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  • dt125r carb
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    You can also try a Delorto VHSA32 which is a 32mm carb used on the TZR 4DL which shares the same engine as the DT125R.

    Only putting it out there, if it were me, I'd go for a tm28ss which is standard on DT125R from 1991 as Darty says.

    The jetting changed in around 1996 as well but that will depend on the conditions of where you ride so you'll have to experiment with that.

    Carburetor

  • Wheelies at night
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Very nicely put together video! Just a hobby or editing a job? Was the mist nationwide then? I'm in sussex and it was Crazeeeee...

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  • The new guy
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Welcome to the forum! Look forward to seeing some pics and hearing about the bike.

    General Discussion

  • advice needed on pinning power valve
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    I've never actually looked at the setup of a non pulley version.

    What's on the inner side of part 20 in the diagram. Looks like it's already fitted to the end of the end cap. Does it have a diamond shape that holds onto the end of the valve itself?

    From the parts diagram it doesn't look like there is a separate pin so I would guess not. If it came apart then im sure Yamaha would have listed with it's own part number. So unless your end cap or part 20 is broken then it should all be fine. Try fit it all together and then put your finger up the barrel and try and move the valve.

    Engine

  • Yamaha XT600E 1994 3TB
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    @Jens-Eskildsen

    Oh hell yeah now thats a nice looking bike IMO.

    I much prefer it with the off road wheels. I see you have an acerbis tank for it then and you're lucky enough to have the later one (4TP is it?) so you can still get the tank and mounts.

    Thats great to know that theres nothing major to worry about and yeah, I'll be religiously servicing/ greasing those suspension linkage and swing arm bearings! Thanks for the heads up. I think any bike that uses a similar set up should be sold with a grease gun as part of the tool kit!

    Other

  • Hel Performance Brake Lines - £30
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    @Jens-Eskildsen Yeah I know what you mean and I'm sure you are right. I suppose it's just an area where companys can make extra profit knowning how people feel about "more money meaning better quality".

    It probably isnt any safer or less likely to have issues but it's the name and brand and the big boys on race bikes that have invested in branded companies like HEL that make us happy to pay for it.

    Yeah on that offer it was 50% off all online orders. So it was £29.99 per set ( £60 for both) but then 50% off bringing the total order back down to £29.99 which was a total steal. Meant you can get HEL quality lines for less than the cost of unbranded. Now those are the deals I like!! 🙂

    You seem like a very clued up guy so hope you don't feel like anyones putting you down for putting an opinion across. I personally value anyones educated opinions and experiences, i see it as the fundamentals of a progressive society, but hey lets not get too deep here, this is bikes!

    Brakes

  • Hel Performance Brake Lines - £30
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    @Jens-Eskildsen Have you used them before and know them to be good? A set of front and back brake lines for less than £30 from an unbranded company would worry me.

    Brakes

  • Yamaha XT600E 1994 3TB
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    @Darty You should do it! My mate is currently trying to buy a ex round the world bike which i think is a drz400. A couple of guys rode their bikes all around the world and now its sitting about and somehow my friends found out and wants to buy it.

    We we're over the other side of the new forest the other week picking up a ninja for him to break and there was the bottom end of a DRZ650 sitting on the side in the workshop. It looked crazy big! They also had maruez' moto3 race bike sitting there too but our attempt to purchase it was unsuccesful!

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  • Yamaha XT600E 1994 3TB
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    @Jens-Eskildsen Wow! Thanks for the reply. Sounds like you have a sturdy bike there. Where abouts are you and what model do you have?

    If you have any advice or anything thats worth knowing then I'd be very appreciative to hear it. I'm still learning alot about the bike but have seen alot online about how durable they are, especially the engine.

    I was following a thread on another forum of someone who had some similar kind of km on their bike and hadnt done any engine work at all!

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  • Chain rollers....
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    When I've been looking for rubber typre bushes for my xt600 tank mounts ive noticed quite a lot of places have a fair selection of polyeurathene*?? bushes.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-XT600-XT-TT600-Tenere-Chain-Roller-Guide-Kit-Kettenrolle-Schwingenschutz-/161492108864?hash=item2599ae0640:g:1B8AAOSwQJhUjvlX

    Here's a link to some for the XT600, not sure on the size for the DT but i know the xt shares some parts.

    Framework

  • Yamaha XT600E 1994 3TB
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Nice one! I don't know why i hadnt checked there! Might rebuild a full linkage then! cheers.

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  • Hel Performance Brake Lines - £30
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Update: just ordered a set of hoses, 10 bleep nipples to hoard, 10 bleep nipple covers, some copper washers.

    Thanks for the heads up. All up £45 delivered! awesome.

    Brakes

  • Hel Performance Brake Lines - £30
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Well done and tanks for posting!

    Brakes

  • Yamaha XT600E 1994 3TB
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Yeah I know the one, have seen quite a few on ebay when im searching for parts etc. They seem quite desirable and theres quite a following for them. Thats a shame as it probably would have been good some parts.

    I can imagine kicking them wont be fun, although I'm not sure if that model had a decompression attachment which would have made it alot harder. I'm fitting the kickstart as a back up more than anything.

    With regards to the offroad stuff I wouldnt know as I've only ridden it around the block so far. They are considered enduros by a lot of people but I certainly wouldnt be using it for any kind of technical trails etc. Merely as an option to ride on surfaces other than smooth tarmac if i go travelling abroad on it.

    They certainly are quite heavy bikes at 156kg dry. I mean compared to the DT which is about 120 dry but from the small amount of riding I've done it felt quite manouvreable and I'm sure I could improve that fair amount with progressive springs front and back and some weight reductions like the tank and silencer.

    Other

  • Quasar Products Eazy Rizer Bike lift + my 2 latest arrivals!
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    That mount on the side thats at a funny angle just left and below the footpeg is a clamp for the side stand. You can use get mountings that sit under each wheel and lift it by those and then the side stand is clamped down to keep it stable.

    I prefer lifting from the frame under the engine at the moment as it means i can take the wheels out and work on all areas.

    But I've now got the footpeg lifting mounts, which use plates below the peg and a U clamp from above and then supported by a small mount under the front of the frame.

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  • Quasar Products Eazy Rizer Bike lift + my 2 latest arrivals!
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    Very stable, it has hooks with butterfly nuts on that you hook over the frame underneath and tighten up to hold it down. check out their video's on youtube. They pull the bike around on the stand. Also a guy on a forum I found when i was researching, said he crashed his truck into his harley whilst it was fully up and it just moved the whole thing and didn't topple.

    In terms of storage it doesn't fold away at all. The lift part drops right to the bottom and it obviously keeps the same floor space. It weighs about 25kg but I can lift it and carry it around if needed.

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  • Yamaha XT600E 1994 3TB
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    I've always wanted a bigger adventure / enduro style bike. A friend had an xt660z a few years ago that actually got stolen but i loved the idea of it. The money was a big thing though. His was worth about 12 times what i paid for mine! Recently he's bought an XT600R and has been kitting it out again for big trips. I was jealous to say the least but short on funds as they were all tied up in my Rd350LC project, 4DL series 1 project and other DT parts that were filling my garage.

    So I was on ebay and found this xt600e 1994 model and it was cheap. It had no MOT but was in a 'runs and rides' state.

    I negotiated a price with the seller and went and bought it. The rear tyre wasnt sitting right and there was a small dent in the rim but it didnt seem relevant to the tyre. There was some place in the suspension linkage ( my pet hate). It had been resprayed all over in blue which I wasnt keen on but it probably looked better than it did before!

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    After i got it home and had a check over in the garage I thought I'd book it in for an mot and see whats what. I stuck a jerry can of petrol in that had been sitting in my garage and away i went. It was running like a dog. lump, back firing and even cutting out! What? Oh well, get it through the mot and then see, i thought, its probably just old fuel from that can.

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    It failed on the rear tyre not seating properly and the suspension linkage, surprisingly ....which was a relief really. I knew I wasnt going to be able to do it within the 10 days but I also was annoyed at the mot place as I know them and they said they would just blow the tyre back on the rim and they didnt even try...

    So I ordered a set of Continental Escapes as recommended by my friend with the 660.

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    I found a 2nd hand linkage on ebay that "had no play". When it turned up it came still attached to the swing arm and shock! Great!!!

    ...Oh... it does have play in. I tried a straight swap with my parts and the play was about the same. I swapped around various bits to make one good linkage out of the two. It got rid of a lot of the play but still not what i felt would be good enough for an mot.

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    I ordered some brand new parts from Fowlers which again made a difference but were only the solid bushes and not the nylon collars that sit inside the relay arm as the cost for all of those was really adding up and i wasn't 100% sure which one/s was/were the issue. I moved on for the time being whilst deciding what to do.

    Along with the linkage/arm and from the same guy I got a new airbox as mine was missing the top section and snorkel. He wouldnt sell it seperatly and it was about £30 so fine...

    ...when i went to fit it I realised that what had been stuff in place of the snorkel was a DNA air filter! with a stock one in place. So I cleaned up the DNA but noticed it's missing its sealing edge. I still need to sort that but a nice find!

    Next I started looking at the carbs. Took em off and the bowl was full of bits! Thats probably why it was running lumpy and kept cutting out on the way to the MOT!

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    I cleaned it all up and thought I'd check the float needle condition and make sure the floats weren't holding fuel. Thats where it went bad! the part of the carb body where the float pivot pin goes into was broken! Damnit!

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    At this point I was getting excited and looking at all sorts of modifications I could do to improve it and heard about the oversized Acerbis petrol tanks made from plastic. They were about £260 but for my model bike they are no longer available. DAMNIT!

    Then by chance I saw an XT600 listed up on ebay about £750 as an import from Norway with no paper. Kicks over fine but doesn't start and is missing some parts. But wait...the tank on it is one of these elusive Acerbis 90-94 20L plastic Tanks!

    I messaged the buyer to try and buy the tank and a few other parts but it wasn't happening! He wanted it gone as complete bike. I negotiated it down to £450 and arranged a courier for £105. So all up it owes me £550. I'll take the parts I want/need and break the rest of it.

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    This also gave me another chance to play with the suspension linkage and carbs. So i swapped and changed and got even better on the linkage side of things. I swapped the shock and clevis across and I now feel comfortable with that. I think there is a minute amount still there and may well rebuild a new lnkage relay arm over this year incase the play gets worse again.

    Whilst I was trying to sort the Sus linkage I noticed that the chain was dead, like you could almost lift it off the back of the rear sprocket! Apparently this wasn't a problem on the mot. For various reasons I won't be going back to that mot tester (other issues) but this was pretty bad too!

    Ordered a new DID chain and either JT or sunstar sprocket kit from Wemoto along with some other bits like oil filter, carb repair kit, magnetic sump plug. I had to buy a Chain tool and went for a draper. Got the hang of it after some youtube videos and it seems to have done the job. Not sure if the riveter pin has faired too well but ill find out next time. It's a lot of pressure needed to flare the rivets which I've never done before. Always dealt with the clip link type.

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    On the carb front by now I had bought a Ultrasonic Cleaner. Its a 6 litre model and is a lot smaller than i expected. You only get like 4-4.5 litre in it as there is a max fill line but it does what I need now so im happy. (£85 on ebay IIRC).

    So i took the carbs off the donor bike and put them in the US cleaner. After a good clean up they ended up being more viable as they were, rather than trying to combine the 2 sets. That was suprising considering they were spray painted black...yes...the carbs were spray painted black!

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    Back on the bike and it wont even start now!

    Balls....

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    After killing the battery a number of times and having to wait for it to charge (it was very cold) I eventually found that the HT lead wasn't clipping on well enough on top of the spark plug...sounds silly now i type it but it was a right hassle at the time. By the time i found that, id killed the battery again. After a charge on the optimate over night i went out, battery on, choke on, press the button and pop pop pop, first press!

    http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/andyyam1/media/Xt600E build plus Xt600k/IMG_0045_zpsl6ay7w2j.mp4.html

    I warmed it up and the tried to adjust the pilot screw but even with it screwed all the way in it wasn't making much difference. So I'm sure I need to mess about with it a bit more soon but its running nicely which is good!

    This was all done with the plastic tank just sitting loosely on the bike. When i finally tried to fit it securely I found that there is supposed to be a mounting kit with the tank that...you guessed it...I dont appear to have.

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    After contacting the guy who is regarded as the UK expert on XT's (and believe me he is!) I found out what they look like but also that they don't make them anymore. He says they do come up on ebay occasionally but also mentioned that he doesn't have enough to go with the tanks he has, so competition will be stiff when they do come up.

    So I've got a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who owns a favour, who might be able to make me something up that'll work. I managed to get technical drawings of them online from Germany so i guess people are making them up themselves.

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    So with that tank out of action until I get the mounting kit I thought, no problem, ill put the original metal one back on. I thought i better check the fuel coming out of it and it turns out its full of rust!

    ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

    Quick google and everything points towards sealing the tank or replacing. Fuel filters wont block much and cleaning them wont be a long term solution. I decided to give it a go. I bought about 3-4 litres of distilled vinegar and after a long soak and shaking with the old chain inside, theres lots of loose stuff coming out and the colour is...well...i think i invented a new colour.

    I then rinsed it with half the contents of my water butt and them some petrol. The output gradually got cleaner and cleaner and there appeared to be none of the red globules of rust that was the initial concern. Once i was happy (enough) with the cleanliness of what was coming out I put it back on the bike, fitted an in line fuel filter and connected it back up. It seems to be running well so hopefully that will get me through the mot and until I can secure the Acerbis tank properly.

    I still need to bleed the brakes, maybe refresh the fluid, but other than that it's pretty much ready for an MOT.

    So that's the back story...and here's where I'm at now:

    I've got some larger footpegs on their way. Cheap at £16 but steel. They'll mean I can lift it on the Eazy Rizer better, by using the footpeg mounts to lift it. Yeah that sounds weird? Check out Eazy Rizer bike lifts!

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    I'm planning to swap all the black plastics across from the donor bike.

    I'm also planning on fitting the kickstart from the donor. It's an XT600K (K for kick start) and mine is an XT600E ( E for electric start) and you can fit the kicker across similar to the old DT125RE mod. A decompression lever is needed which is attached to the kick start and operates at the same time.

    I didn't yet mention but the bike came with a spare engine which turns out to be the original one for the bike and matches the frame. So i expect ill rebuild that over time and re fit it in it's rightful place.

    I have plenty of other plans for it including:

    • -remodelling the seat and making it more comfy
      -replacing the imitation renthals with real ones
      -fitting some nice hand guards
      -fitting a better sump guard
      -finding a rack. (ive bought one from ebay that says its for a 94 but im not convinced. awaiting delivery.
      -Getting some soft luggage for the sides.
      -installing some better LED spot lights
      -upgrading the gear lever and brake lever
      -rebuilding caliper ( rear appears to be the same as a DT125R as are a few other parts)
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  • Quasar Products Eazy Rizer Bike lift + my 2 latest arrivals!
    AndyYamA AndyYam

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  • Quasar Products Eazy Rizer Bike lift + my 2 latest arrivals!
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    So long story short I've got myself an XT600. Always wanted an adventure style larger bike and one came up. Then i bought another as a donor bike.

    But the point of this post is to show off my new lift.

    I was looking for a table but was hesitant as i like to move stuff around a lot and wasn't sure about taking up so much space in the garage on a permanent basis. Then on ebay i stumbled across this and bought it.

    It's an EazyRizer made in England by Quasar Procucts Ltd.

    This one lifts up to 350kg and there are loads of different mounts available.

    It's a really simple bit of kit but very useful. Well worth a youtube search for 'Eazy rizer'.

    http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/andyyam1/IMG_0037_zpstlrv9jy4.jpg
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  • Stolen - please keep eye out
    AndyYamA AndyYam

    So sorry to hear this. I've yet to have a motorbike stolen but a friend had an XT660Z with ALL the extras on it, stolen. Police suggested that many targeted bike thefts are by gangs who take them straight across the channel and into europe.

    I really wouldnt hold out much hope for getting them back but obviously im sure everyone will keep an eye out/ ear to the ground.

    Obviously it doesn't help now but all you can do is take away what you can from it for the future. I'm sure it feels like you dont want another bike but at some point you will and at that point:

    -Do all you can to keep the bike inside and out of view.
    -Get fully comp insurance
    -Get CCTV or even dummy ones pointed at the bike.
    -Use ground anchors, a certified chain and lock and keep both off the floor ( most of the time they use a sledge hammer and a chisel to whack straigh through the lock. If you can keep it off the floor it becomes very difficult and requires cutting discs which is too slow)
    -The basic idea is to slow them down, if it looks too difficult they wont try.

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