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TDR 125 2001

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  • CalumC Offline
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    Calum
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    Coolant expansion bottle is a must. If you are finding that the bottle is filling up and overflowing then sorry to be the one to tell you this but that's the symptoms of a head gasket failure. And if you used that one supplied to you in that cheap gasket set then that will be why. Athena or Genuine are the only gaskets that cna be usrd on these cylinder heads.

    Engine was lookong good apart from that. I always skim the head and barrels on a rebuild.

    Those 4FU heads have a combustion ring that adversely affects performance. A 3MB would see noticeable gains on that.

    Hey you have done a good job breathing life into it. Its a good project don't be ashamed to move on.

    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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    • MightymanM Offline
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      So it's a coolant expansion bottle... I can't quite work out it's purpose... On mx bikes the coolant will only drip out of the overflow if you put too much in. I'm sure it doesn't expand? Don't worry Callum I remember you mentioning it to me more than once. I used the Athena one and haven't had any coolant overflow so can't see how the bottle is used. Yeah I would like to find a new project but ill need to do a little bit more to this at least so it can pass an MOT.

      TDR 125 - 2001

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      • MightymanM Mightyman

        So it's a coolant expansion bottle... I can't quite work out it's purpose... On mx bikes the coolant will only drip out of the overflow if you put too much in. I'm sure it doesn't expand? Don't worry Callum I remember you mentioning it to me more than once. I used the Athena one and haven't had any coolant overflow so can't see how the bottle is used. Yeah I would like to find a new project but ill need to do a little bit more to this at least so it can pass an MOT.

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        Calum
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        @MIGHTYMAN Yes the water expands as it warms up. It moves from the radiator to the overflow. It should not spill out. Not even drip. Shouldn't lose a drop.

        I have had this happen to me on my motors, both car and bikes. It's either the thermostat not opening. Causing the water to just overheat. Or the head gasket is blowing, causing undue pressure inside the engine.

        Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          Mightyman
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          I'm not losing a drop and never have in the past. I'm just saying I thought it was just an overflow. So, if the coolant expands and falls into the coolant expansion bottle, how does it end up back in the radiator loop as there is only one pipe going to it?!

          TDR 125 - 2001

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          • CalumC Offline
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            Calum
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            Oh sorry. As it cools and contracts it creates a vacuum which pulls the water back out the bottle and back into the radiator.

            Sorry I didn't understand your question at first.

            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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              Okay now that makes sense. But why don't mx bikes have them? I just filled my TDR radiator loop up with the same Putoline stuff I used to chuck into my KTM and it doesn't seem to have expanded so far. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being a bit thick but I like to know all the info before I can fully understand something.

              TDR 125 - 2001

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                Darty
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                I took the the coolant tank off, I just run a short pipe off the overflow into a Redbull can now,

                Makes no difference, never lose much fluid even after it get's very warm.

                Keep it real

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                • DartyD Darty

                  I took the the coolant tank off, I just run a short pipe off the overflow into a Redbull can now,

                  Makes no difference, never lose much fluid even after it get's very warm.

                  CalumC Offline
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                  Calum
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @Darty Yes that theory Mightmany. To put it into practice I am not convinced either. It is what it is. Darty has the right idea.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  • MightymanM Offline
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                    Mightyman
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                    #11

                    Got a pretty good video of it nearly fully back together and running nicely earlier.

                    https://youtu.be/u2hdpVhdFNk

                    TDR 125 - 2001

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                      I was going to post in the wanted section but I highly doubt anyone will have what I'm after. So I'de like to know if anyone has any info on whether or not there is any other front brake callipers that are the same as the one on this bike? My one is totally seized so had to remove it ages ago. I think it'll be costly to rebuild it so might as well buy a second hand one.

                      TDR 125 - 2001

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                        mad73
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                        looking at the pic it looks the same as a fzr600 if its 100mm centres if its 90mm could be the same as a fzr400 ,, would a tzr 125 not be the same ?

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                          Mightyman
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                          #14

                          I might dismantle it tomorrow so I'll jot down some measurements. Found out I'm going to have to do something about my rear brake on my WR so I might as well rebuild them both I'm thinking. Took the WR one apart today and it wasn't too difficult really. £15 for the rebuild kit so I'll see how it goes.

                          TDR 125 - 2001

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                            Mightyman
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                            Small update,

                            A used stock TDR 125 exhaust popped up on eBay the other day so I grabbed it for £60 delivered. I quite like the original look of the bike, even if the performance won't quite be all there. I think it's a good selling point. If I do decide to keep the bike I might pay out for an aftermarket one though. Not bad condition I thought, should clean up nicely.

                            http://i.imgur.com/GLFjTxl.jpg

                            http://i.imgur.com/w9RbwbY.jpg

                            TDR 125 - 2001

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                              mad73
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                              found this on fleebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-TDR-125-1997-front-brake-calliper-master-cylinder-mirror-/231502918329?hash=item35e6a632b9:g:l6cAAOSwPYZVAGwi
                              its nothing like a fzr calliper

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                              • mad73M mad73

                                found this on fleebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-TDR-125-1997-front-brake-calliper-master-cylinder-mirror-/231502918329?hash=item35e6a632b9:g:l6cAAOSwPYZVAGwi
                                its nothing like a fzr calliper

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                                Mightyman
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                                #17

                                @mad73 Yeah I have seen that but I was hoping to pay a bit less as all.

                                TDR 125 - 2001

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                                  Mightyman
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                                  #18

                                  Plastics definitely need some work, but overall they are in a lot better condition than I remember. Left to do is fit new indicators, fit new exhaust and rebuild front calliper. Then I'm pretty sure it'll be okay to get through an MOT!

                                  Totted up all the receipts I have for the bike and it came to just over £1200 including original cost of the bike... Wasn't surprised, but if I had of known it was going to need that much spending on it, I would have considered just selling it for parts tbh!

                                  http://i.imgur.com/Gfa8tuU.jpg

                                  Another video of it running with the full stock exhaust system on it now.

                                  https://youtu.be/Qpt1-qNR5no

                                  TDR 125 - 2001

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                                    Looks sweet man, good for that money.

                                    Keep it real

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                                      Calum
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                                      It's looking grand pal. Well worth the time and money. 1200 is cheap for what it is. You should get your money back for sure. And the experience is priceless

                                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                        Mightyman
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                                        #21

                                        Has been years since it was ridden on the road but I took it on it's first outing today! Didn't go too well as I completely forgot that it doesn't have a low fuel light, and left it on reserve!
                                        https://youtu.be/JG8DehEB0Oc

                                        TDR 125 - 2001

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                                        • MightymanM Mightyman

                                          Has been years since it was ridden on the road but I took it on it's first outing today! Didn't go too well as I completely forgot that it doesn't have a low fuel light, and left it on reserve!
                                          https://youtu.be/JG8DehEB0Oc

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                                          NINJA
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                                          @MIGHTYMAN Long walk pushing it I guess? LOL

                                          But looks like she rode well before the lil blooper!!! ;O)

                                          SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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