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  • CalumC Offline
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    Calum
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    Ignition is a vague term.

    It ranges from vehicle to vehicle. But on the DT, the ignition system comprises of:

    Fly Wheel, Stator, Pick Up, Magneto, Coil, HT Lead, Spark Plug & CDI. Probably something else, but that's about the jist.

    So asking, Ignition Upgrade, is really vague. You need to be more specific.

    Fitting reeds has nothing to do with the ignition, so not sure why that's been suggested.

    Clearly the person doesn't know what they're on about, or trying to pull a fast one...

    Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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    • CalumC Calum

      Ignition is a vague term.

      It ranges from vehicle to vehicle. But on the DT, the ignition system comprises of:

      Fly Wheel, Stator, Pick Up, Magneto, Coil, HT Lead, Spark Plug & CDI. Probably something else, but that's about the jist.

      So asking, Ignition Upgrade, is really vague. You need to be more specific.

      Fitting reeds has nothing to do with the ignition, so not sure why that's been suggested.

      Clearly the person doesn't know what they're on about, or trying to pull a fast one...

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      ryanjimccfc
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      @calum okay Thank you for your help mate

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        Darty
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        @calum,

        Thanks.

        Keep it real

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        • DartyD Darty

          @calum,

          Thanks.

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          Calum
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          @darty Ha it was you lol. Cmon Darty, ignition, you're more technical than that lol.

          Ignition is a vague term. You meant CDI. Which is only part of the ignition.

          On my DT I replaced the lot with items that had "Racing" in the description. Because if it doesn't say that then it's clearly not better right!

          It comes down to what you want to do with your bike.

          If you're using it daily, then leave it stock. If it's a weekend toy and you want to start tuning it up, bang for buck I'd say swapping out the CDI for an aftermarket one is probably one of the most noticeable things you can do. An exhaust system comes close second.

          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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          • CalumC Calum

            @darty Ha it was you lol. Cmon Darty, ignition, you're more technical than that lol.

            Ignition is a vague term. You meant CDI. Which is only part of the ignition.

            On my DT I replaced the lot with items that had "Racing" in the description. Because if it doesn't say that then it's clearly not better right!

            It comes down to what you want to do with your bike.

            If you're using it daily, then leave it stock. If it's a weekend toy and you want to start tuning it up, bang for buck I'd say swapping out the CDI for an aftermarket one is probably one of the most noticeable things you can do. An exhaust system comes close second.

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            Darty
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            @calum Guess we are all morons then.

            Agreed though, it is not worth spending the money if you do not know how to use it.

            But I use my DT daily, it runs as good as I want it to. That is benefit of a Tunable 'Capacitor Discharge Ignition'

            Ignition.

            Keep it real

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            • DartyD Darty

              @calum Guess we are all morons then.

              Agreed though, it is not worth spending the money if you do not know how to use it.

              But I use my DT daily, it runs as good as I want it to. That is benefit of a Tunable 'Capacitor Discharge Ignition'

              Ignition.

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              Calum
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              @darty My DT would have been sound as a daily. In fact, it was sound daily. It was the rear sprocket carrier that failed lol. Haven't ridden it since then.

              Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                ryanjimccfc
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                Mines just a weekend you what cdi should I look at?

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                • R ryanjimccfc

                  Mines just a weekend you what cdi should I look at?

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                  Calum
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                  @ryanjimccfc Me and Darty have differing opinions.

                  I run Zeeltronic Ignition system. I will be getting another Zeeltronic for my RS iminently.

                  @Darty Would recommend the Ignitech Ignition system, which I believe is ยฃ100 cheaper.

                  Either one you chose should be a lovely upgrade, and really comes into its own when you start adding the other mods.

                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                    ryanjimccfc
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                    Is there anywhere I could take it to get tuned and set up

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                    • R ryanjimccfc

                      Is there anywhere I could take it to get tuned and set up

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                      Calum
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                      @ryanjimccfc DIY.

                      The Zeeltronic system will come with 5 different maps to try out.

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                        ryanjimccfc
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                        And will one of them deffo work and will it work on a 1994 dtr

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                        • R ryanjimccfc

                          And will one of them deffo work and will it work on a 1994 dtr

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                          Calum
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                          @ryanjimccfc Why don't you ask the company that?

                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                          • CalumC Calum

                            @ryanjimccfc Why don't you ask the company that?

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                            ryanjimccfc
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                            @calum I was just asking because people come across good people and stuff thought I might as well see if there was any one you recommend

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                              @calum I was just asking because people come across good people and stuff thought I might as well see if there was any one you recommend

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                              @ryanjimccfc itโ€™s my understanding that a base map will work but if you want to get your moneyโ€™s worth you should really tune the map to your bike and needs but thatโ€™s just my understanding

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                                Nothing will come close to a rolling road tune-up session, as that will get the best out of all of your mods and upgrades in one go. If you want the best performance it's money well spent. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                                  Nothing will come close to a rolling road tune-up session, as that will get the best out of all of your mods and upgrades in one go. If you want the best performance it's money well spent. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  Calum
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                                  @ninja On a car, yes, but on a Carb Bike, ey? The base maps will give a noticeable increase in power throughout the rev range. After that, it's just subtle changes that will only register on a dyno.

                                  Merely because the CDI only controls the ignition at one point in time. Unlike an ECU which will consider, temperature, load, stress, oil pressure. Then controls fueling as well as ignition. Much more precisely and therefore far more gains.

                                  Get an ignition, will sweeten the whole bike. Then uprate the fueling, And you'll be laughing.,

                                  Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                    @ninja On a car, yes, but on a Carb Bike, ey? The base maps will give a noticeable increase in power throughout the rev range. After that, it's just subtle changes that will only register on a dyno.

                                    Merely because the CDI only controls the ignition at one point in time. Unlike an ECU which will consider, temperature, load, stress, oil pressure. Then controls fueling as well as ignition. Much more precisely and therefore far more gains.

                                    Get an ignition, will sweeten the whole bike. Then uprate the fueling, And you'll be laughing.,

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                                    NINJA
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                                    @calum said in Dtr125 ignition upgrade:

                                    Get an ignition, will sweeten the whole bike. Then uprate the fueling, And you'll be laughing.,

                                    As in an Tunable 'Capacitor Discharge Ignition' ??? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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                                      ryanjimccfc
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                                      I already have a bigger carb I have vforce reeds on the way I have different coil hand made exhaust Athena 170 on the way open air filter because of the carb but have power valve pinned at the moment just want to make the most out of the upgrades

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                                        ryanjimccfc
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                                        @Calum how do I find out what one to order mine is a dtr 125 1994 with 3mb engine not sure what loom or cdi it has

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                                          I already have a bigger carb I have vforce reeds on the way I have different coil hand made exhaust Athena 170 on the way open air filter because of the carb but have power valve pinned at the moment just want to make the most out of the upgrades

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                                          NINJA
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                                          @ryanjimccfc A programmeable CDI is the next must have upgrade for you then. As that will bring out the best from all those other parts for-sure. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE!!!

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