way 👍

        We're probably on for another heatwave after all this rain so keep enjoying the DTR for another couple of months and start stockpiling parts for doing a frame-off nut and bolt rebuild over Winter. I'd be interested to see the TZR project coming along though, always rated them just because IMO the DTR engine platform is one of Yamaha's greatest achievements. Nearly 40 years now since it debuted in the original TZR125 and still being manufactured under licence!

        BTW have you tried Allen Performance for Mikuni Jets? https://www.allensperformance.co.uk/shop/

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        SpookDog
        wrote on 3 Aug 2023, 17:28 last edited by
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        @HOTSHOT-III

        Wicked resource! But they only start at .30
        I need a .25
        .225 are the most common Dtr jet

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        • S SpookDog
          3 Aug 2023, 17:28

          @HOTSHOT-III

          Wicked resource! But they only start at .30
          I need a .25
          .225 are the most common Dtr jet

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          SpookDog
          wrote on 3 Aug 2023, 18:15 last edited by SpookDog 8 Mar 2023, 20:05
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          I’ve just found a really wicked way of seating tubeless tyres onto the rims!
          Unscrew the pfieffer (sp?) valve and give a quick squirt of easy start into the valve (I used the top & straw off a wd40 can) only half a second!! Then using a blow torch at arms length, light the end of the valve. There’s a loud pop! as the bead seats, then a long hiisssssssss! as the excess pressure vents through the hollow valve! It’s a bit Leary but it works a treat 😎

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          Beads settled and tyres inflated, just trying the test of time now (till morning 🤞)

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          Showcasing the gates I spent the last month making for my Sis! Recycled crap and £20 worth of fence post wood! Just doing my JC thing 😇 (carpentry, burning bush & beer!!)
          Hence why I’ve not gotten shnit done on the bike…

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            Calum
            wrote on 4 Aug 2023, 06:48 last edited by Calum 8 Apr 2023, 07:49
            #629

            What are these wheels for?

            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            • S SpookDog
              3 Aug 2023, 18:15

              I’ve just found a really wicked way of seating tubeless tyres onto the rims!
              Unscrew the pfieffer (sp?) valve and give a quick squirt of easy start into the valve (I used the top & straw off a wd40 can) only half a second!! Then using a blow torch at arms length, light the end of the valve. There’s a loud pop! as the bead seats, then a long hiisssssssss! as the excess pressure vents through the hollow valve! It’s a bit Leary but it works a treat 😎

              alt text

              Beads settled and tyres inflated, just trying the test of time now (till morning 🤞)

              alt text

              Showcasing the gates I spent the last month making for my Sis! Recycled crap and £20 worth of fence post wood! Just doing my JC thing 😇 (carpentry, burning bush & beer!!)
              Hence why I’ve not gotten shnit done on the bike…

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              HOTSHOT III
              wrote on 4 Aug 2023, 09:06 last edited by HOTSHOT III 8 Apr 2023, 10:07
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              @SpookDog Gates look ace, very well made 👍

              I was cycling the other day, a wasp got stuck underneath my helmet and stung me about 6 times in the time it took me to stop and take my helmet off and tread on the flying yobbo. So assuming I can locate where they hang out, I'd be most grateful if you don't use up all the Easy Start 🔥

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                4 Aug 2023, 06:48

                What are these wheels for?

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                MadGyver
                wrote on 4 Aug 2023, 12:25 last edited by
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                @Calum
                Probably TZR250 2MA.

                I need my tools and a pile of junk.....

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                  Calum
                  wrote on 4 Aug 2023, 17:51 last edited by
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                  I meant, are they for you DT or are they for another project?

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  • H HOTSHOT III
                    4 Aug 2023, 09:06

                    @SpookDog Gates look ace, very well made 👍

                    I was cycling the other day, a wasp got stuck underneath my helmet and stung me about 6 times in the time it took me to stop and take my helmet off and tread on the flying yobbo. So assuming I can locate where they hang out, I'd be most grateful if you don't use up all the Easy Start 🔥

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                    SpookDog
                    wrote on 4 Aug 2023, 20:07 last edited by SpookDog 8 Apr 2023, 21:10
                    #633

                    @HOTSHOT-III

                    I usually end up with them between my shoulder blades! It’s happened a few times in the last two summers! They must get sucked back there on a vortex and I end up doing ‘The Dance’ on the side of the road.⚡️☠️⚡️

                    @Calum

                    Tzr125rr (4HW) The 1994 one that used a 3vx 250 frame…

                    PS They stayed inflated as well! It’s a handy technique I found on YouTube. I just refined it a little 🙂 …

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                    • S SpookDog
                      3 Aug 2023, 17:28

                      @HOTSHOT-III

                      Wicked resource! But they only start at .30
                      I need a .25
                      .225 are the most common Dtr jet

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                      markus.w
                      wrote on 5 Aug 2023, 20:03 last edited by markus.w 8 May 2023, 21:05
                      #634

                      @SpookDog try KMT products limited. British made jets by a Northamptonshire company. Top quality too. Unlike the Chinese copies and they start at .10.
                      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273888042871?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=RUUIcrapSsS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=7ztfcrwyt6w&var=573711906965&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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                        OllieDTR
                        wrote on 5 Aug 2023, 23:18 last edited by
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                        Hi guys sorry Abit off topic here

                        Just picked up a dtr from my mate, it had the ktm style front light on it, the wires are

                        Green = Ground
                        White = High beam
                        Blue = Low beam
                        Brown = Sidelight

                        I can get sidelight working when ignition key is turned and also the normal beam headlight but the switch doesn’t do anything, the wires have previously been cut, I’m just wondering if anyone has a picture of the wiring colours for headlight and the switch the switch looks like a Newer 2003+ one

                        I’ll put some pictures up if it lets me
                        Cheers !
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                          OllieDTR
                          wrote on 5 Aug 2023, 23:20 last edited by
                          #636

                          Here is the wires for ktm style headlight what ones would I connect for it all to work above is the wires that’s at the front of the bike
                          Not use to all this cut wires but I don’t want to get a new loom just for 4 wires for headlight lolalt text

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                            5 Aug 2023, 23:20

                            Here is the wires for ktm style headlight what ones would I connect for it all to work above is the wires that’s at the front of the bike
                            Not use to all this cut wires but I don’t want to get a new loom just for 4 wires for headlight lolalt text

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                            SpookDog
                            wrote on 6 Aug 2023, 12:05 last edited by
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                            @OllieDTR

                            On my dtr125
                            Black: earth
                            Green: headlight
                            Yellow:headlight
                            Blue/Red: sidelight

                            Don’t remember what colour is main or dip, just experiment 🙂 …

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                              6 Aug 2023, 12:05

                              @OllieDTR

                              On my dtr125
                              Black: earth
                              Green: headlight
                              Yellow:headlight
                              Blue/Red: sidelight

                              Don’t remember what colour is main or dip, just experiment 🙂 …

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                              SpookDog
                              wrote on 9 Aug 2023, 13:36 last edited by
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                              Got a new crank ordered from PJME. Just waiting on it now. Need to get a bolt lug welding on to the flywheel side of the crank casing and I’ll be good to start building this thing…

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                                9 Aug 2023, 13:36

                                Got a new crank ordered from PJME. Just waiting on it now. Need to get a bolt lug welding on to the flywheel side of the crank casing and I’ll be good to start building this thing…

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                                SpookDog
                                wrote on 9 Aug 2023, 17:10 last edited by SpookDog 8 Sept 2023, 18:13
                                #639

                                Waiting on the flywheel puller now. There’s some noise from that sides bearing, maybe. It might be the starter clutch ring though. I don’t have any experience of elecy start lumps. So I want to remove the flywheel and starter clutch-ring stuff and see how it sounds without all that gumpf.
                                There’s no (up/down) movement in the crankshaft apart from a bit of side to side, which I can’t say I remember ever seeing before. I don’t know if that’s normal?…

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                                  Calum
                                  wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 09:25 last edited by
                                  #640

                                  Crankshaft? Or Connecting rod?

                                  There should be some side float, no up/down movement.

                                  The starter bendix will make some noise, but otherwise it should be silent.

                                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                    10 Aug 2023, 09:25

                                    Crankshaft? Or Connecting rod?

                                    There should be some side float, no up/down movement.

                                    The starter bendix will make some noise, but otherwise it should be silent.

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                                    SpookDog
                                    wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 10:29 last edited by SpookDog 8 Oct 2023, 11:34
                                    #641

                                    @Calum

                                    Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread. Meant to be in the Tzr forum…

                                    I meant crank movement, only the tiniest bit 🙂 …

                                    Bendix? Sounds like something Uri Geller would do in the bedroom! 😳 …

                                    While I’ve gotten some free time I’m gonna tackle the water pump seal on the dtr. I’ve been meaning to for a while now. The oil has an opaque milky look to it where it’s been emulsified with the coolant.
                                    I need the new seal I have for the tizzer now though. Luckily I’ve got a spare clutch casing with good pump seal, ect…

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                                      10 Aug 2023, 10:29

                                      @Calum

                                      Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread. Meant to be in the Tzr forum…

                                      I meant crank movement, only the tiniest bit 🙂 …

                                      Bendix? Sounds like something Uri Geller would do in the bedroom! 😳 …

                                      While I’ve gotten some free time I’m gonna tackle the water pump seal on the dtr. I’ve been meaning to for a while now. The oil has an opaque milky look to it where it’s been emulsified with the coolant.
                                      I need the new seal I have for the tizzer now though. Luckily I’ve got a spare clutch casing with good pump seal, ect…

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                                      SpookDog
                                      wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 10:56 last edited by SpookDog 8 Oct 2023, 11:56
                                      #642

                                      One thing I’ve noticed from working on the Tzr are the handy bits of steel clip/bracketing that holds the wiring near the front sprocket in place. Even for the gearbox breather tube. There are loads of other guides and clips missing from my bike. I would really like to know where they all go so as I can try and replace them…
                                      Anyone got ideas of how to find them out , short of doing a walk around a totally standard survivor bike?…

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                                        Calum
                                        wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 11:02 last edited by
                                        #643

                                        Are they not itemised on the exploading diagrams?

                                        https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/main/img/assemblies/large/016ee6130ef8ca51319e1cded43b55e0.png

                                        As an example:
                                        https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4111561/tzr125-4fl1-1993-999-a/crankcase

                                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                          10 Aug 2023, 11:02

                                          Are they not itemised on the exploading diagrams?

                                          https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/main/img/assemblies/large/016ee6130ef8ca51319e1cded43b55e0.png

                                          As an example:
                                          https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4111561/tzr125-4fl1-1993-999-a/crankcase

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                                          SpookDog
                                          wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 11:08 last edited by SpookDog 8 Oct 2023, 12:13
                                          #644

                                          @Calum

                                          I’ve never looked specifically, but nothing has ever caught my attention before while looking. I’ll have to check…

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                                          Damn this has gotten a lot worse than before!…
                                          That is some pusstulant looking ‘goo~oil’!!…

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