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The Helios Project (Aprilia RS 125 Rotax 122 Biaggi Race Replica)

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  • CalumC Calum

    @irongamer727 Yeah sure, I expect it to be...disappointing lol. If I bought a rag around RS and bolted on a cylinder kit then yeah, fair enough. But having been building it for nearly 3 years, the expectations are too grand.

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    @calum nah I expect that it will make it all the sweeter to ride

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      Another delivery of goodies arrived!

      I think this is shamefully about all I can afford this month 😞

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      Brand new set of mirrors

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      Now, I skimped out here. Samco hoses are around £100, but I got these from China for like £35

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      To be honest with you, they're banging for the money. Maybe I'll get the samco ones further down the line, although I doubt it.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      • CalumC Calum

        Another delivery of goodies arrived!

        I think this is shamefully about all I can afford this month 😞

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        Brand new set of mirrors

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        Now, I skimped out here. Samco hoses are around £100, but I got these from China for like £35

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        To be honest with you, they're banging for the money. Maybe I'll get the samco ones further down the line, although I doubt it.

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        #133

        @calum Give your wallet a rest this month dude, it's been busy enough lately. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

        And where did you get the reeds from, was it a good deal???

        SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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        • NINJAN NINJA

          @calum Give your wallet a rest this month dude, it's been busy enough lately. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

          And where did you get the reeds from, was it a good deal???

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          Calum
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          #134

          @ninja That all totals to about £300.

          I buy all my stuff from PJME, since they're reputable.

          The V Force reeds were £160.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • NINJAN NINJA

            @calum Give your wallet a rest this month dude, it's been busy enough lately. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

            And where did you get the reeds from, was it a good deal???

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            @ninja bet he goes through wallets like anything with all the friction of taking money out lol

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            • declanD declan

              @ninja bet he goes through wallets like anything with all the friction of taking money out lol

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              @declan Right, so if you just want to tell the missus that, that would be great...

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              • CalumC Calum

                @declan Right, so if you just want to tell the missus that, that would be great...

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                @calum lol did you get those hoses direct from China or just made in China either way they’re nice

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                • declanD declan

                  @calum lol did you get those hoses direct from China or just made in China either way they’re nice

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                  @declan Direct from China, like alibaba style.

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                  Engine built, I will clean the carb tomorrow to make it spanking.

                  Titanium bolts mount the intake to the engine. Along with my powdercoated skull cap, which should contrast nicely with my NGK racing coil and HT Lead, along with the red engine mount.

                  Just awaiting on some carbon from America, my on going Hydraulic clutch conversion, then this engine is ready to rock and roll.

                  And for those interested in the hydraulic clutch conversion, it would appear, after much discussions with far more qualified engineers, that the solution the other chap derrived is not adequate.

                  I will explain in a separate thread, but basically it's gone from being very easy, to needing a bit more thought...but more on that when it's finished.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  • CalumC Calum

                    @declan Direct from China, like alibaba style.

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                    Engine built, I will clean the carb tomorrow to make it spanking.

                    Titanium bolts mount the intake to the engine. Along with my powdercoated skull cap, which should contrast nicely with my NGK racing coil and HT Lead, along with the red engine mount.

                    Just awaiting on some carbon from America, my on going Hydraulic clutch conversion, then this engine is ready to rock and roll.

                    And for those interested in the hydraulic clutch conversion, it would appear, after much discussions with far more qualified engineers, that the solution the other chap derrived is not adequate.

                    I will explain in a separate thread, but basically it's gone from being very easy, to needing a bit more thought...but more on that when it's finished.

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                    @calum A multi coloured engine - unusually sweet! VHSB 34mm carb is it? And did your carb come with that top cap or did you source it from somewhere???

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                    • NINJAN NINJA

                      @calum A multi coloured engine - unusually sweet! VHSB 34mm carb is it? And did your carb come with that top cap or did you source it from somewhere???

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                      @NINJA It's the racing version of the VHSB carb.

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                      It's like an extra £100.

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                      • CalumC Calum

                        @NINJA It's the racing version of the VHSB carb.

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                        It's like an extra £100.

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                        @calum COOL I bought a job lot of parts for my MX and there was a 34mm Dellorto in there. It's a VHSB model but needs a good clean and a new top cap, as the plastic one's damaged. Those alloy caps are cool looking but cost £55 new. I think it's the flat sided version, but will need to dig it out and check.

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                        • NINJAN NINJA

                          @calum COOL I bought a job lot of parts for my MX and there was a 34mm Dellorto in there. It's a VHSB model but needs a good clean and a new top cap, as the plastic one's damaged. Those alloy caps are cool looking but cost £55 new. I think it's the flat sided version, but will need to dig it out and check.

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                          @ninja Yeah the VHSB is flat slide. This has some other revisions to the stock VHSB.

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                            @ninja Yeah the VHSB is flat slide. This has some other revisions to the stock VHSB.

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                            @calum Yeah I was checking out the differences on here;

                            https://www.dellorto.co.uk/product-category/complete-carburettors-dellorto-motorcycle-carburettors-parts/

                            SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                              Jens Eskildsen
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                              Cant wait to hear it sing :smiling_face:

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                                Cant wait to hear it sing :smiling_face:

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                                @jens-eskildsen You and me both, but we're a fair bit from that just yet.

                                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                  #146

                                  I must say, I'm pretty disappointed with the casting flaws on this fairly premium carburettor.

                                  Having properly examined this carb today, I've cleaned it up and noticed pretty bad flaws in the inlet tract.

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                                  I didn't take any photos, but see the flaws on the outside, imagine those all on the intake.

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                                  I read that polishing the inlet doesn't do anything (Graham Bell Two Stroke Performance Tuning), but he goes on to say, it definitely doesn't hurt.

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                                  I lack the motivation, skill or time to do this job properly.

                                  But I did remove the flaws, which I'm pleased about. Gave the carb a decent clean and it's ready to join my engine.

                                  @NINJA What's the casting like on your VHSB?

                                  On my DT I run a VHSA, which was sold to me as "Blue Printed" So I quickly sold the one I already had and like a child bought that one. But to be fair, having seen the condition of this one, maybe the one I got on my DT was reworked.

                                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                  • CalumC Calum

                                    I must say, I'm pretty disappointed with the casting flaws on this fairly premium carburettor.

                                    Having properly examined this carb today, I've cleaned it up and noticed pretty bad flaws in the inlet tract.

                                    alt text

                                    I didn't take any photos, but see the flaws on the outside, imagine those all on the intake.

                                    alt text

                                    I read that polishing the inlet doesn't do anything (Graham Bell Two Stroke Performance Tuning), but he goes on to say, it definitely doesn't hurt.

                                    alt text

                                    I lack the motivation, skill or time to do this job properly.

                                    But I did remove the flaws, which I'm pleased about. Gave the carb a decent clean and it's ready to join my engine.

                                    @NINJA What's the casting like on your VHSB?

                                    On my DT I run a VHSA, which was sold to me as "Blue Printed" So I quickly sold the one I already had and like a child bought that one. But to be fair, having seen the condition of this one, maybe the one I got on my DT was reworked.

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                                    @calum I'll dig mine out and post some pics for ya, have to be on Sunday tho, as I'm out all day tomorrow.

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                                    • NINJAN NINJA

                                      @calum I'll dig mine out and post some pics for ya, have to be on Sunday tho, as I'm out all day tomorrow.

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                                      @ninja Let down!

                                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                      • CalumC Calum

                                        @ninja Let down!

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                                        @calum you are right though at first I was like wtf is this guy on about them I realised the price of the unit and I noticed the bad bits for the price I’d expect a way better finish on the metal are you sure it’s not a Knock off don’t mean to be a dick but it happens but I’m guessing you brought from pjs? I just realised it was not brand new you did a good job at cleaning lol.

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                                        • declanD declan

                                          @calum you are right though at first I was like wtf is this guy on about them I realised the price of the unit and I noticed the bad bits for the price I’d expect a way better finish on the metal are you sure it’s not a Knock off don’t mean to be a dick but it happens but I’m guessing you brought from pjs? I just realised it was not brand new you did a good job at cleaning lol.

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                                          @declan Yeah, it's stamped in the side as a VHSBLD which is what I wanted.

                                          The thought crossed my mind.

                                          To be honest with you, I can tell the carb is legit, I'm just surprised how bad the casting is.

                                          This is the bike it came off.

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                                          As you can tell, it looks to have been tracked.

                                          More importantly though, that body kit is on eBay.

                                          It's a one of a kind, complete Carbon Fibre fairing kit.

                                          You can't buy those, that's been specially made.

                                          If you got the money for that, you got the money for legitimate carbs.

                                          So no, I don't think it's a fake.

                                          Now, that said, I don't actually like that body kit. But still impressive.

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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