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What temp should a dtr125 run at

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    ryanjimccfc
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    I have stage 6 clocks

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      I have stage 6 clocks

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      declan
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      @ryanjimccfc but where is the temp sensor

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        Irongamer727
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        Mine runs at 57-60 degrees. If you stand still sometimes 80 degrees.

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          @ryanjimccfc mine runs at 90-100•c I let it cool if it reaches 110 (coolant sensor)

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          @declan that's REALLY hot. Something is weird. What then gauge are you using?

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            ryanjimccfc
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            It's in the cylinder head

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              finnerz89
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              My temp probe sits in the radiator fins (it's a trailtech) and the max I've recorded is 87degs.
              Bear in mind that's with waterless coolant so nowhere near it's boiling point and it runs higher anyway.

              Current bikes:
              DT125X '07
              Street Triple R '11
              Aprilia ETV1000 '02

              Previous:
              DR650RSE '96
              FJ1200 '92

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                Irongamer727
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                Mine is in the cylinder head.

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                  ryanjimccfc
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                  Mine goes upto about 88 some times just wondering if that's to hot

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                    Mine goes upto about 88 some times just wondering if that's to hot

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                    @ryanjimccfc that's fine mate

                    Current bikes:
                    DT125X '07
                    Street Triple R '11
                    Aprilia ETV1000 '02

                    Previous:
                    DR650RSE '96
                    FJ1200 '92

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                    • Irongamer727I Irongamer727

                      Mine is in the cylinder head.

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                      @irongamer727 i have a temp reading coolant cap yea I thought it was a little hot but it seems to run fine and iv had a lot hottter engines than that

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                        @irongamer727 i have a temp reading coolant cap yea I thought it was a little hot but it seems to run fine and iv had a lot hottter engines than that

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                        @declan Bear in mind, by the time the temperature at the coolant cap reaches X, it's already too late.

                        Personally, I'd run the temperature underneath the spark plug using a thermal coupling, or failing that at the cylinder head.

                        If your engine is bog standard, then you haven't got to worry, but once you start modifying, temperature is key to understanding the risks of detonation.

                        So getting as accurate reading as possible is going to help.

                        The hotter the engine, the more at risk you are to detonation. My DT runs savagely hot in traffic at idle even reaching temperatures of 110 degrees celcius.

                        But you must appreciate the forumula

                        pV = nrt

                        The specific latent heat of a substance is increased as pressure increases. So whilst water may boil at 100 degrees at sea level, that's not the case at 1.3 bar, which the radiator cap is rated to.

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                          Minia
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                          You shouldn't need to really worry until it sits at more than 105 or so.

                          Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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                            You shouldn't need to really worry until it sits at more than 105 or so.

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                            @minia mine sits at 100 at the cap so I guess mines overheating? I don’t get coolant over boil

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                              @minia mine sits at 100 at the cap so I guess mines overheating? I don’t get coolant over boil

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                              @declan As I say, pressure needs to exceed 1.3 bar, which is massive. If you imagine my car only generates 0.8 bar of boost pressure.

                              This is a why waterless coolant has its benefits. 1.3 bar of pressure is exerted on the entirety of your coolant system. It's going to be mainly the radiator that will take the most damage. The drawback is that the specific heat capacity of it is less, resulting in higher operating temperatures.

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                                @declan As I say, pressure needs to exceed 1.3 bar, which is massive. If you imagine my car only generates 0.8 bar of boost pressure.

                                This is a why waterless coolant has its benefits. 1.3 bar of pressure is exerted on the entirety of your coolant system. It's going to be mainly the radiator that will take the most damage. The drawback is that the specific heat capacity of it is less, resulting in higher operating temperatures.

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                                declan
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                                @calum have you seen the workshops videos on yt about waterless coolant I wouldn’t touch the stuff it’s a good listen either way if you get free time

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                                  @minia mine sits at 100 at the cap so I guess mines overheating? I don’t get coolant over boil

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                                  @declan You're not overheating as long as your engine and coolant system still run efficiently. Keep in mind when water is pressurised it requires more energy for it to boil, which is why if you're riding hard on a bike your thermometer might say 105 celcius, but actually it's fine because it is pressurised and therefore your boiling point is raised.

                                  And besides you will feel it if your engine is struggling, it will smell hot, you'll lose power, you'll hear it struggle at lower rpms etc

                                  Yamaha DT125R Blue 2002, XT 125 1982, Yamaha WR250Z 1992, BMW GS650F 1994, Benelli BN302 2015

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                                    @declan You're not overheating as long as your engine and coolant system still run efficiently. Keep in mind when water is pressurised it requires more energy for it to boil, which is why if you're riding hard on a bike your thermometer might say 105 celcius, but actually it's fine because it is pressurised and therefore your boiling point is raised.

                                    And besides you will feel it if your engine is struggling, it will smell hot, you'll lose power, you'll hear it struggle at lower rpms etc

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                                    declan
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                                    @minia it’s not something that worries me tbh I ain’t rode it in ages it’s rotting on the garden sadly

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                                      Jens Eskildsen
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                                      Normal, what is normal? Outside temps vary by 20c theese days where im located. You'll have a hard time to reach 70c at the cap in the morning just cruising around, and having a hard time not to exceed 110c at the head in the afternoon on a tight track. Some valid points to where you meassure, temps will read higher in the head, compared to on top of the radiator.

                                      Waterless coolant boils at higher temps, but something like Evans actually remove less heat from the engine, so...whats the point of that? I've never heard of anyone damaging a radiater due to cooling preassure. 1,3 bar isnt normal running pressure, but maximum pressure, before the cap lifts and "bleeds of" the excess. If you're worried, buy a cap with less pressure.

                                      Unless it boils, its fine. Bike is designed to function with 100c or more coolant, otherwise it wouldnt have a 1,3bar cap on. Everyday use should be less of that, ofcourse. But the thermostat isnt even fully open at 80C, come on people...

                                      Unless something is off, its also just about impossible to get detonation in our bikes with super low compression. I've ridden mine on 20% diesel as part of a bet, no issues.

                                      Theres always small exeptions for modified engines, which generate more power and heat, but that goes for any engine.

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                                        Jens Eskildsen
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                                        Btw, isnt our stock cap a 1,1? Thats what I recall anyway.

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                                          Btw, isnt our stock cap a 1,1? Thats what I recall anyway.

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                                          @jens-eskildsen 1.3 on my Starlet, I've been away from my DT so long I can't even remember.

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