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Engine braking after full throttle max rpm?

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  • Irongamer727I Offline
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    Irongamer727
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    So let's say you are riding your 4 stroke motorcycle and decides to go full throttle max rpm.

    Would or should you ideally just let off the throttle at let's say 13-14 k rpm and just engine brake to safe speeds?

    Is a 4 stroke designed to withstand that sort of strangulation? I'm personally all to used to riding 2 stroke so I'm really really scared at just letting the throttle off.

    What's what?

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    • MiniaM Offline
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      Minia
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      Doesn't change a thing, of course you can use maximum engine braking. As long as you don't push your engine and stay within the safe limits there is nothing to worry about. There's a slight myth with 2-strokes saying when you are going downhill you need to brake but accelerate as well to keep oil going into the engine. That my friend is bullshit unless you're going downhill for a very long period of time.

      Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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      • CalumC Offline
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        Engine braking in general causes wear to the cylinder walls, bearings and gearbox. That's why newer cars now rev match when you down shift.

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        • CalumC Calum

          Engine braking in general causes wear to the cylinder walls, bearings and gearbox. That's why newer cars now rev match when you down shift.

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          Irongamer727
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          @Calum including 4 strokes?

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          • MiniaM Minia

            Doesn't change a thing, of course you can use maximum engine braking. As long as you don't push your engine and stay within the safe limits there is nothing to worry about. There's a slight myth with 2-strokes saying when you are going downhill you need to brake but accelerate as well to keep oil going into the engine. That my friend is bullshit unless you're going downhill for a very long period of time.

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            Irongamer727
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            @Minia Yeah but my question is whether people just let off the gas after a full throttle run. Basically.

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            • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

              @Minia Yeah but my question is whether people just let off the gas after a full throttle run. Basically.

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              Calum
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              @Irongamer727 Well it's just natural wear and tear of the internal combustion engine. Say if you wanted to maximise the life of an engine.

              I always blip the throttle regardless of whether people think it's a myth or not.

              Besides, I now run premix which means no throttle, no oil.

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                @Irongamer727 Well it's just natural wear and tear of the internal combustion engine. Say if you wanted to maximise the life of an engine.

                I always blip the throttle regardless of whether people think it's a myth or not.

                Besides, I now run premix which means no throttle, no oil.

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                @Calum yeah I have always done that to my 2 smokers. Though I highly doubt it's necessary on a 4 stroke.

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                • F Offline
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                  finnerz89
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                  Nothing better than the sound of a throaty engine on overrun 😍 I do it on my 4strokes, sue me lol

                  Current bikes:
                  DT125X '07
                  Street Triple R '11
                  Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                  Previous:
                  DR650RSE '96
                  FJ1200 '92

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                  • F finnerz89

                    Nothing better than the sound of a throaty engine on overrun 😍 I do it on my 4strokes, sue me lol

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                    Irongamer727
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                    @finnerz89 Are you running carbs or injection?

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                    • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                      @finnerz89 Are you running carbs or injection?

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                      @Irongamer727 injection

                      Current bikes:
                      DT125X '07
                      Street Triple R '11
                      Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                      Previous:
                      DR650RSE '96
                      FJ1200 '92

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                      • F finnerz89

                        @Irongamer727 injection

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                        @finnerz89 I do it all the time on four strokes. Won't hurt them.

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                        • CalumC Calum

                          @finnerz89 I do it all the time on four strokes. Won't hurt them.

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                          finnerz89
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                          @Calum saves on pads and discs lol

                          Current bikes:
                          DT125X '07
                          Street Triple R '11
                          Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                          Previous:
                          DR650RSE '96
                          FJ1200 '92

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                          • Irongamer727I Offline
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                            Irongamer727
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                            Even after redlining at 12k rpm?

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                            • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                              Even after redlining at 12k rpm?

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                              @Irongamer727 Oil pump is driven directly off the crankshaft. So as long as the oil pump is up to the job.

                              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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