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    I had black panels from him for the black DTR in my avatar but iirc they were smaller than the genuine items so wouldnt use them on a 100% stock resto

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      If he did a colour match I would use them, but would still be searching for originals. Have some of the white panels from him that I used when my son was riding the dt to protect the red bodywork in storage.

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      @oldman a good paint shop could match the red and smooth off them. I've seen a few wr200 and wr500 projects where they do that because parts are very rare

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        Yes but paint doesn't stick to flexible plastic very well for very long

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          Yes but paint doesn't stick to flexible plastic very well for very long

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          scrimsmustang
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          @nottsbiker said in 1988 rebuild update:

          Yes but paint doesn't stick to flexible plastic very well for very long

          It does if you do it properly and use 2k plastic primer !

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            Personal experience is for replacement (new) panels as the colour will be better and the finish more resilient.

            I know that there are flexo-plast type primers that can be used by my own experience of them has been that the paint still crazes and cracks, especially around mounting points and cannot adhere where a panel bends.

            My knowledge is old and possibly out of date but I have worked in the industry (Dream Machine) back in the day.

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              Personal experience is for replacement (new) panels as the colour will be better and the finish more resilient.

              I know that there are flexo-plast type primers that can be used by my own experience of them has been that the paint still crazes and cracks, especially around mounting points and cannot adhere where a panel bends.

              My knowledge is old and possibly out of date but I have worked in the industry (Dream Machine) back in the day.

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              @nottsbiker said in 1988 rebuild update:

              Personal experience is for replacement (new) panels as the colour will be better and the finish more resilient.

              I know that there are flexo-plast type primers that can be used by my own experience of them has been that the paint still crazes and cracks, especially around mounting points and cannot adhere where a panel bends.

              My knowledge is old and possibly out of date but I have worked in the industry (Dream Machine) back in the day.

              Your experience is definitely out of date. Painted panels are a lot more durable than brand new panels if they are done properly with 2k plastic primer then 2k primer and 2k top coat, I paint mudguards and sidepanels for old air cooled DT,s for people all over the country who are restoring there bikes as they are NLA new even used are hard to get and they never crack if they craze thats a reaction to crap on the plastic. All you have to do is look at a new panel and its scratched or marked however like you I use new when I restore my own bikes if I can. I can tell you now you will never replace the Red plastics with new ones these days you might find the od new piece here and there on the internet. I struggled to get a full set years ago and I had access to the Yamaha system back then.

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                Like i said my knowledge is 15+ years out of date and was based on employment and personal experience.

                Glad to hear things have improved as like you say some colours have faded into history (pun intended).

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                  Found the side panel original decals but cannot find the scoops decals anywhere, new or reproduction ones. Anyone have any tips .?
                  Thanks

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                    What do you know! Found some in Italy! Result😁

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                      Received call today about my wheels, rear complete but front spokes still to arrive from Yamaha, so 50% success I guess

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                        Received call today about my wheels, rear complete but front spokes still to arrive from Yamaha, so 50% success I guess

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                        @oldman

                        Found one of the Red tank panels, its in Switzerland. Heres the link

                        http://www.motorradhandel-schweiz.ch/detail/detail.cfm?id=7912&form_kundennr=1184&auswahl=7

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                          @oldman

                          Found one of the Red tank panels, its in Switzerland. Heres the link

                          http://www.motorradhandel-schweiz.ch/detail/detail.cfm?id=7912&form_kundennr=1184&auswahl=7

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                          @scrimsmustang Thanks for the link, sent request for purchase, you are a star, and this arrived in the post today.0_1503691687566_20170825_205023.jpg
                          Also been looking for grey seat/cover but the ones I have seen all look darker than the sales brochure pics. Can you recommend someone to supply?
                          Thanks again, very much appreciated

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                            @scrimsmustang Thanks for the link, sent request for purchase, you are a star, and this arrived in the post today.0_1503691687566_20170825_205023.jpg
                            Also been looking for grey seat/cover but the ones I have seen all look darker than the sales brochure pics. Can you recommend someone to supply?
                            Thanks again, very much appreciated

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                            @oldman the place I got mine from do grey have you tried ebay?

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                              @oldman the place I got mine from do grey have you tried ebay?

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                              @declan in the sales books I have seen colour is light grey, only seen dark grey on eBay, do you have a link?

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                                @declan in the sales books I have seen colour is light grey, only seen dark grey on eBay, do you have a link?

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                                @oldman @scrimsmustang is probably going to be your best bet for this one.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                  @declan in the sales books I have seen colour is light grey, only seen dark grey on eBay, do you have a link?

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                                  @oldman http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-DT-R-50-125-200-Grey-Seat-Cover-1988-2003-NEW-YSC-06-/162636451123?hash=item25dde34d33%3Ag%3A7oEAAOSw6dNWS0zx&_trkparms=pageci%253Abb5870fa-89e9-11e7-807b-74dbd180f382%257Cparentrq%253A1ba3a16f15e0a9c40dde9747ffff6c45%257Ciid%253A2

                                  Looks pretty light

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                                    @oldman http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-DT-R-50-125-200-Grey-Seat-Cover-1988-2003-NEW-YSC-06-/162636451123?hash=item25dde34d33%3Ag%3A7oEAAOSw6dNWS0zx&_trkparms=pageci%253Abb5870fa-89e9-11e7-807b-74dbd180f382%257Cparentrq%253A1ba3a16f15e0a9c40dde9747ffff6c45%257Ciid%253A2

                                    Looks pretty light

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                                    @declan said in 1988 rebuild update:

                                    @oldman http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-DT-R-50-125-200-Grey-Seat-Cover-1988-2003-NEW-YSC-06-/162636451123?hash=item25dde34d33%3Ag%3A7oEAAOSw6dNWS0zx&_trkparms=pageci%253Abb5870fa-89e9-11e7-807b-74dbd180f382%257Cparentrq%253A1ba3a16f15e0a9c40dde9747ffff6c45%257Ciid%253A2

                                    Looks pretty light

                                    Thats the same as the ones I used on my Red and Purple ones. They are OK but the writing is Black on a Purple one.

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                                      Seat cover ordered, at a loose end waiting(still) for my wheels, thought I would start on the white 89. Sidestand bent so thought I would whip that off to straighten out. Bolt loose (I thought) and removed sidestand, after straightening went to refit and thread shot in sidestand, hence the loose bolt. Wonder what else I will find?

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                                        Seat cover ordered, at a loose end waiting(still) for my wheels, thought I would start on the white 89. Sidestand bent so thought I would whip that off to straighten out. Bolt loose (I thought) and removed sidestand, after straightening went to refit and thread shot in sidestand, hence the loose bolt. Wonder what else I will find?

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                                        @oldman

                                        Did you get any joy with the Red panel in Switzerland ?

                                        You have a White 89
                                        http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-SIDE-PANEL-GRAPHIX-DECAL-DTRE12-DT-125-RE-DT125-1989-3MB-21781-00-/372012742332?hash=item569daff6bc:g:RFwAAOSwmFNZaQZF

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                                          @oldman

                                          Did you get any joy with the Red panel in Switzerland ?

                                          You have a White 89
                                          http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-SIDE-PANEL-GRAPHIX-DECAL-DTRE12-DT-125-RE-DT125-1989-3MB-21781-00-/372012742332?hash=item569daff6bc:g:RFwAAOSwmFNZaQZF

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                                          @scrimsmustang Hello, apologies for the delay in replying, I emailed them in English and German, also spoke to them but couldn't communicate effectively. Going to try again next week with an interpreter! German speaking friend of a friend. Have also found panels elsewhere listed 2 x scoops and mudguard, ordered and hoping they are correct (stock nos match) received the 1990 decals and grey seat cover and picked up my wheels today YAAAAAAY, if my friend back from holiday hope to have tyres fitted this weekend. Also received vehicle history from DVLA, sold in London first, went to Dunstable, back to London, then surrey, back to london, and then to me. Colour change registered 26.05.91 and new engine 06.09.91, never paid much attention as frame ends in 01459 and engine 00540, so somewhere there is an engine that matches my frame no. Is the engine no early production? Not sure how the vin nos work. Busy weekend fitting seat cover, red fork guards and getting tyres done hopefully0_1504795478356_1504795432029312195421.jpg

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