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Power valve o rings?

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  • CalumC Online
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    Calum
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    #10

    @SpookDog Oh Yeah 🤣 How annoying.

    Sorry, it looks like they are blocking that resource.

    It's a parts diagram showing you where the O-Rings go.

    https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/main/img/assemblies/large/e2bbdd33f448b949dadded717beb407f.png?6

    I'll get it hosted elsewhere and link it in.

    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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      SpookDog
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      Fowler’s don’t like hotlinking apparently!😊
      I found the diagram, unfortunately it is different from what I have fitted. I found I can affect a seal if I slip the oring over the end cap. Without it the whole cap/bush is very loose. It slops around loads! Whereas the other side is a good fit.
      I wasn’t even sure if it was original to the barrel. Who knows what butchery was done before. The PV has 3bn on it I think, yet the barrel is 3mb. I don’t know if there’s a difference. I’m still fumbling around in the dark. The only other 2strokes I’ve worked on were air cooled, ts er’s, and more shedloads of Vespa & Lambretta’s than I can recall. I don’t recall them having an oring between them 🙂
      Cheers bud!

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      • CalumC Online
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        Calum
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        #12

        The bushes wear out.

        There were different types of powervalves, not sure how they differed on the bush side of things though.

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          SpookDog
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          #13

          One more question! Do you know what the black oring is for? I’ve got a full gasket set with black oring, but the only black oring I found was squashed into the PV and is obviously not right.
          It’s about 3/4 inch.

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            SpookDog
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            #14

            Sorry, was busy thumb typing on a tiny screen!🤪
            It’s not just the bush, the end cap it fits into also seems small. Plus it’s fixed, doesn’t move...
            I’m guessing that the 3mb was a later servo operated valve? Totally different end cap on that side?...

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              Sorry, was busy thumb typing on a tiny screen!🤪
              It’s not just the bush, the end cap it fits into also seems small. Plus it’s fixed, doesn’t move...
              I’m guessing that the 3mb was a later servo operated valve? Totally different end cap on that side?...

              CalumC Online
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              Calum
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              #15

              @SpookDog the markings on the powervalve are misleading. I can't remember what is on the 3mb barrel. I do know that the two barrels take different valves, but I don't think the codes are representative.

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                Nottsbiker
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                Dont do what I did when I was being stupid and try and fit the o-rings onto the power valve itself lol

                They go into the end caps and there is also an orange seal for the pulley end as well

                I also got a black o-ring in my Athena gasket kit from PJME and have no idea where it goes

                Wish it was the thermostat one as I need one but its the wrong size

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                • CalumC Online
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                  Calum
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                  #17

                  Thermostat is paper gasket IIRC. Kellogs Cereal will do.

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                    SpookDog
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                    #18

                    Same as in my gasket set, it’s to small. You need a 33mm one for the thermostat. Get one from eBay. If you don’t have an account someone here will probably order it for you. It’ll be pennies ...

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                      SpookDog
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                      Sorry it’s 27mm Inner Diametre X 2.5 or 3mm Cross Section.

                      Calum, cheers for the info bud, it puts my mind to rest. I always worry more when learning a new engine...

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                      • CalumC Calum

                        Thermostat is paper gasket IIRC. Kellogs Cereal will do.

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                        Nottsbiker
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                        @Calum there is an o-ring under the thermostat itself with the gasket above that

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                          SpookDog
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                          The small oring in the gasket set is for the metal coolant pipe. It goes on the end that mates to the pump. Mysteries solved!...

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                            Calum
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                            Hhmm, yeah it's been such a long time since I've worked on that engine

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                              Hey! You weren’t wrong, there is a paper gasket. I was wrong about the oring though. It’s to big for the coolant pipe🙄

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