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Hi! What’s the best way of removing the twin short bronze bushes from the rear suspension linkage, also the ones on the swingarm? One gets in the way of the other so I can’t press them out. I’ve tried heat and ‘hammer & screwdriver’ approach, so as to get to the other, but to no joy…
Cheers for any help, advice. I couldn’t find sh!t on the search engine…

@Calum

I remember you having a Li-ion bonfire
but the thing I’m most interested in is the old AC/DC bikes that have three coils on the stator. The ignition coil is horizontal on the top of the stator. The lighting and charging coils are at a V at the bottom of the stator.
I don’t claim to understand it but the lighting & charging coils are both numbered the same in the Haynes manual and seem to be connected, unlike the ignition coil which seems to be more isolated.
It would seem to have something to do with my investigation into why my headlight dims badly (when I have a FUBAR battery) when I use the brake lights, horn or indicators.
I’m hoping that the short life of my battery’s is down to the Reg/Rec being of the oriental OEM variety that’s always been on the bike since I got it. Like the lighting coil being burnt out. It’s the last gremlin on the bike since I got it as a basket case back when the pandemic started. Unfortunately my multi metre chose this time to die, just when I want to check the coils….

The later DC only bikes (anything with more than 3coils) don’t apply to me, unfortunately ….

On average I need a new battery once a year. If I don’t replace it I start to get the headlight dim when I use the brake lights, or even horn sometimes. I’ve tried 5amp, gel, they all die a bit over a year…

I’ve always had a Chinese replacement Rectifier/Regulator that came with the bike. It has its own short cable loom (2~3in) The original block connector that is connected to the loom has a melt mark on the connector block. The new~used R/R is marked bn with a load of numbers after it. The lighting coil was FUBAR when I got the bike as well. It looked like the block connector rested against the exhaust and earthed out the lighting coil, the previous owner replaced the R/R with the cheap and nasty that’s currently on there. I have the new~used R/R to go on and a new battery coming…

So my question remains: how often do you have to replace your battery? This only applies to 1988~96 bikes. As I remember they went from 3 coils (A/C lighting) to being totally DC so the headlight ran from the battery and the ‘R/R’ had no provision for A/C for the ‘old fashioned’ headlight on the early bikes…

@HOTSHOT-III
I thought that it’d do the same thing but without having to ‘fight’ it’s way through the two little holes in the bolts. The one I took apart and degreased last night had ‘scorch’ marks either end. That was with me having the original bush with the two holes as well. I think this would be a better ‘delivery system’ without having to drill the long centre bushes.
I’ve got an old swingarm that has a grease nipple either side in the middle of each part the swingarm bolt runs through…
I want to ‘up my game’ since finding the scorch marks on the ‘dogbone’ long bush…

Cheers bud, I thought you were using red rubber grease which is excellent for certain applications, but I thought too sticky, with no ‘travel’ if that makes any sense? I was thinking of CV booot grease just because it moves so freely and might be easier when using the Grease Gun…
Lithium general purpose is tried and tested through. Cheers for the input, it’s given me a lot of confidence …
Richy…

@HOTSHOT-III

Did you ever manage to get any of them drilled?
It might be easier to fit a nipple to the linkage and the swingarm (centre of) the rear dogbone join? At least the grease would be going where it should (like the frame mount with roller bearings). Not trying to work it’s way out of the centre of the 2mm holes in the 2 dog bone bolts and then through the full length bush, that’s if they even have holes…

Does that make sense, Or has my dementia catching up on me?! ‍

PS what grease to use. Normal,l lithium, red~rubber or CV joint black grease. Or am I missing something? There’s so little movement really…

Just found the allballs kit picks and everything I’ve got looks right except the full length bronze ‘tubes’ (x2) for the dog bones and the single tube (roller bearings) the fits inside the link that attaches to the frame. Any idea where I can get those 3 full length bushes?…
Cheers peeps, sorry for any confusion …

Damn the ones recommended last year are the wrong size. The long dog bone bolts sit in a single long bush. Mine are 2 per bolt and too big. Not sure about the roller bearings but the look was too big for the bolt that joins the frame. More like swingarm size…

Anywhere do a complete kit bolts and all?…

@facundo-duarte

There are loads of unused block connectors all over my 1988. Just cause it’s there doesn’t mean it HAS to be used…

Your jetting is perfect for a late model Mikuni 28mm flatslide…

I’d try removing the side of the air box yourself (don’t take somebody else’s word on it) and remove the the foam element. They fall apart over time, especially the aftermarket ones….
They need cleaning with solvent, or petrol but make sure it’s proper dry. Then you have to wet it with oil and squeeze out all the excess…

@HOTSHOT-III

Jesus! Last time I saw them over Dorset was 1921 or so. It was like petrol on wet tarmac, herbaly enhanced but amazing just the same…

I don’t need swingarm roller bearings. I put some I a while ago. Thanks for the heads up that it can be removed without removing the swingarm. I’ve got2 roller bearings, 5 bushes & 6 new oil seals.

It’s good to know that you’re still out there saving green rookies…

Richy

HotShot! have you ever removed the bearing races from the linkage. i was searching to see if i could remove the linkage without removing the swing arm. i remember buying new bearings (needle rollers) but keeping the original bolts/nuts with the grease nipples (somebody told me they don't wear much), i cant remember if i bought phosphur bronze bushes for the non bearing bolts. its been so long since i worked on the dtr. i had to put a new clutchside crankshaft seal on my sisters Astra along with a 100 other jobs. i cant remember whether the dogbones end has bushing or the bottom of the rear spring as well. i need to remember what im raiding the shed for cause i don't remember what i got or the whereabouts of any of the bits i bought...

i guess its gonna take some heat to drift out the old bearing shells (& maybe bushes) then some delicate drawing them in. Good job i bought them the linkage came up as an MOT advisory cause it put almost a CM play of movement into the linkage...

any help or advice will be well apreciated...

@Calum

yeah, yamaha doesnt recomend cleaning the foam element with petrol, but as long as you dry it out its noy a problem. then lightly oil the foam and sqeeze out any excess in a bit or two of kitchen roll. make sure to clean the rubber 'snorkel' and any dirt/dust from the top of the airbox...
brake clutch cleaner works well too...

@gazza76
the neutral switch is part of the side stand curcuit. its when you take it out of neutral and put it into gear that it cuts out the engine, i think. someone who has one fitted would be more 100% more definite than me who doesnt have one fitted...

its probly best to follow the wires from the side stand switch and see what they leed to...

I think it’s got a big bore kit on it and the crank and piston was covered with sticky oil and shtuff that gets left after everything evaporated. Washing the tank and carb of the ‘paraffin’ smelling two stroke was so bad that I removed the reeds and plugged them ant the exhaust outlet. Washed the crank case out with fresh petrol and good oil. Haven’t had a chance to put it back together and try it yet . Health issues are really making me feel the cold…
I’ll get there cause I’m a stubborn bastard

@facundo-duarte

Try cleaning your air filter. All you are doing is by-passing the filter and sponge element.

Check out 21

Also looks like you have a clutch switch on your lever~perch?…

I don’t know where to get a relay from…

It also appears that you got a ‘Read’ switch
number 11 on the ‘key’ page…

You don’t have an electric start button on your throttle side switch gear, do you…

Good luck bud, it’ll be a niggley stupid thing that one of the nine previous has inflicted. You’ll get there…

@gazza76

On my 88 the side stand switch has just been disconnected. Mine is a bit weird though. I’ve got 2 relays under the seat, both connected. Also got spare wires near the CDI that I think turned out to be a clutch switch, and something to do with an electric start!

The engine cut out works by the black and white (or yellow, been a long time since I last looked) earthing to the frame. That’s why disconnecting them lets it spark…
I’ll try and get a pic of the wiring loom…

Colour and part key:

@Calum

Hey bud! Hope life treating you well…

It’s what’s been twisting my cantaloupe! The only time I had anything like it before was after a rebuild, and then only for a short time
I’ve had zero experience with 50cc mini moto X bikes. I thought it’d be like pull starting a lawnmower or a big chainsaw. Then again I’spose they were set up for RPM speed, not torque like a 2 stroke without a power band…

Well wasn’t the pipe, with the pipe off and the plug only screwed in a bit (so it’s definitely not touching the piston). It does the same massive compression thing. It hasn’t been started for over a few years, or more.
I’m wondering if it’s just dry inside the barrel. Not sure of the best way to lube it with 2 stroke…

Howdy do folks?!

It’s been a while but I’d value any opinions:
I’ve just replaced the pull start on my neighbour kids mini KXD. If I take out the spark plug and pull it, it feels normal (kinda like a 40cc chainsaw) but if I put it back in ,it feels like I’m try to start a 400cc single!!…
I’m guessing I’ve got a very blocked exhaust pipe. The Downpipe isn’t much fatter than my skinny thumb!…
It’s a very short plug and doesn’t close up when tightened in…

What yooz think?…

@Mr-em

Why do you need a single fork?