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Missing some wires for the cdi

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    dan28
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    The engine an loom are 1989 the cdi is I believe 3nc the writing has worn off
    To make it easier I ll list all the wires that the cdi has in case I got the code wrong

    Right side of cdi
    Male 2 pin plug
    white/ red . Wire
    Black . Wire
    Female 2 pin plug
    Green/ white Wire
    Black an red wire
    These plugs go to stator

    Left side of cdi
    2 pin plug
    Dark blue wire
    Light blue wire
    This is for neutral an oil light

    Twin Black wire from cdi goes to earth

    Black / white from cdi goes to black / white in loom not sure what it's for ?

    Orange wire from cdi goes to coil ?

    Blue / yellow from cdi should go to Black/ yellow I can't find it in the loom ?

    Black / yellow from cdi should go to.red an white possibly power valve?

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      The engine an loom are 1989 the cdi is I believe 3nc the writing has worn off
      To make it easier I ll list all the wires that the cdi has in case I got the code wrong

      Right side of cdi
      Male 2 pin plug
      white/ red . Wire
      Black . Wire
      Female 2 pin plug
      Green/ white Wire
      Black an red wire
      These plugs go to stator

      Left side of cdi
      2 pin plug
      Dark blue wire
      Light blue wire
      This is for neutral an oil light

      Twin Black wire from cdi goes to earth

      Black / white from cdi goes to black / white in loom not sure what it's for ?

      Orange wire from cdi goes to coil ?

      Blue / yellow from cdi should go to Black/ yellow I can't find it in the loom ?

      Black / yellow from cdi should go to.red an white possibly power valve?

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      SpookDog
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      @dan28

      Does your bike run? If so what’s the problem?
      Do you have a power valve servo fitted? The early 1988~1996 bikes have a servo with 3 wires (not 5) a single black with white (or yellow!) stripe wire and a twin connector with a black wire and a brown wire...

      I have some spare wires in a box, how many do you need? 😜

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        @dan28

        Does your bike run? If so what’s the problem?
        Do you have a power valve servo fitted? The early 1988~1996 bikes have a servo with 3 wires (not 5) a single black with white (or yellow!) stripe wire and a twin connector with a black wire and a brown wire...

        I have some spare wires in a box, how many do you need? 😜

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        @SpookDog said in Missing some wires for the cdi:

        @dan28

        Does your bike run? If so what’s the problem?
        Do you have a power valve servo fitted? The early 1988~1996 bikes have a servo with 3 wires (not 5) a single black with white (or yellow!) stripe wire and a twin connector with a black wire and a brown wire...

        I have some spare wires in a box, how many do you need? 😜
        The dtr engine is in a different bike
        I ve not tried to start it yet
        The loom had to be chopped an lengthend
        I ve wrote down that cdi black an yellow goes to red an white
        An that blue an yellow from.cdi goes to black an yellow in the loom but that was ages ago an now I can't find either wire in the loom side

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          The engine an loom are 1989 the cdi is I believe 3nc the writing has worn off
          To make it easier I ll list all the wires that the cdi has in case I got the code wrong

          Right side of cdi
          Male 2 pin plug
          white/ red . Wire
          Black . Wire
          Female 2 pin plug
          Green/ white Wire
          Black an red wire
          These plugs go to stator

          Left side of cdi
          2 pin plug
          Dark blue wire
          Light blue wire
          This is for neutral an oil light

          Twin Black wire from cdi goes to earth

          Black / white from cdi goes to black / white in loom not sure what it's for ?

          Orange wire from cdi goes to coil ?

          Blue / yellow from cdi should go to Black/ yellow I can't find it in the loom ?

          Black / yellow from cdi should go to.red an white possibly power valve?

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          @dan28 said in Missing some wires for the cdi:

          The engine an loom are 1989 the cdi is I believe 3nc the writing has worn off
          To make it easier I ll list all the wires that the cdi has in case I got the code wrong

          Right side of cdi
          Male 2 pin plug
          white/ red . Wire
          Black . Wire
          Female 2 pin plug
          Green/ white Wire
          Black an red wire
          These plugs go to stator
          Correct

          Left side of cdi
          2 pin plug
          Dark blue wire
          Light blue wire
          This is for neutral an oil light
          Correct

          Twin Black wire from cdi goes to earth
          Correct

          Black / white from cdi goes to black / white in loom not sure what it's for ?
          This is for the kill button on the handlebars

          Orange wire from cdi goes to coil ?
          Correct

          Blue / yellow from cdi should go to Black/ yellow I can't find it in the loom ?
          Blue/yellow from CDI should go to blue/yellow on the loom, a single bullet connector. This goes to the sidestand switch

          Black / yellow from cdi should go to.red an white possibly power valve?
          Black/yellow from CDI is the YPVS signal wire, goes to black/yellow on the 3-wire YPVS servo. The only red/white wire on the 3NC loom is the short section of the battery +ve lead containing the fuse holder

          Did I just respond to this on one of the DTR Facebook pages? I posted up a pic of the 3NC loom, will try and upload it onto here

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            The engine an loom are 1989 the cdi is I believe 3nc the writing has worn off
            To make it easier I ll list all the wires that the cdi has in case I got the code wrong

            Right side of cdi
            Male 2 pin plug
            white/ red . Wire
            Black . Wire
            Female 2 pin plug
            Green/ white Wire
            Black an red wire
            These plugs go to stator

            Left side of cdi
            2 pin plug
            Dark blue wire
            Light blue wire
            This is for neutral an oil light

            Twin Black wire from cdi goes to earth

            Black / white from cdi goes to black / white in loom not sure what it's for ?

            Orange wire from cdi goes to coil ?

            Blue / yellow from cdi should go to Black/ yellow I can't find it in the loom ?

            Black / yellow from cdi should go to.red an white possibly power valve?

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            HOTSHOT III
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            @dan28 3NC wiring diagram below

            alt text

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            • HOTSHOT IIIH HOTSHOT III

              @dan28 3NC wiring diagram below

              alt text

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              Please stop posting full on quote mode peeps! It’s making me dizzy trying to read posts!!...

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              • HOTSHOT IIIH HOTSHOT III

                @dan28 3NC wiring diagram below

                alt text

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                @HOTSHOT-III You can embed images bud:
                alt text

                Just got to use the right link: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52172141696_84e3b69382_b.jpg

                Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                  dan28
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                  thanks hot shot
                  yes that was me on fb
                  so blue an yellow is for sidestand
                  i have a black with yellow stripe single bullet connector thats labelled as goes to red an white i think this is meant to go to the servo
                  i m not sure what code my cdi is dont think its 3nc

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                    thanks hot shot
                    yes that was me on fb
                    so blue an yellow is for sidestand
                    i have a black with yellow stripe single bullet connector thats labelled as goes to red an white i think this is meant to go to the servo
                    i m not sure what code my cdi is dont think its 3nc

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                    SpookDog
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                    @dan28

                    Black with yellow stripe goes to 3wire servo. Along with back wire & brown wire double block connector from the loom...

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                      thanks hot shot
                      yes that was me on fb
                      so blue an yellow is for sidestand
                      i have a black with yellow stripe single bullet connector thats labelled as goes to red an white i think this is meant to go to the servo
                      i m not sure what code my cdi is dont think its 3nc

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                      @dan28 Yes that's correct, brown is main feed from the ignition switch on Yamahas and obviously black is earth. Interestingly if you apply battery voltage to the black and brown wires of a serviceable 3-wire servo it will perform its cleaning cycle even when removed from the bike as the control circuit is inside the servo itself and the black/yellow signal wire from the CDI just tells the servo the engine speed.

                      Only other CDI unit I can think of could be a 3BN from the very first 1988 DTR; I think the wiring is very similar to a 3NC but you'd probably have a 26mm round slide carb if that's the case.

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                        @HOTSHOT-III You can embed images bud:
                        alt text

                        Just got to use the right link: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52172141696_84e3b69382_b.jpg

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                        @Calum Thank you! How do you obtain a staticflickr link from the image please? Had a nose around last night and couldn't find it, maybe because I'm using the free version of Flickr?

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                        • HOTSHOT IIIH HOTSHOT III

                          @Calum Thank you! How do you obtain a staticflickr link from the image please? Had a nose around last night and couldn't find it, maybe because I'm using the free version of Flickr?

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                          Calum
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                          @HOTSHOT-III Uhh, you edited your post with the URL in it.

                          I don't use flicr personally, but Right Click + Copy Image Location ought to give you the URL.

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                            @HOTSHOT-III Uhh, you edited your post with the URL in it.

                            I don't use flicr personally, but Right Click + Copy Image Location ought to give you the URL.

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                            HOTSHOT III
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                            @Calum OK cool, thought I'd still done something wrong as the actual image still didn't appear like in your comment above. Still the OP can access the wiring diagram so all good πŸ‘

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                              @Calum OK cool, thought I'd still done something wrong as the actual image still didn't appear like in your comment above. Still the OP can access the wiring diagram so all good πŸ‘

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                              Calum
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                              @HOTSHOT-III Take the URL and put it in side the () of a []().

                              The syntax is Markdown

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                              • CalumC Calum

                                @HOTSHOT-III You can embed images bud:
                                alt text

                                Just got to use the right link: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52172141696_84e3b69382_b.jpg

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                                @Calum Finally sorted as you can see above!!

                                Turns out on my computer you have to click the download link on a Flickr photo, choose the size you want, THEN copy and paste the URL. Might be because I'm still using the Victorian technology that is Windows 7?

                                Anyway thanks for your patience πŸ‘ πŸ‘Ό

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                                • HOTSHOT IIIH HOTSHOT III

                                  @Calum Finally sorted as you can see above!!

                                  Turns out on my computer you have to click the download link on a Flickr photo, choose the size you want, THEN copy and paste the URL. Might be because I'm still using the Victorian technology that is Windows 7?

                                  Anyway thanks for your patience πŸ‘ πŸ‘Ό

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                                  Calum
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                                  @HOTSHOT-III Yeah, I only use Linux and Firefox.

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