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Dtr 125 zeelectronic info

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  • terry.tzT terry.tz

    @declan just been looking at the software looks easy to deal with no stupid extra charge for a silly device to programme it just download plug into laptop and easy programme tool

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    @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

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      @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

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      @declan said in Dtr 125 zeelectronic info:

      @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

      Why not just use a standard 89/90 cdi there is no restriction at all in them and the bike will rev completely out and do the clock with the right gearing.

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        @declan said in Dtr 125 zeelectronic info:

        @terry-tz hmmm looks like I’m gonna have to ask Father Christmas lol do you know to any uk distributors?

        Why not just use a standard 89/90 cdi there is no restriction at all in them and the bike will rev completely out and do the clock with the right gearing.

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        @scrimsmustang can't imagine them being cheap

        "Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone" Alan Watts

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          so won't save much and there will be no servo control and kind of not plug and play I don't know just making the assumption

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          • terry.tzT terry.tz

            so won't save much and there will be no servo control and kind of not plug and play I don't know just making the assumption

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            @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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            • declanD declan

              @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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              @declan write to them yourself. Just Google ignitech and email them. They will answer in a matter of minutes!

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              • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                @declan write to them yourself. Just Google ignitech and email them. They will answer in a matter of minutes!

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                @irongamer727 will do thank you!

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                • declanD declan

                  @terry-tz your right mate they’re hard to get and expensive besides isn’t adjustable ignition fucking cool?

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                  @declan Could just step the ignition for more advance. That's what they do on the Rotax 122 engines.

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                    @declan Could just step the ignition for more advance. That's what they do on the Rotax 122 engines.

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                    @calum In theory could you not just try moving the statorplate to advance or retard the ignition slightly. I notice they are fixed set on all DTR,s by the screws with no adjustment allowed. Thats not the case on old DT,s like 175MX or DT125LC MK1 etc these all use cdi ignitions but all allow advance and retard at the statorplate.

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                      @calum In theory could you not just try moving the statorplate to advance or retard the ignition slightly. I notice they are fixed set on all DTR,s by the screws with no adjustment allowed. Thats not the case on old DT,s like 175MX or DT125LC MK1 etc these all use cdi ignitions but all allow advance and retard at the statorplate.

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                      @scrimsmustang Bore out the holes on the stator play to allow some wiggle room.

                      The problem is, you're stepping the whole ignition, even at high RPM's where the ignition will be slightly retarded to reduce the risk of detonation.

                      I know they do it to the Rotax, but then that's a competition engine. Where people maticulously maintain them. And they're built every season.

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                        @scrimsmustang Bore out the holes on the stator play to allow some wiggle room.

                        The problem is, you're stepping the whole ignition, even at high RPM's where the ignition will be slightly retarded to reduce the risk of detonation.

                        I know they do it to the Rotax, but then that's a competition engine. Where people maticulously maintain them. And they're built every season.

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                        @calum Yeah allow a little wiggle room like you say, its possible on the old ones. I recon its just Yamaha playing safe on the DTR if you have a strobe light you can do it I recon to any degree you want from a base setting of standard. In theory

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                          @Darty do you think there will be much need for one on a yz? or the cdi will be well tuned as is?

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                          Golf Mk3 20v Turbo 1996

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                            @Darty do you think there will be much need for one on a yz? or the cdi will be well tuned as is?

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                            @gareth_iowc stock YZ CDI is already very good, tuning YZ ignition timing is much more specialist knowledge,

                            Unless your runing a custom pipe and port timing, I wouldnt bother with a custom CDI,

                            Keep it real

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                              @Darty do you think there will be much need for one on a yz? or the cdi will be well tuned as is?

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                              @gareth_iowc Yes, there is a need for aftermarket CDI's always. The YZ is designed for track use and isn't great for road. Retarding the ignition, smoothing the band out will help.

                              YOu could also tailor the band to specific tracks.

                              But as Darty says, you're getting very specialist here. You'd need a dyno to measure the results.

                              But on the tame DTR's, it's very noticeable difference.

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