Enduro or Dt125r
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As an interest for riding in the forest and messing around is growing, I start to consider what bike you should buy.
I don't want to spend a lot of money on the bike, so I'm looking for something cheap.
But an old Kawasaki that hasn't been rebuilt in forever and is going to break down all the time isn't really what I am after. It's going to get expensive anyway.Buying and old Dt125 on the other hand seems like a more clever choise. It's not going to break down, parts are available and I know the engines. The only problem is weather or not I can keep up with my friends riding yz250s and ktm250s. And is an old Dtr good at jumping around in the forest? Another good thing about the Dt is that I can drive it wherever I want. Because it's road legal.
Opinions?
@irongamer727 I guess the simple answer is this;
If your friends on bigger CC bikes keep disappearing from you whilst your riding your DTR, then a larger capacity enduro bike is called for. Trial and error really.
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It's about the rider in the woods, seen 85cc bikes keep up with 250s in the past. I used to trail ride a lot on my trials bikes with friends on 250mx and enduros, trials bike max speed was about 45-50mph but would obliterate the MX bikes in tight sections.
The past year I trail rode my standard DTRE and it was happy enough keeping up with most MX bikes in the trails, it's a totally different ball park than road riding, power isn't so necessary and DTs are great for hill climbs. -
This little guy is advertised at £670 and everything works.
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I'm selling my DT125R mate. 2003 with 6500 miles on clock. Well looked after MOT till march 19. £2200 let me know if your interested
@bikemad88 sorry not really anything for me.
I'm from Sweden and I need something cheap.
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@bikemad88 sorry not really anything for me.
I'm from Sweden and I need something cheap.
Something that could take serious abuse. -
@irongamer727 then you describe a dt but they do lack the torque but still capeable bikes
@declan how's the husqvarna doing?
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@declan how's the husqvarna doing?
@irongamer727 DTR is a good choice to be fair.
Again, trail riding is all about the rider, you may have 50 HP, but you can't realistically use that, or even put it down.
A DTR has as much torque as you need for light offroading. I used to use mine to great effect.
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@declan how's the husqvarna doing?
@irongamer727 don’t ask
, nah thanks for asking lol it’s not good I threw a brand new clutch hub in it brought a second had wr 300 clutch kit for the springs and bolts put it all together and it was still the same so I had it apart a few times threw the 300 plates in it and no luck had it out just bit better when the engine is hot but still drags but strangely if I put it up a wall as if I try do a burn out slip the clutch and put load on the clutch it essentially fixes the issue so I’m going to take it out soon and abuse the clutch and see how it reacts and the dealership finally stopped ignoring me and I’m gonna see what we can do money wise as it’s a little ridiculous but I don’t know what to expect -
@irongamer727 DTR is a good choice to be fair.
Again, trail riding is all about the rider, you may have 50 HP, but you can't realistically use that, or even put it down.
A DTR has as much torque as you need for light offroading. I used to use mine to great effect.
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@irongamer727 don’t ask
, nah thanks for asking lol it’s not good I threw a brand new clutch hub in it brought a second had wr 300 clutch kit for the springs and bolts put it all together and it was still the same so I had it apart a few times threw the 300 plates in it and no luck had it out just bit better when the engine is hot but still drags but strangely if I put it up a wall as if I try do a burn out slip the clutch and put load on the clutch it essentially fixes the issue so I’m going to take it out soon and abuse the clutch and see how it reacts and the dealership finally stopped ignoring me and I’m gonna see what we can do money wise as it’s a little ridiculous but I don’t know what to expect@declan you should stick with reliable Dt's
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@declan you should stick with reliable Dt's
@irongamer727 Variety is the spice of life.
I'm not sure I would have bought a Husky mind you.
Not something you really buy on a budget. There is a lot to be said about the DTR, especially when funds are tight. My bike did me well when I was seventeen. It was a reliable, quick little bike, that saw me no real dramas. Even after it got stolen, I was able to throw £100 at it and it lasted a good couple of years. Cracking bikes.
Then when you get to the bigger boys, you need deeper pockets...
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@irongamer727 Variety is the spice of life.
I'm not sure I would have bought a Husky mind you.
Not something you really buy on a budget. There is a lot to be said about the DTR, especially when funds are tight. My bike did me well when I was seventeen. It was a reliable, quick little bike, that saw me no real dramas. Even after it got stolen, I was able to throw £100 at it and it lasted a good couple of years. Cracking bikes.
Then when you get to the bigger boys, you need deeper pockets...
@calum yeah, my other choise is an old, beat up enduro in need of love. And that love I'm afraid wont be cheap.
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@irongamer727 Variety is the spice of life.
I'm not sure I would have bought a Husky mind you.
Not something you really buy on a budget. There is a lot to be said about the DTR, especially when funds are tight. My bike did me well when I was seventeen. It was a reliable, quick little bike, that saw me no real dramas. Even after it got stolen, I was able to throw £100 at it and it lasted a good couple of years. Cracking bikes.
Then when you get to the bigger boys, you need deeper pockets...
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@declan you should stick with reliable Dt's
@irongamer727 low blow
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I'll just make it very clear as an enduro rider for over 15 years. A DT is NOT an enduro bike at all it is a trail bike. 125 YZs and KXs will leave you behind like dust, the DT doesn't have the power, torque or weight to keep up with such bikes.
If you are green laning then yes, a DT is a good start for a novice. But if you are really looking to riding enduro then what you want is an enduro bike that is light. For the record, Enduro bikes are road-legal. YZs and KXs are not road legal, because they are motocross bikes designed for a closed, private circuit. Also, you will have far less reliability problems with a KX or a YZ than you would with a DT.
Don't get me wrong, it isn't impossible to enduro with a DT, but it's too much of a bother when you compare it to enduro bikes. You don't have the power and definetly don't have the torque and the bike itself is 30kg too heavy.
If you keep an eye out on ebay and gumtree, you will find good enduro bikes. Your best chance would probably be Yamaha WRs or GasGas ECs. You will have to pay extra, but you'll be far better equipped for enduro.
Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015
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I'll just make it very clear as an enduro rider for over 15 years. A DT is NOT an enduro bike at all it is a trail bike. 125 YZs and KXs will leave you behind like dust, the DT doesn't have the power, torque or weight to keep up with such bikes.
If you are green laning then yes, a DT is a good start for a novice. But if you are really looking to riding enduro then what you want is an enduro bike that is light. For the record, Enduro bikes are road-legal. YZs and KXs are not road legal, because they are motocross bikes designed for a closed, private circuit. Also, you will have far less reliability problems with a KX or a YZ than you would with a DT.
Don't get me wrong, it isn't impossible to enduro with a DT, but it's too much of a bother when you compare it to enduro bikes. You don't have the power and definetly don't have the torque and the bike itself is 30kg too heavy.
If you keep an eye out on ebay and gumtree, you will find good enduro bikes. Your best chance would probably be Yamaha WRs or GasGas ECs. You will have to pay extra, but you'll be far better equipped for enduro.
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@minia Yeah I agree, I did choose my wording carefully, saying trail riding rather than enduro. As a DTR and a Husky are not comparable.
@calum Definetly not comparable haha, I'm still dreaming for a Husqvarna TE/X125 with a rekluse hydraulic auto clutch, 150cc kit, full exhaust system with an akra. More than 45 ponies on a bike that would weigh less than 90kg. It'd be as nimble as a goat hehe
Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015
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@calum Definetly not comparable haha, I'm still dreaming for a Husqvarna TE/X125 with a rekluse hydraulic auto clutch, 150cc kit, full exhaust system with an akra. More than 45 ponies on a bike that would weigh less than 90kg. It'd be as nimble as a goat hehe
@minia I dunno, I'm just not convinced I would go down the 125 route for those sorts of bikes.
That said, I'm a poo rider so maybe that's got something to do with it.
I like the kick up the bum that you get from a smoker, but it gets tiresome where it makes shed loads of power, but not until the top top RPM. ,and none at the bottom.
I feel a 250 V Twin would be my dream.
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@minia I dunno, I'm just not convinced I would go down the 125 route for those sorts of bikes.
That said, I'm a poo rider so maybe that's got something to do with it.
I like the kick up the bum that you get from a smoker, but it gets tiresome where it makes shed loads of power, but not until the top top RPM. ,and none at the bottom.
I feel a 250 V Twin would be my dream.
@calum 250 V-twin for an enduro? That's a lot of extra weight... Honestly it depends on what sort of terrain you ride but when off-road it is all about the weight, 125s are less tiring thanks to the fact they weigh less. The downside though is you have a lot less torque, makes it harder to get out of difficult situations. But, well, that comes down to experience really haha
Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015
