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Dt170 vs ktm exc 125

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  • CalumC Calum

    @declan Cylinder wall thickness I expect. Only so much porting you can do.

    You could get the DT to be like a YZ. Just needs blue printing.

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    Irongamer727
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    @calum listen to this. https://youtu.be/IuAemxWYHLw It is sounding sooooo good. Especially on idle. Love that 2 stroke sound. But, my Dt never sounds like that. With arrow exhaust. Do you need like a fmf shorty to acquire that type of sound?

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    • declanD declan

      @calum so I can get performance cranks which increase compression there’s a few so your saying that with a nice crank re bore and specialist porting I could get pretty impressive figures? I’m obviously and a Bafoon when it comes to this stuff

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      Calum
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      @declan I'm saying with lots of cash you could achieve anything. But it's pointless at this point as you may as well have bought a better engine.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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        @declan I'm saying with lots of cash you could achieve anything. But it's pointless at this point as you may as well have bought a better engine.

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        declan
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        @calum like a dt engine 😁

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        • CalumC Calum

          @declan I'm saying with lots of cash you could achieve anything. But it's pointless at this point as you may as well have bought a better engine.

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          Calum
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          @declan Like a Rotax engine. Personally.

          I think they're really versatile. Loads of tuning bikes, were used competitively yet have all the features to make them tame for the road. Can be tuned very well, and take lots of power.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • CalumC Calum

            @declan Like a Rotax engine. Personally.

            I think they're really versatile. Loads of tuning bikes, were used competitively yet have all the features to make them tame for the road. Can be tuned very well, and take lots of power.

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            @calum Take or Make lots of power ???

            SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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            • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

              @calum listen to this. https://youtu.be/IuAemxWYHLw It is sounding sooooo good. Especially on idle. Love that 2 stroke sound. But, my Dt never sounds like that. With arrow exhaust. Do you need like a fmf shorty to acquire that type of sound?

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              @irongamer727 That sound is obviously deeper being a 170, but it sounds similar to my Romeu Hendriques system? but ofcourse its alot quieter on my bike haha, I had an old style circular Dep silencer a while ago on my DT and it was very loud and sounded "poppy" like that 170, im pretty sure it had no or very little packing in it haha.
              This is a clip of my bike, sounds better in real life mind
              https://youtu.be/d51-dlxQV8g

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              • NINJAN NINJA

                @calum Take or Make lots of power ???

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                Calum
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                @ninja Take, they TAKE lots of stick. They blow up, sure they are prone to failure. But that's cause people shove loads of power into them lmao!

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                • Glynn123G Glynn123

                  @irongamer727 That sound is obviously deeper being a 170, but it sounds similar to my Romeu Hendriques system? but ofcourse its alot quieter on my bike haha, I had an old style circular Dep silencer a while ago on my DT and it was very loud and sounded "poppy" like that 170, im pretty sure it had no or very little packing in it haha.
                  This is a clip of my bike, sounds better in real life mind
                  https://youtu.be/d51-dlxQV8g

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                  @glynn123 nice! Guess you have to remove the stuffing completely to make it sound like the 170 video.

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                  • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                    @glynn123 nice! Guess you have to remove the stuffing completely to make it sound like the 170 video.

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                    @irongamer727 No don't do that. That would sound sh!t

                    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      @Irongamer727 No exhaust stuffing is actually counter productive,

                      but, Induction plays an important role in the exhaust note.

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                      Mine sounds really good.

                      Keep it real

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                      • DartyD Darty

                        @Irongamer727 No exhaust stuffing is actually counter productive,

                        but, Induction plays an important role in the exhaust note.

                        alt text

                        Mine sounds really good.

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                        declan
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                        @darty snorkel is doing a great job there bud πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                        • declanD declan

                          @darty snorkel is doing a great job there bud πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                          NINJA
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                          #83

                          @declan It's open plan dude, that's all the rage in interior design!!! πŸ˜†

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                          • DartyD Darty

                            @Irongamer727 No exhaust stuffing is actually counter productive,

                            but, Induction plays an important role in the exhaust note.

                            alt text

                            Mine sounds really good.

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                            @darty still my Arrow exhaust sounds pretty much the same as stock exhaust.

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                            • declanD declan

                              @darty snorkel is doing a great job there bud πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                              @declan The snorkel still helps to stabilise air flow, even with a Lanza 230 snorkel, You just cant get enough air through it!

                              Airbox is quite restrictive when your tuning these,

                              Keep it real

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                                NINJA
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                                I am always confused as to how any air is sucked in with the air box and snorkel system? To me is looks to be pointing in the wrong direction and I always feel that the rider and seat will reduce airflow around that area too. But I guess it is not too restrictive as all bikes perform extremely well with the air box and snorkel set-up. Has anyone tried small air scoops on the side of the air box to draw air into the box at all ???

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                                • NINJAN NINJA

                                  I am always confused as to how any air is sucked in with the air box and snorkel system? To me is looks to be pointing in the wrong direction and I always feel that the rider and seat will reduce airflow around that area too. But I guess it is not too restrictive as all bikes perform extremely well with the air box and snorkel set-up. Has anyone tried small air scoops on the side of the air box to draw air into the box at all ???

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                                  Calum
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                                  @ninja Ahem, RAM AIR.

                                  Also Aprilia RS125's do this. They take a scoop from the nose cone, and force it into the air box lol.

                                  But you can get nasty negative air pressure coefficients that cause adverse effects.

                                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                    I removed my airbox snorkel and upjetted carb, very good sound and possibly abit more power? Not noticeable mind but does sound brilliant.

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                                    • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                                      @scrimsmustang don't think it will win over a wr200 but you're right, they are powerful. I Wonder how Honda manages to squeeze out 30 bhp and how Yamaha only ~20 bhp. Seems odd.

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                                      @irongamer727 said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:

                                      @scrimsmustang don't think it will win over a wr200 but you're right, they are powerful. I Wonder how Honda manages to squeeze out 30 bhp and how Yamaha only ~20 bhp. Seems odd.

                                      CRM will piss over the WR200 ive had a fair few 200,s and the Honda would just laugh at the 200, 125 or not.

                                      Poo DT200WR compared to CRM
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                                      Poo WR200R compared to CRM
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                                      • Glynn123G Glynn123

                                        I removed my airbox snorkel and upjetted carb, very good sound and possibly abit more power? Not noticeable mind but does sound brilliant.

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                                        @glynn123 said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:

                                        I removed my airbox snorkel and upjetted carb, very good sound and possibly abit more power? Not noticeable mind but does sound brilliant.

                                        Its the mixture screw and pilot jet you need to tweek when you remove the snorkel on a DTR mostly as they bog down at low rpm due to the air rich mixture, dial it out and you get a lot better low down acceleration.

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                                        • D DTR+NSR

                                          I doubt the crm has a genuine 30bhp. I've got a nsr125 with basically the same engine as the crm. Doesn't 'feel' that much faster than my dtr, wether that's just down to the gearing, as the nsr has alot longer legs.

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                                          @dtr-nsr said in Dt170 vs ktm exc 125:

                                          I doubt the crm has a genuine 30bhp. I've got a nsr125 with basically the same engine as the crm. Doesn't 'feel' that much faster than my dtr, wether that's just down to the gearing, as the nsr has alot longer legs.

                                          Is the NSR derestricted properly ? Should pull atleast 110 derestricted

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