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TDR 125 19XX

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  • MightymanM Offline
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    Mightyman
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    I actually didn't get the Nova number or the reg number but I will be contacting the owner who imported the bike so hopefully I'll be able to attain it from him! Won't the DVLA give me a new reg?

    TDR 125 - 2001

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      I actually didn't get the Nova number or the reg number but I will be contacting the owner who imported the bike so hopefully I'll be able to attain it from him! Won't the DVLA give me a new reg?

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      @MIGHTYMAN Yes they'll give you a new reg when I done it I had to give them the old foreign log book and the nova registration number and pay a £55 reg fee and it was done but you may need to supply them with a dating certificate as well as the nova number if you don't have a foreign v5 as they're funny like that and may want to Q plate it after inspecting it but definitely a good idea to get in touch with the person who brought it in to the uk mate.

      Every problem has a solution

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        I will have to write a letter to the importer if I can't get his email, as I do have his address. DeeTeeMX does have a couple of different DT carbs but I've no idea which one I should ask for. He said he has standard ones or a bigger Dell Orto. Should I just play it safe and get a standard DT one?

        TDR 125 - 2001

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          will be a nice project

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            Mightyman
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            Took the bike apart a little bit more to store it until I can make space for it.

            I'll be working on the engine first and will hopefully take a look inside this week.

            In the mean time I just need to order a rear tyre for my new rear wheel, a power valve, a carb, and a clutch case. Still unsure of what carb to buy though. My carb boot / rubber inlet measures 35mm and says 3BN on it. Is that indicating that I must buy the smaller sized carb?

            TDR 125 - 2001

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              Took the cylinder off today. Found a piston with a smashed skirt!

              Cylinder walls don't look scored, but it could do with a rebore.

              The rings and small end bearing look in VERY good condition so I'm thinking at this point the previous owner may have put in a cheap eBay piston that perhaps wasn't the right size and caused piston slap?

              No up and down play on the conrod either so I'm sure that'll be good to use again without needing work done to it but I'll have to split the cases anyway just to grab any bits of piston lurking down there as I can still hear a small scratching sound when turning the engine.

              An overtightened kick start nut stopped me from progressing but I'll get that sorted tomorrow.

              Does this look like an aftermarket inlet as it doesn't have the hole for the oil pipe on top?

              TDR 125 - 2001

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                Managed to get the kick starter lever nut off after I got the grinder out.

                Took the clutch cover off to find a bad sight.

                Although on the plus side, the clutch plates, springs and spring retaining bolts look brand new!

                Couldn't quite work out what the broken bits were, then these black rubber bits starting appearing from no where!

                Figured out where all the bits came from once I took the clutch off...

                That was what the scratching sound was. Couldn't work out how something like that could have happened, the only thing missing was the washer that goes on the end of the rev gear but that wouldn't have cause this amount of damage. Then I noticed this.

                I removed the gear to find that the circlip behind it had been pushed a little bit too far back. This could have caused the kick start idling gear to wiggle just enough that it hit the back of the clutch basket. Not 100% sure but seems feasible.

                Also there is a hole here, but I'm not sure if it is supposed to be there.

                All organised for another day.

                TDR 125 - 2001

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                  Re: TDR 125 19XX
                  Hi there I was going to buy this but the guy took it off eBay.
                  I have the same bike that I'm tidying at the moment.
                  The standard carb is a dellorto phbh 28.
                  My one was imported in 2002 and registered to the guy I bought it from, the bike has been off the road in the owners shed since 2002 so the piston was seized in the bore and the carb was full of the usual green residue, nothing a new piston and a wash in my sonic bath didn't cure.
                  It is a bit different to the dt like shorter rear shock, radiator ect and not being restricted is alsayw a plus.

                  Good luck

                  Paul

                  Automotive addiction is real HONEST😬.

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                    Hi Paul, I did get lucky with the ad I must admit. The chap had it up for £245 on an auction and no one placed a bid! I missed it at the last minute and so messaged him offering £200 to collect and to my surprise he said yes! That's interesting that you have a 28 carb as the inlet on my engine measures around 35mm. Maybe I need to purchase another inlet if mine isn't stock.

                    TDR 125 - 2001

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                    • MightymanM Mightyman

                      Hi Paul, I did get lucky with the ad I must admit. The chap had it up for £245 on an auction and no one placed a bid! I missed it at the last minute and so messaged him offering £200 to collect and to my surprise he said yes! That's interesting that you have a 28 carb as the inlet on my engine measures around 35mm. Maybe I need to purchase another inlet if mine isn't stock.

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                      @MIGHTYMAN my inlet was damaged so I thought that's ok I'll fit a dt one, the dt manifold was to small for the dellorto carb so I enlarged derestricted and flowed it with the help of my trusty pen knife and a Dremel with a flap wheel on it.

                      Automotive addiction is real HONEST😬.

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                        I'm definitely considering just getting a stock DT carb and inlet as a Dell Orto is proving too hard / pricey to source.

                        TDR 125 - 2001

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                        • MightymanM Mightyman

                          I'm definitely considering just getting a stock DT carb and inlet as a Dell Orto is proving too hard / pricey to source.

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                          @MIGHTYMAN I found a dellorto phbh 28 for about £60 new, they use them a lot on vespas. I was thinking about using one on my 180 gilera runner fxr but I'm trying to keep it standard.
                          https://www.wasp-performance.co.uk/onlineshop/prod_1875543-Carburettor-PHBH-28-BS-with-Manual-Flip-Choke-Lever.html

                          I think I still have the standard jet sizes written down if you need them.

                          Automotive addiction is real HONEST😬.

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                            @MIGHTYMAN I found a dellorto phbh 28 for about £60 new, they use them a lot on vespas. I was thinking about using one on my 180 gilera runner fxr but I'm trying to keep it standard.
                            https://www.wasp-performance.co.uk/onlineshop/prod_1875543-Carburettor-PHBH-28-BS-with-Manual-Flip-Choke-Lever.html

                            I think I still have the standard jet sizes written down if you need them.

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                            Calum
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                            @tdrpaul The stock carb is better than those PHBH Carbs. They are a 28mm round slide carb. Flat slide is far superior.

                            Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                              @tdrpaul The stock carb is better than those PHBH Carbs. They are a 28mm round slide carb. Flat slide is far superior.

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                              @Calum hi Calum I agree the flat slide is a lot better carb but the dellorto phbh 28 is the standard carb for the early Italian made tdr 125.
                              I have a low mileage one owner 1989 tdr and I want to keep it totally original but finding original parts isn't easy.

                              Paul

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                              • MightymanM Mightyman

                                I'm definitely considering just getting a stock DT carb and inlet as a Dell Orto is proving too hard / pricey to source.

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                                @MIGHTYMAN or grab a mikuni tmx 32. They are common enough.

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                                • CalumC Calum

                                  @MIGHTYMAN or grab a mikuni tmx 32. They are common enough.

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                                  Mightyman
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                                  @Calum Would I then still need a stock DT inlet for a tmx 32? Or is there a chance my current BIG inlet would be alright?

                                  TDR 125 - 2001

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                                    @Calum Would I then still need a stock DT inlet for a tmx 32? Or is there a chance my current BIG inlet would be alright?

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                                    @MIGHTYMAN the manifold in the pic is the standard manifold for the dellorto carb which has the oil pipe connection on the carb.

                                    Automotive addiction is real HONEST😬.

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                                      @Calum Would I then still need a stock DT inlet for a tmx 32? Or is there a chance my current BIG inlet would be alright?

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                                      @MIGHTYMAN Stock carb is 28mm TMX 32 is 32MM. So it should fit,.

                                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                                        Now it's (hopefully) going to be warming up outside a bit, I thought I would get back into this project again. Last night took a look at the crankshaft to find some of the bits of piston had been lodged inside the gaps in the conrod..

                                        https://youtu.be/oJv-wv8eEYQ

                                        Also started the clean up job on the engine cases.

                                        A bag full of steel wire rotary bits

                                        Starting it off

                                        https://youtu.be/9bUSrAkcnSs

                                        15 mins = 1 down!

                                        TDR 125 - 2001

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                                          Looks like that crank is going to want a rebuild.

                                          I don't know how easy it is to get ahold of a new crank pin for these engines. If that crank pin is scored then you may find yourself needing to buy a new crank.

                                          Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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