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  • T theportingmaster

    @SpookDog Your previous barrel must of been worn out and lack
    of power if think 3MB00P has more power as so mildly ported, the
    P stamped parts had slighty more power as had different carbs etc. The P stamped head is standard 3MB head just without the casting numbers on top..

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    SpookDog
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    @theportingmaster

    I wouldn’t mean to say power per se, it’s more the way it comes on. It just feels like a totally different animal. It reminds me of an old rd125lc I rode years ago. My old barrel had loads of usable torque in comparison...

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      @theportingmaster

      I wouldn’t mean to say power per se, it’s more the way it comes on. It just feels like a totally different animal. It reminds me of an old rd125lc I rode years ago. My old barrel had loads of usable torque in comparison...

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      Calum
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      @SpookDog I felt it shifted the power which would be useful tucked in behind a wind shield and what not, but my DT is a town/city rider and doesn't go faster than ~60mph 🤣

      When I got it 12 years ago the clocks read out 85MPH. So all those "mods" I've done have made it a lot slower lol.

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        @SpookDog I felt it shifted the power which would be useful tucked in behind a wind shield and what not, but my DT is a town/city rider and doesn't go faster than ~60mph 🤣

        When I got it 12 years ago the clocks read out 85MPH. So all those "mods" I've done have made it a lot slower lol.

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        Head gasket blown again! Second time in two months. I’ve had problems with 3 different barrel and head combinations. The only common factor is me and the antifreeze/coolant I’ve used. I’m gonna guess it’s not the coolant 🙄

        Weird thing is every single time it’s failed on the top/head side of the gasket. Between the head and gasket surfaces. Never between the gasket and the barrel...

        This is the first time this combo has failed (3mbP head & barrel) and I never removed the studs to clean the top of the barrel (because I had a stud shear off on my last barrel) It’ll be interesting to see which side of the gasket failed this time...

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          Head gasket blown again! Second time in two months. I’ve had problems with 3 different barrel and head combinations. The only common factor is me and the antifreeze/coolant I’ve used. I’m gonna guess it’s not the coolant 🙄

          Weird thing is every single time it’s failed on the top/head side of the gasket. Between the head and gasket surfaces. Never between the gasket and the barrel...

          This is the first time this combo has failed (3mbP head & barrel) and I never removed the studs to clean the top of the barrel (because I had a stud shear off on my last barrel) It’ll be interesting to see which side of the gasket failed this time...

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          Calum
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          @SpookDog And it's definitely the head that's causing the problem and not some other underlying problem.

          For example, I am merely hypothesising here, what if the coolant expansion spring on the radiator cap has failed and the coolant is expanding, adding pressure to the coolant system and eventually so much so that the only place the coolant can go is through the gasket?

          This is really not a hard job and I simply can't see you doing anything wrong here (other than putting the gasket on the wrong way up).

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            @SpookDog And it's definitely the head that's causing the problem and not some other underlying problem.

            For example, I am merely hypothesising here, what if the coolant expansion spring on the radiator cap has failed and the coolant is expanding, adding pressure to the coolant system and eventually so much so that the only place the coolant can go is through the gasket?

            This is really not a hard job and I simply can't see you doing anything wrong here (other than putting the gasket on the wrong way up).

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            DTR+NSR
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            Agree with Calum, you really can't be this un lucky with head gaskets. My own dt had head gasket symptoms, pushing water out the expansion bottle. Turned out to be a slight bit of damage on the radiator filler. Where the cap seal, seals against. It was just allowing water past as the coolant expanded as it warmed up. Also coolant will boil at a lower temperature, if isn't under pressure. I say it's well worth looking at this from a different angle.

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              Agree with Calum, you really can't be this un lucky with head gaskets. My own dt had head gasket symptoms, pushing water out the expansion bottle. Turned out to be a slight bit of damage on the radiator filler. Where the cap seal, seals against. It was just allowing water past as the coolant expanded as it warmed up. Also coolant will boil at a lower temperature, if isn't under pressure. I say it's well worth looking at this from a different angle.

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              biohazard13
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              Hi. I cant seem to access my account...
              I can't get to the change password option either...
              Is this a problem with me or the site?...

              SpookDog...

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                Hi. I cant seem to access my account...
                I can't get to the change password option either...
                Is this a problem with me or the site?...

                SpookDog...

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                @biohazard13 I've been having major problems with site not working for a few days so maybe

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                  @biohazard13 I've been having major problems with site not working for a few days so maybe

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                  Calum
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                  @declan It's not not working, the IP address changed so I had to reconfigure the DNS entry, then that takes time to replicate across DNS and then your computer has to refresh the entry etc.

                  That said, I only changed the DNS entry last night. Was still up though, if you knew where to find it.

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                    @declan It's not not working, the IP address changed so I had to reconfigure the DNS entry, then that takes time to replicate across DNS and then your computer has to refresh the entry etc.

                    That said, I only changed the DNS entry last night. Was still up though, if you knew where to find it.

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                    @Calum Hey bud, why cant i use my spookdog account? I cant do a password retreval. Can you sign me in so i can use my spookdog account on my iphone?...

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                      @Calum Hey bud, why cant i use my spookdog account? I cant do a password retreval. Can you sign me in so i can use my spookdog account on my iphone?...

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                      Calum
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                      @biohazard13 I sent you a private message a few weeks ago. Check your private messages.

                      Always Originate, Never Pirate!

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                        @Calum Hey bud, why cant i use my spookdog account? I cant do a password retreval. Can you sign me in so i can use my spookdog account on my iphone?...

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                        SpookDog
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                        Hey peeps! Nice to be back and posting in my own skin!...

                        Since the 3mbP barrel & head failed its head gasket I put the old 3mb back on. I had to get a Heli coil put in as one of the head studs snapped off level with the barrel. Unfortunately the bike shop put it in wonky 🙄 I had to drill out the corresponding hole in the head to allow it to seat properly over all 5 studs.

                        I should of opened them all up by 1mm!

                        Unfortunately it was just a bit too tight against the other studs. So over a short time, heat expansion must of lifted the back of the head ‘up onto the rear studs’ so, you guessed it! Another head gasket blown 🤪 3 weeks this time...

                        OMFL! ☠️

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                          Hey peeps! Nice to be back and posting in my own skin!...

                          Since the 3mbP barrel & head failed its head gasket I put the old 3mb back on. I had to get a Heli coil put in as one of the head studs snapped off level with the barrel. Unfortunately the bike shop put it in wonky 🙄 I had to drill out the corresponding hole in the head to allow it to seat properly over all 5 studs.

                          I should of opened them all up by 1mm!

                          Unfortunately it was just a bit too tight against the other studs. So over a short time, heat expansion must of lifted the back of the head ‘up onto the rear studs’ so, you guessed it! Another head gasket blown 🤪 3 weeks this time...

                          OMFL! ☠️

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                          Does everyone who has changed their own gasket fit them with no sealant added? I am actually thinking of buying a spray sealant to use with the new gasket I use next...

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                            Does everyone who has changed their own gasket fit them with no sealant added? I am actually thinking of buying a spray sealant to use with the new gasket I use next...

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                            mhbikesnbits
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                            @SpookDog I haven’t added any sealer on mine shouldn’t really need it as it should be a compression squeeze, but I’ll see how I get on when it’s running probably a stupid question asking have you put the gasket the correct way up

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                              @SpookDog I haven’t added any sealer on mine shouldn’t really need it as it should be a compression squeeze, but I’ll see how I get on when it’s running probably a stupid question asking have you put the gasket the correct way up

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                              @mhbikesnbits

                              Not a stupid question. Yep, gasket is UP, not 9U 🙂

                              I actually thought that the coolant I was using was softening the black gasket coating and allowing leaks, but I’ve tried just pure H2o with no change...

                              Only difference was that this time the gasket failed at the bottom, barrel side. It has always failed at the top between the gasket and the head before...

                              I’m gonna try the studs hand tight this time as well. Just so everything can expand & contract evenly...

                              I’m also thinking of contacting an excorcist ☠️

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                                @mhbikesnbits

                                Not a stupid question. Yep, gasket is UP, not 9U 🙂

                                I actually thought that the coolant I was using was softening the black gasket coating and allowing leaks, but I’ve tried just pure H2o with no change...

                                Only difference was that this time the gasket failed at the bottom, barrel side. It has always failed at the top between the gasket and the head before...

                                I’m gonna try the studs hand tight this time as well. Just so everything can expand & contract evenly...

                                I’m also thinking of contacting an excorcist ☠️

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                                @SpookDog This is fucking mental!!!!!!

                                Seriously what the hell is going on? Where abouts do you live? I'm half tempted to drive round and do this myself! There is no way you should be having this much trouble with the head gasket. How have you not given up by now!

                                I don't understand 😮

                                There HAS to be some underlying issue here we aren't seeing.

                                Maybe there is a crack in the bottom end, where the coolant chambers meet. This would cause pressure into the engine and potentially blow a gasket. My only problem with that theory is that it'll induce black two stroke into the coolant system.

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                                  @SpookDog This is fucking mental!!!!!!

                                  Seriously what the hell is going on? Where abouts do you live? I'm half tempted to drive round and do this myself! There is no way you should be having this much trouble with the head gasket. How have you not given up by now!

                                  I don't understand 😮

                                  There HAS to be some underlying issue here we aren't seeing.

                                  Maybe there is a crack in the bottom end, where the coolant chambers meet. This would cause pressure into the engine and potentially blow a gasket. My only problem with that theory is that it'll induce black two stroke into the coolant system.

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                                  @Calum

                                  Bud, it is so beyond being real, you couldn’t make this shit up! I’m just so stubborn I won’t give up. I just wish I could believe I’m doing something obviously wrong. Or afford to take it to a shop and let them keep mending it if it goes again!...

                                  Next time I’ll take detailed pics and post all that I’m doing. It’s just so fuckin exhausting!! 😐 I’ll get there eventually tho...

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                                    @Calum

                                    Bud, it is so beyond being real, you couldn’t make this shit up! I’m just so stubborn I won’t give up. I just wish I could believe I’m doing something obviously wrong. Or afford to take it to a shop and let them keep mending it if it goes again!...

                                    Next time I’ll take detailed pics and post all that I’m doing. It’s just so fuckin exhausting!! 😐 I’ll get there eventually tho...

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                                    @SpookDog I'd seriously be contemplating that engine. Something must be amiss.

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                                      @SpookDog I'd seriously be contemplating that engine. Something must be amiss.

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                                      @Calum

                                      Yeah. I just can’t imagine how the bottom end could affect the head seal. I thought it might be the budget price eBay Athena gaskets at one point. Changed to Vertex with same results. I’ve tried 3 different barrel & head combinations. I’m the only constant factor 😟

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                                        @Calum

                                        Yeah. I just can’t imagine how the bottom end could affect the head seal. I thought it might be the budget price eBay Athena gaskets at one point. Changed to Vertex with same results. I’ve tried 3 different barrel & head combinations. I’m the only constant factor 😟

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                                        @SpookDog That's why I'm thinking it's a bottom end issue. As it's not the head/barrel so the only thing left is either, you or the bottom end. Given how simple the job is, I'm betting on the bottom end.

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                                          @SpookDog That's why I'm thinking it's a bottom end issue. As it's not the head/barrel so the only thing left is either, you or the bottom end. Given how simple the job is, I'm betting on the bottom end.

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                                          @Calum

                                          I even thought it was something to do with the engine mounts, especially the head one putting too much stress on it...

                                          Then again I reach for just about anything to make sense of the ‘situation’ 🙂

                                          I put it back together with a new Vertex gasket and yet another, different, 3mb barrel, piston & 3mb head (£50, thanks eBay!!) Hoping this time it’ll last longer than 3~6 weeks! 🤞 ...

                                          Did a 70 mile trip to shake it down with no hiccups 😜 ...

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