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  • MadGyverM MadGyver

    @markus-w said in DT200R Build:

    @Challenger that's a good bit of information right there. I did think about fitting that exhaust to my bike before but wasn't entirely sure that it would fit. It's a dt125r with the Athena 170 bore kit fitted so figured the 200 exhaust may be better for it. Since we now know that it fits the 200 (albeit with a bit of heating and hammering) I presume it will also fit mine. Do you know if I'm correct in thinking that the external dimensions of the top ends on the 125/200 are near identical?

    The exhaust on the 125 is 32mm diameter and on the 200 is 37 it won't work well with that pipe,you will have a big step for the return pressure wave that pushes back the mixture at the exhaust port.The 170 has 32mm exhaust also like the 125.

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    @MadGyver ah right ok. Thank you.

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    • markus.wM markus.w

      @MadGyver ah right ok. Thank you.

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      @markus-w The athena 170cc is a great upgrade for the 125cc engine. But I wouldn't go with the 200cc pipe on it. I had that kit with athena complete exhaust system and it worked really great. But when I installed that exhaus on a DT200R it sucked. After every gear change there was a drop in power and had to wait for the engine to get to higher revs for some more power.
      So even tho the 170cc uses the 200cc piston size, the stroke stays the same, and I think you should use the 125cc pipes for your setup. (again, in my opinion athena pipe is the best one for the dtr)
      https://youtu.be/u1kb5bMY3KQ
      Here's the vid of the 170cc setup I had back in the day, crashed the bike later on and it went for parts. But it was running really good with the top end and exhaust from the same manufacturer. And it didnt even have the power valve plugged in.
      Generally athena pipe for dt125/170 is very similar to fmf pipe for wr200 when it comes to power delivery. It doesnt make your bike top-end-of-revs-only like the giannelli pipe does. Its more of a mid-tier revs concentred pipe. While the oem pipes for both of the bikes are concentred more on the low-tier of revs. Its more visible especially in the wr200, but you get the idea.

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        Here's how it looks on SM wheels. I dont ride a lot on this bike, as I prefer off-roading, but its nice to have a garage queen like this:

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        • ChallengerC Challenger

          Here's how it looks on SM wheels. I dont ride a lot on this bike, as I prefer off-roading, but its nice to have a garage queen like this:

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          Calum
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          @Challenger Such a lovely colour scheme. Wheels look mega too!

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            Nice bike mate!

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            • ChallengerC Challenger

              Here's how it looks on SM wheels. I dont ride a lot on this bike, as I prefer off-roading, but its nice to have a garage queen like this:

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              @Challenger

              Think it looks better with the blue seat ๐Ÿ‘

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                @Challenger

                Think it looks better with the blue seat ๐Ÿ‘

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                @SpookDog yes I notice yours has a yellow seat. I actually think the yellow looks good but I'm sure all the endurance blue DT's, 125 and 200 had blue seat originally.

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                • markus.wM markus.w

                  @SpookDog yes I notice yours has a yellow seat. I actually think the yellow looks good but I'm sure all the endurance blue DT's, 125 and 200 had blue seat originally.

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                  @markus-w Yes, they had a blue seat originally. It suits the frame colour I chose, but the frame plastic covers I used from YZ400F are a different kind of blue so it stands out a bit now. Originally 200's had white frame, but I didnt like that much.

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                  • markus.wM markus.w

                    @SpookDog yes I notice yours has a yellow seat. I actually think the yellow looks good but I'm sure all the endurance blue DT's, 125 and 200 had blue seat originally.

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                    @markus-w

                    What colour/s bike did the yellow seat originate from?...

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                      @markus-w

                      What colour/s bike did the yellow seat originate from?...

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                      @SpookDog I know Yamaha made a tdr250 black with yellow seat but I don't believe they ever used a yellow seat on a DT. I'd say it's an aftermarket reproduction.

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                      • markus.wM markus.w

                        @SpookDog I know Yamaha made a tdr250 black with yellow seat but I don't believe they ever used a yellow seat on a DT. I'd say it's an aftermarket reproduction.

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                        @markus-w

                        Youโ€™re probably right. The vinyl does feel thin and soft...

                        I do like the idea of a black with yellow accents Dtr. A bit like a wasp...

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                          @markus-w

                          Youโ€™re probably right. The vinyl does feel thin and soft...

                          I do like the idea of a black with yellow accents Dtr. A bit like a wasp...

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                          @SpookDog yes me too. I've seen a dtlc in black with yellow seat and it did look good. I don't think it was an original colour.

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                            @SpookDog yes me too. I've seen a dtlc in black with yellow seat and it did look good. I don't think it was an original colour.

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                            @markus-w too much like an RM

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                              There is one for sale on Jauce

                              https://www.jauce.com/auction/m1062217211

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                              Is that OEM?

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                                This is spooky now

                                https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1061285390

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                                That does look rude to be fair.

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                                  @markus-w too much like an RM

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                                  • CalumC Calum

                                    This is spooky now

                                    https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1061285390

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                                    That does look rude to be fair.

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                                      This is spooky now

                                      https://www.jauce.com/auction/x1061285390

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                                      That does look rude to be fair.

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                                      @Calum that's the one. I like it. It was a 125lc that I saw. Is that 200 a JDM colour?

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                                      • markus.wM markus.w

                                        @Calum that's the one. I like it. It was a 125lc that I saw. Is that 200 a JDM colour?

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                                        @markus-w If you write 'DT200R black' in google graphics it will show these images
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                                        The 200cc was in 3 colours: black, white and sky blue(most common).
                                        I once saw the black version in my country in ads for sale, a few years back.

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                                        • CalumC Calum

                                          @markus-w too much like an RM

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                                          @Calum said in DT200R Build:

                                          @markus-w too much like an RM

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                                          True, but the 1989/90 RMs were/are some of the most beautiful MX bikes ever made even today. They have that elusive Playboy centrefold/Spitfire-flying-past-the-white-cliffs-of-Dover visual quality you don't see very often and IMO you could say the same for the original TS125R whose styling was based on the 1989 RMs.

                                          Unfortunately although the TS125R did everything a little better than the DTR on paper, the AETC valves were prone to dropping into the bore at high rpm and completely wrecking the engine and it never enjoyed the press and showroom success of the DTR. DTR is a better bike 99% of the time but I'd still love one just for the looks!

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                                          Also Suzuki eventually succumbed to the 90s cat's vomit graphics phase and the post-'91 RMs just looked awful.

                                          https://pulpmx.com/2022/07/05/maxxis-tires-classic-steel-173-1992-suzuki-rm-125/

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