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  • StanKnS Offline
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    StanKn
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    I plan on keeping my TDR for a long time and i'm changing rings at the moment and noticed my bore has some lights scratching and signs of wear. Was thinking of getting the Athena 170cc kit at some point in the future, does anyone know if they are worth the money, not really looking for a big boost in HP but is a bit of Torque would be nice and is the quality as good as original Yamaha
    Thanks

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      Calum
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      Quality is lovely to be fair and when setup properly they go well.

      There is a huge loss of over-rev, but the midrange is brilliant. Dies off around 10,000RPM.

      Couple this with a pipe and a proper ignition system then you're in for a real treat.

      The bore is nikasil plated and the head is independent from the skull cap. So overall it's nice quality.

      I had mine ported by Mick Abbey as well.

      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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        StanKn
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        Sounds excellent, not a huge fan of revving of 10,000 anyways I love the sound of some midrange power, I've currently got a DEP silencer and de-restricted pipe, How would you go about upgrading the Ignition system?

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          I highly recommend the Zeeltronic ignition systems. I own 4 of them. That was the single biggest improvement on my Yamaha IMO.

          Yeah, I've grown to like the Athena I must admit. If you go back 10 years, you'll find posts of me not loving it so much. The reason is, my friends all had Aprilia RS125s and they just run rings around the DTRs. The fact is, I wanted something like a YZ or Aprilia in terms of performance.

          I've now grown to realise that the DTR was never going to be on par with those bikes, no matter how much I spend. So now it's just about appreciating the DTR for what it is. The Athena is more akin to my type of riding, when I'm on my DTR.

          When I'm on my RS, it's all about revving the nuts off of it 😛

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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            StanKn
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            Seriously thanks for all the help, I swear any question asked you've answered. You know everything about DTs, absolute wizard,

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            • StanKnS StanKn

              Seriously thanks for all the help, I swear any question asked you've answered. You know everything about DTs, absolute wizard,

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              Calum
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              @StanKn I'm not sure about that, I've just been around DTRs for a long time. Probably done every modification under the sun and back again. So I know a little more than average about them. True masters are people like @oldman @scrimsmustang @HOTSHOT-III to name a few.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                Yes it worth's the money ported or stock will give you mid range and the ability to cruise at nice speeds around 5K rpm depending the gearing,if you go the tuning way depending the depth of tuning,you can still have mid range like above but scream at about 13K rpm.
                Zeeltronic is excellent as @Calum said.
                You can "play" nice with Yamaha's CDI from other models if you want or some unrestricted.
                @Calum has done extensive mods the other members mentioned from him have their respected history also,I will add @SpookDog and @Louis-DT-WR.

                I need my tools and a pile of junk.....

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                  StanKn
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                  Cheers Guys the help is massively appreciated, My Dads is very experienced with composite work so I plan on making mine a one of kind front fairing, and having the engine about as perfect as it can be, I'm glad a joined this forum seems to have all the answers!!

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                    StanKn
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                    Oh meant to ask this too, do I need to do many changes to the jetting if I get the 170cc kit or do the stock jets work fine?
                    Thanks again

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                      You'll want to adjust the jetting to suit.

                      To get the most out of the Athena you'll want a bigger carburettor. I run the VHSA out of the TZR 4DL Belgarda.

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                      • StanKnS StanKn

                        Oh meant to ask this too, do I need to do many changes to the jetting if I get the 170cc kit or do the stock jets work fine?
                        Thanks again

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                        @StanKn

                        Stock work fine with me.

                        I got a nice improvement in mid and (especially) low rev range torque. I never get tired of cruising along at just over 5K~RPM doing 60mph nice and lazily…

                        I’m sure a bigger carb would be a boon, but myself I hardly ever go over half~3/4 throttle, so it’d be wasted on me 😜
                        I kinda think if you love WOT revving the nuts off of it, it’d be better sticking with the 3MB barrel…

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                          My mate used to ride his Athena everywhere pinned.

                          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bOGAEzTaBgI

                          Was very reliable.

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                            Thanks for all the info sounds absolutely perfect for me, I'll definitely buy!

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