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Dt170 vs ktm exc 125

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  • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

    @calum but you believe a crm is 30 bhp and a Yamaha dt 20 bhp? How is that difference even possible?

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    Calum
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    #63

    @irongamer727 No, I never said the CRM was 30 lol

    Pretty sure no one did.

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    • declanD declan

      @irongamer727 well you gotta understand that bikes aren’t always in competition with each other it’s just the way it is for example a ktm 525 I thought would be a beast but it’s no where near as fast as any 450 not that I’ve ridden either bikes

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      @declan huh? A Ktm 530 is most definitely faster than a Ktm 450. More torque and more power and basically the same weight.

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      • CalumC Calum

        @irongamer727 No, I never said the CRM was 30 lol

        Pretty sure no one did.

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        @calum The fact you did not correct me made me wonder 😉

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        • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

          @calum The fact you did not correct me made me wonder 😉

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          @irongamer727 I won't lie, I thought you were Trolling lmao

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            @irongamer727 I won't lie, I thought you were Trolling lmao

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            #67

            @calum what’s preventing my am6 engine from reaching say cr80 performance say I put a cr80 head on there magicaly get the crank to fit with the carb etc would it essentially be nearly as fast as one like what’s the limiting factors apart from fitment of Honda parts

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            • declanD declan

              @calum what’s preventing my am6 engine from reaching say cr80 performance say I put a cr80 head on there magicaly get the crank to fit with the carb etc would it essentially be nearly as fast as one like what’s the limiting factors apart from fitment of Honda parts

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              @declan Cylinder wall thickness I expect. Only so much porting you can do.

              You could get the DT to be like a YZ. Just needs blue printing.

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                @declan Cylinder wall thickness I expect. Only so much porting you can do.

                You could get the DT to be like a YZ. Just needs blue printing.

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                @calum so I can get performance cranks which increase compression there’s a few so your saying that with a nice crank re bore and specialist porting I could get pretty impressive figures? I’m obviously and a Bafoon when it comes to this stuff

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                • declanD declan

                  @calum so I can get performance cranks which increase compression there’s a few so your saying that with a nice crank re bore and specialist porting I could get pretty impressive figures? I’m obviously and a Bafoon when it comes to this stuff

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                  @declan the am6 has so much tuning potential. You could go for the Parmakit 110cc or for more performance the Stage 6 90cc or something like that. But spending those kind of money on a moped engine isn't worth it. You're dt is still going to run better.

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                  • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                    @declan the am6 has so much tuning potential. You could go for the Parmakit 110cc or for more performance the Stage 6 90cc or something like that. But spending those kind of money on a moped engine isn't worth it. You're dt is still going to run better.

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                    wrote on last edited by declan
                    #71

                    @irongamer727 yeah those kits are mad expensive In some cases I can get Airsal kits for around 200 Ish rated for around 14hp maybe if I paired that up with a nice crank it would be nice but it adds up I guess

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                    • CalumC Calum

                      @declan Cylinder wall thickness I expect. Only so much porting you can do.

                      You could get the DT to be like a YZ. Just needs blue printing.

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                      @calum listen to this. https://youtu.be/IuAemxWYHLw It is sounding sooooo good. Especially on idle. Love that 2 stroke sound. But, my Dt never sounds like that. With arrow exhaust. Do you need like a fmf shorty to acquire that type of sound?

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                      • declanD declan

                        @calum so I can get performance cranks which increase compression there’s a few so your saying that with a nice crank re bore and specialist porting I could get pretty impressive figures? I’m obviously and a Bafoon when it comes to this stuff

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                        Calum
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                        #73

                        @declan I'm saying with lots of cash you could achieve anything. But it's pointless at this point as you may as well have bought a better engine.

                        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                        • CalumC Calum

                          @declan I'm saying with lots of cash you could achieve anything. But it's pointless at this point as you may as well have bought a better engine.

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                          @calum like a dt engine 😁

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                          • CalumC Calum

                            @declan I'm saying with lots of cash you could achieve anything. But it's pointless at this point as you may as well have bought a better engine.

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                            @declan Like a Rotax engine. Personally.

                            I think they're really versatile. Loads of tuning bikes, were used competitively yet have all the features to make them tame for the road. Can be tuned very well, and take lots of power.

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                            • CalumC Calum

                              @declan Like a Rotax engine. Personally.

                              I think they're really versatile. Loads of tuning bikes, were used competitively yet have all the features to make them tame for the road. Can be tuned very well, and take lots of power.

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                              @calum Take or Make lots of power ???

                              SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                              • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                                @calum listen to this. https://youtu.be/IuAemxWYHLw It is sounding sooooo good. Especially on idle. Love that 2 stroke sound. But, my Dt never sounds like that. With arrow exhaust. Do you need like a fmf shorty to acquire that type of sound?

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                                @irongamer727 That sound is obviously deeper being a 170, but it sounds similar to my Romeu Hendriques system? but ofcourse its alot quieter on my bike haha, I had an old style circular Dep silencer a while ago on my DT and it was very loud and sounded "poppy" like that 170, im pretty sure it had no or very little packing in it haha.
                                This is a clip of my bike, sounds better in real life mind
                                https://youtu.be/d51-dlxQV8g

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                                • NINJAN NINJA

                                  @calum Take or Make lots of power ???

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                                  @ninja Take, they TAKE lots of stick. They blow up, sure they are prone to failure. But that's cause people shove loads of power into them lmao!

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                                  • Glynn123G Glynn123

                                    @irongamer727 That sound is obviously deeper being a 170, but it sounds similar to my Romeu Hendriques system? but ofcourse its alot quieter on my bike haha, I had an old style circular Dep silencer a while ago on my DT and it was very loud and sounded "poppy" like that 170, im pretty sure it had no or very little packing in it haha.
                                    This is a clip of my bike, sounds better in real life mind
                                    https://youtu.be/d51-dlxQV8g

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                                    @glynn123 nice! Guess you have to remove the stuffing completely to make it sound like the 170 video.

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                                    • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                                      @glynn123 nice! Guess you have to remove the stuffing completely to make it sound like the 170 video.

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                                      @irongamer727 No don't do that. That would sound sh!t

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                                        @Irongamer727 No exhaust stuffing is actually counter productive,

                                        but, Induction plays an important role in the exhaust note.

                                        alt text

                                        Mine sounds really good.

                                        Keep it real

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                                        • DartyD Darty

                                          @Irongamer727 No exhaust stuffing is actually counter productive,

                                          but, Induction plays an important role in the exhaust note.

                                          alt text

                                          Mine sounds really good.

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                                          @darty snorkel is doing a great job there bud 😂😂

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