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  • declanD declan

    fuel evaporates leaving just oil, also could be fuel leaking down into the bottom end via a dirty float needle

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    @declan But the engines are manifold injected oil, not carb. So why would the carb have oil in it?

    I only run V-Power and it's still an issue. I'd suspect dirty/sticky float and emptying the float by raking it up the road seems to sort it out a treat.

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      Yeah, I know. Plus I always turn my petrol off (sis’s carport🏍)
      That’s why I thought that it was the 2/ oil ‘falling’ through. I know tzr’s Have a ball bearing and spring to stop flow without the pump working against it. Don’t know about the Dtr though...

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        @declan But the engines are manifold injected oil, not carb. So why would the carb have oil in it?

        I only run V-Power and it's still an issue. I'd suspect dirty/sticky float and emptying the float by raking it up the road seems to sort it out a treat.

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        @Calum massive oversight on my part forgot about injection 🤐,

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          It’s definitely been gravity feeding the oil in. I left the pipe off with a noticeable air gap at the top (5mm). It’s right the way up to the top of the pipe now...
          I can’t believe that I’m the only person that this has happened to. It might be shite watery 2/ oil though. It was in there when I got the bike...
          Any suggestions on what and where to buy in bulk? A gallon, maybe?...

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            It’s definitely been gravity feeding the oil in. I left the pipe off with a noticeable air gap at the top (5mm). It’s right the way up to the top of the pipe now...
            I can’t believe that I’m the only person that this has happened to. It might be shite watery 2/ oil though. It was in there when I got the bike...
            Any suggestions on what and where to buy in bulk? A gallon, maybe?...

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            @SpookDog castrol is always good can usually get good bulk deals on it check ebay

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              I don’t know about anyone else but I always notice my bike smoke loads on start up, it’s not until she’s given a good Rev or ridden through powerband the first time that she coughs up a load of smoke then eases off and goes to normal
              I’ve been told oil injected bikes are a known for being like that

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              • declanD declan

                @Calum massive oversight on my part forgot about injection 🤐,

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                @declan i forgot about injection too but then mine is on premix.

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                  I don’t know about anyone else but I always notice my bike smoke loads on start up, it’s not until she’s given a good Rev or ridden through powerband the first time that she coughs up a load of smoke then eases off and goes to normal
                  I’ve been told oil injected bikes are a known for being like that

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                  @Stevie-Wonder yeah that goes for all 2 strokes the oil doesent burn efficiently at lower temps so you need to clear their throats when they do warm up

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                    Since last night it’s filled up the air gap at the top of the tube and has a big ole drip on it. Not much but over the course of a week or two it adds up. Dunno why there isn’t a ball/spring one way valve like the Tzr?

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                      That doesn't sound right. I don't recall bubbles coming up on my oil feed.

                      Regardless, it shouldn't make too much difference. So long as it doesn't make its way to the pump.

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                        I mean I took the pipe off that goes onto the inlet manifold, after the pump. The air was just from pulling it off. I Left it off overnight. It was higher than where it pushes on, not hanging down...

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                          I mean I took the pipe off that goes onto the inlet manifold, after the pump. The air was just from pulling it off. I Left it off overnight. It was higher than where it pushes on, not hanging down...

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                          WoW!...
                          I emptied out the 2/ bottle and rebled the pump in last night with good oil. I put the small diameter clear pipe on that runs from pump to inlet, but I left it empty.
                          Since last night it has risen 4inches just gravity feeding through the pipe!! I’m seriously thinking of getting a one way valve if possible. Anyone know of any purpose made bits? Before I search...

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                            WoW!...
                            I emptied out the 2/ bottle and rebled the pump in last night with good oil. I put the small diameter clear pipe on that runs from pump to inlet, but I left it empty.
                            Since last night it has risen 4inches just gravity feeding through the pipe!! I’m seriously thinking of getting a one way valve if possible. Anyone know of any purpose made bits? Before I search...

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                            Just found out an old pump and removed the oil out union, it’s a simple press fit. It DOES have a ball bearing and spring jobbie in it, the end of the spring had gathered a ‘plug’ of micro-lint, which was stopping the valve working properly. I’m guessing that the one that’s on the bike will be the same. I’ll soon see when I take off the pump for the umpteenth time!...

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                              Just found out an old pump and removed the oil out union, it’s a simple press fit. It DOES have a ball bearing and spring jobbie in it, the end of the spring had gathered a ‘plug’ of micro-lint, which was stopping the valve working properly. I’m guessing that the one that’s on the bike will be the same. I’ll soon see when I take off the pump for the umpteenth time!...

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                              @SpookDog
                              can you put pictures of that blocked valve up here?

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                                @SpookDog
                                can you put pictures of that blocked valve up here?

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                                @chris
                                Sorry bud, I’ve already cleaned it up and put it back on the bike. It’s better now though, hasn’t rose at all...
                                I don’t know how to post pics with my iPhone either...

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                                  @chris
                                  Sorry bud, I’ve already cleaned it up and put it back on the bike. It’s better now though, hasn’t rose at all...
                                  I don’t know how to post pics with my iPhone either...

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                                  This just fell out my pipe! I’m glad I fixed it now!!...
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                                  All oil. All nasty!...

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                                    This just fell out my pipe! I’m glad I fixed it now!!...
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                                    All oil. All nasty!...

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                                    @SpookDog yummy

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                                      This just fell out my pipe! I’m glad I fixed it now!!...
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                                      All oil. All nasty!...

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                                      @SpookDog
                                      why was that oil in your exhaust, is it from your oiltank reservoir that was gravity feeding?
                                      that valve youve mentioned, how does it work, i mean how it is supposed to open or close

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                                        @SpookDog
                                        why was that oil in your exhaust, is it from your oiltank reservoir that was gravity feeding?
                                        that valve youve mentioned, how does it work, i mean how it is supposed to open or close

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                                        @chris

                                        It’s built into the silver union that delivers 2/ through the small diameter pipe to the inlet manifold.
                                        It’s a small spring and ball bearing...

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                                        And yes, it was gravity feeding. The rest is in the thread...

                                        Just one of the obscure & amazing things that weigh down on my attempts to create something meaningful in my life ☠️

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                                          @chris

                                          It’s built into the silver union that delivers 2/ through the small diameter pipe to the inlet manifold.
                                          It’s a small spring and ball bearing...

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                                          And yes, it was gravity feeding. The rest is in the thread...

                                          Just one of the obscure & amazing things that weigh down on my attempts to create something meaningful in my life ☠️

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                                          @SpookDog

                                          If you take it apart, use a drop or so of bearing/thread lock to secure it properly...

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